(10-10-2018 02:42 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  I'm kind of baffled that A-State fans are jumping off the ship so fas. A play here or there away from three straight Sun Belt titles last season and still have a lot to play for this season.

How has this been building up despite the wins. Please enlighten this outsider.

A lot of fans have had issues with the coaching for a while now, it's just that we've been able to get by due to the conference generally being bad. With App, GS(U), and Troy now all fielding competent squads, things are getting harder, and we have a habit of dropping a game we shouldn't (South Alabama last year).

This was also supposed to be the bestest team ever, with the Godkings of wide receivers and quarterbacks coming in to curb stomp everybody on our way to a top 25 ranking and possible access bowl slot. I thought the hype was well overblown, but the fact that there was all that hype for this team and it's falling so far short is a bad sign.

If this is supposed to be the best team ever, then where do we go from here? We can't win when we're at our best, so what more could Anderson give us? He's had time to right the ship when it comes to depleted recruiting from the coaching turnover. These are his guys now, and this is what we're capable of. It's a far cry from the goal of being the top G5 school in the country.

(10-10-2018 02:42 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  I'm kind of baffled that A-State fans are jumping off the ship so fas. A play here or there away from three straight Sun Belt titles last season and still have a lot to play for this season.

How has this been building up despite the wins. Please enlighten this outsider.

I'm baffled that you find it baffling. Really, Sun Belt fans, would you not find it difficult to support and be excited by the product stAte is putting on the field if it were your team? Surely you all have felt or experienced the same at some point.

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(10-10-2018 02:42 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  I'm kind of baffled that A-State fans are jumping off the ship so fas. A play here or there away from three straight Sun Belt titles last season and still have a lot to play for this season.

How has this been building up despite the wins. Please enlighten this outsider.

Been building up since 2016 when we lost to Utah State and UCA back to back. We lost a lot of support with the UCA game, but won some back with wins over Troy and UCF.

Problems increased in 2017 as Anderson spent pre season talking about the Access Bowl as a reasonable goal. He set crazy high expectations, and then promptly turned around and got blown out by SMU. Losing to South cratered a ton of support, but everything changed after that. We had a chance to win a title...a chance for Anderson to do the one thing that had kept supporters quiet, win league titles...and we laid an egg against Troy...at home. The Blake spent postgame that day blaming the players despite the fact that it was clear most of this was on the coaching staff. Support cratered. Fans started dumping tickets, and it became large enough that Mohajir was very concerned that we'd send a terrible turn out to Montgomery

And then we laid another egg. Perhaps the worst possible thing Blake Anderson could ever do. He lost...To Middle Freaking Tennessee. The last time we had played Middle, we won 45-0. Over half our coaching staff currently had coached at Middle. And we lost...to Middle. And not a good MTSU team.

No matter what...there was little chance we'd ever rebound from that. In the offseason, ticket sales began to decline. Perhaps worse, Mohajir had trouble selling out all those pretty new End Zone seats he spent 30 million to build. It didn't get any better this year either. The Georgia Southern game left most of us emotionally drained. We were tired, angry, and then had to listen to our head football coach blame the fans on Twitter and challenge people to come say negative things to his face

The worst sign that he's lost the fans? The new End Zone Seats...are going unused. People spent thousands of dollars on those seats...and they were mad enough at the program, they chose to still not come.

I don't know if there is anything Blake can do anymore to salvage supporters. Maybe win out. Beat The East champ in the title game and win the bowl. That seems unlikely.

(10-10-2018 11:51 AM)The Howling Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 02:42 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  I'm kind of baffled that A-State fans are jumping off the ship so fas. A play here or there away from three straight Sun Belt titles last season and still have a lot to play for this season.

How has this been building up despite the wins. Please enlighten this outsider.

I'm baffled that you find it baffling. Really, Sun Belt fans, would you not find it difficult to support and be excited by the product stAte is putting on the field if it were your team? Surely you all have felt or experienced the same at some point.

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Tough call. App benefits from stability. But take UGA for example. Letting go of Richt and bringing in Smart was the right move. Both great coaches but the hype gives with the change. ASU is good and has a solid program. The complaining is unjustified. CrApp is just better this year. The good news is that the new Fun Belt is pushing forward. Get on the train or risk irrelevancy. That's great news for all of us. The reverse would be a sad situation. Other conferences are noticing. Trust me.

(10-10-2018 12:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 02:42 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  I'm kind of baffled that A-State fans are jumping off the ship so fas. A play here or there away from three straight Sun Belt titles last season and still have a lot to play for this season.

How has this been building up despite the wins. Please enlighten this outsider.

Been building up since 2016 when we lost to Utah State and UCA back to back. We lost a lot of support with the UCA game, but won some back with wins over Troy and UCF.

Problems increased in 2017 as Anderson spent pre season talking about the Access Bowl as a reasonable goal. He set crazy high expectations, and then promptly turned around and got blown out by SMU. Losing to South cratered a ton of support, but everything changed after that. We had a chance to win a title...a chance for Anderson to do the one thing that had kept supporters quiet, win league titles...and we laid an egg against Troy...at home. The Blake spent postgame that day blaming the players despite the fact that it was clear most of this was on the coaching staff. Support cratered. Fans started dumping tickets, and it became large enough that Mohajir was very concerned that we'd send a terrible turn out to Montgomery

And then we laid another egg. Perhaps the worst possible thing Blake Anderson could ever do. He lost...To Middle Freaking Tennessee. The last time we had played Middle, we won 45-0. Over half our coaching staff currently had coached at Middle. And we lost...to Middle. And not a good MTSU team.

No matter what...there was little chance we'd ever rebound from that. In the offseason, ticket sales began to decline. Perhaps worse, Mohajir had trouble selling out all those pretty new End Zone seats he spent 30 million to build. It didn't get any better this year either. The Georgia Southern game left most of us emotionally drained. We were tired, angry, and then had to listen to our head football coach blame the fans on Twitter and challenge people to come say negative things to his face

The worst sign that he's lost the fans? The new End Zone Seats...are going unused. People spent thousands of dollars on those seats...and they were mad enough at the program, they chose to still not come.

I don't know if there is anything Blake can do anymore to salvage supporters. Maybe win out. Beat The East champ in the title game and win the bowl. That seems unlikely.

So what happens if you go 8-4 (5-3) win the west and then by luck or just better game plan you get to the championship game and win. stAte is the undisputed conference champion at 9-4. How would Anderson be perceived at that point?

Blake Ball is hard to watch and or support.
You'd be hard pressed to find as many untalented coaches gathered at one school.
Priorities are bass ackwards. Faith, family, & football doesn't translate to winning.
His philosophy makes it impossible for him to fire the people that need it.
He's cocky but doesn't win enough to get away with his actions.
He isn't responsible for anything that goes wrong.
He's the king of excuses.

OVERALL A TERRIBLE HIRE......

He's killing A-State football.

When I see Ark St. players interaction with other teams I don't think of faith and family.

(10-10-2018 01:38 PM)Senatobia Wrote:  Blake Ball is hard to watch and or support.
You'd be hard pressed to find as many untalented coaches gathered at one school.
Priorities are bass ackwards. Faith, family, & football doesn't translate to winning.
His philosophy makes it impossible for him to fire the people that need it.
He's cocky but doesn't win enough to get away with his actions.
He isn't responsible for anything that goes wrong.
He's the king of excuses.

OVERALL A TERRIBLE HIRE......

He's killing A-State football.

You described GS's last coaching staff and HC, except ours was even worse and more incompetent. Hopefully you still have money from the buyout of the previous HC's to find a better coach and staff. good luck, we can empathize.

I am struck by the parallels I see between the feelings of stAte's fan base at this point and those of the Cajuns just before Hud was cut loose.

I mean that many coaching changes the odd were you were due for a dud. He has not been Summers bad but you can tell at this point he is not hitting that next gear. I expect ArkSt to win out pretty easily outside of maybe Coastal and going to be hard to fire him. Going 9-3 in the regular season making championship game and a bowl game is not horrible. The only way I see him getting fired is losing another Belt game then being curbed stomped in the championship game and the bowl game.

Transfers can put lipstick on a pig. The pig being overall operations. They keep you relevant just makes it more difficult to be great. Recruiting becomes more difficult and the team feels more like a farm team than a brotherhood. This would my only complaint. Otherwise there's no there there and the fan base is underrating the competition. This ain't the old Belt.

(10-10-2018 04:03 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Transfers can put lipstick on a pig. The pig being overall operations. They keep you relevant just makes it more difficult to be great. Recruiting becomes more difficult and the team feels more like a farm team than a brotherhood. This would my only complaint. Otherwise there's no there there and the fan base is underrating the competition. This ain't the old Belt.

Must you use an analogy with a pig?

(10-10-2018 02:42 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  I'm kind of baffled that A-State fans are jumping off the ship so fas. A play here or there away from three straight Sun Belt titles last season and still have a lot to play for this season.

How has this been building up despite the wins. Please enlighten this outsider.

I agree. stAte looks amazing compared to the sinking ship that is TXST. The grass is always greener I suppose.

(10-09-2018 10:14 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(10-09-2018 09:41 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  From an outsider viewing a 28-9 App lead in the 3rd quarter...

stAte is undisciplined jucos with a dream of playing in the NFL as their cause. They are always a cocky sorta team without a team first mentality. They are not the team to win the big game but just to out talent lesser teams in the conference on a regular basis. Coaching hasnt really been there which is why teams with good game plans tend to pull away from the red wolves.

Taking away my Toledo bias, I do watch my brother conference the funbelt frequently... How far off am I?

I’ve always wondered why a school would recruit sooo many jucos. Marshall does (used to?) that a ton also.

Not too many. Doc’s problem is that he has a tendency to recruit 5 star asshats (not saying that they are 5 star athletes, but merely 5 star asshats). But then he’ll come across a true gem: A five-star JUCO asshat athlete and will pounce all over him.

(10-10-2018 01:58 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 01:38 PM)Senatobia Wrote:  Blake Ball is hard to watch and or support.
You'd be hard pressed to find as many untalented coaches gathered at one school.
Priorities are bass ackwards. Faith, family, & football doesn't translate to winning.
His philosophy makes it impossible for him to fire the people that need it.
He's cocky but doesn't win enough to get away with his actions.
He isn't responsible for anything that goes wrong.
He's the king of excuses.

OVERALL A TERRIBLE HIRE......

He's killing A-State football.

You described GS's last coaching staff and HC, except ours was even worse and more incompetent. Hopefully you still have money from the buyout of the previous HC's to find a better coach and staff. good luck, we can empathize.

Andersson's buyout on our end is only 300K this year. Probably the most affordable it will ever be.

Guys, maybe the coaching was bad last night, but Justice looked like hammered hot garbage.

(10-10-2018 05:07 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Guys, maybe the coaching was bad last night, but Justice looked like hammered hot garbage.

Phil Steele named Hansen the number 7 QB in the country in his preseason magazine. You'd have to be a fool to question his ability. He'll be on an NFL roster next year even if he's not a starter.

I heard the announcer for the ASU-ASU game say Blake Anderson decided to simplify the playbook and game plan for App. If so, that was a mistake. Hansen isn't spme green freshman QB....he's a senior with lots of starts that has managed to win a lot of games with a limited running game.

In a lot of ways, Anderson reminds me of John Grass at Jacksonville State...they take tons of transfers and completely destroy most everyone in their conference but when they get up against top-25 teams in the playoffs they fold like a cheap suit...they are a talented FCS team that's less than the sum of their parts.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say Anderson needs to be fired, but he's underachieving. And I think anyone who thinks Ark State should beat the doors off of GS and App State every year isn't being reasonable, but obviously those aren't the only games he has problems.

Phil Steele named Hansen the number 7 QB in the country in his preseason magazine. You'd have to be a fool to question his ability. He'll be on an NFL roster next year even if he's not a starter.

I won’t question his ability, but I will question his footwork which is horrible. Not sure which NFL team would want that.

I question his heart.

(10-10-2018 04:30 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 04:03 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Transfers can put lipstick on a pig. The pig being overall operations. They keep you relevant just makes it more difficult to be great. Recruiting becomes more difficult and the team feels more like a farm team than a brotherhood. This would my only complaint. Otherwise there's no there there and the fan base is underrating the competition. This ain't the old Belt.

Must you use an analogy with a pig?

Piglet? The piglet is an incompetent coach. I traded the bad analogy to be nice to the coach and used overall operations. I'll do better. Bad choice.

Phil Steele named Hansen the number 7 QB in the country in his preseason magazine. You'd have to be a fool to question his ability. He'll be on an NFL roster next year even if he's not a starter.

Quote:I won’t question his ability, but I will question his footwork which is horrible. Not sure which NFL team would want that.

We must have watched a different game last night. He is no NFL prospect. Question his ability.