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(10-10-2018 01:53 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  When I see Ark St. players interaction with other teams I don't think of faith and family.

It’s neo faith and family.

Seriously one of the funniest things I’ve read on a message board.
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Hansen won’t sniff an NFL roster. Most overrated QB I’ve seen in the Sun Belt. Which really bodes another fallacy. If he didn’t have “Oklahoma transfer” in his bio, he would be a JAG. We as a conference need to do away with this ridiculous “insert x school” transfer monikor. It’s his third year at Arky, but “Oklahoma transfer” will be said multiple times on a broadcast per game.
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(10-10-2018 03:16 AM)GS99-00 Wrote:  Is Blake Anderson, their Tyson Summers, just at a slower decay?



Very much so but more painful due to taking multi seasons to reach the termination stage. Blake ball is a life threatening disease for the program and none of us expect any immediate action to stop the decline. Believe we can/will absorb more defeats this season. There is not a game left that we can't lose.
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(10-10-2018 05:28 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-10-2018 05:07 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Guys, maybe the coaching was bad last night, but Justice looked like hammered hot garbage.

Phil Steele named Hansen the number 7 QB in the country in his preseason magazine. You'd have to be a fool to question his ability. He'll be on an NFL roster next year even if he's not a starter.

I heard the announcer for the ASU-ASU game say Blake Anderson decided to simplify the playbook and game plan for App. If so, that was a mistake. Hansen isn't spme green freshman QB....he's a senior with lots of starts that has managed to win a lot of games with a limited running game.

In a lot of ways, Anderson reminds me of John Grass at Jacksonville State...they take tons of transfers and completely destroy most everyone in their conference but when they get up against top-25 teams in the playoffs they fold like a cheap suit...they are a talented FCS team that's less than the sum of their parts.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say Anderson needs to be fired, but he's underachieving. And I think anyone who thinks Ark State should beat the doors off of GS and App State every year isn't being reasonable, but obviously those aren't the only games he has problems.

I don't care what some writer ranked him. And his coach didn't throw interceptions. He looked terrible. Perhaps he is a great quarterback, but he looked like shite that game.
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(10-11-2018 02:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Hansen won’t sniff an NFL roster. Most overrated QB I’ve seen in the Sun Belt. Which really bodes another fallacy. If he didn’t have “Oklahoma transfer” in his bio, he would be a JAG. We as a conference need to do away with this ridiculous “insert x school” transfer monikor. It’s his third year at Arky, but “Oklahoma transfer” will be said multiple times on a broadcast per game.

Right...because Oklahoma recruits JAGs at QB and because everything else he's done at QB is erased by the only 2 games you've probably seen him play.

He must've won the job over a UDFA QB like Chad Voytik because Anderson just likes him better as well.
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(10-11-2018 12:28 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 02:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Hansen won’t sniff an NFL roster. Most overrated QB I’ve seen in the Sun Belt. Which really bodes another fallacy. If he didn’t have “Oklahoma transfer” in his bio, he would be a JAG. We as a conference need to do away with this ridiculous “insert x school” transfer monikor. It’s his third year at Arky, but “Oklahoma transfer” will be said multiple times on a broadcast per game.

Right...because Oklahoma recruits JAGs at QB and because everything else he's done at QB is erased by the only 2 games you've probably seen him play.

He must've won the job over a UDFA QB like Chad Voytik because Anderson just likes him better as well.

Story on Hansen is that he didn’t win the qb job at first because coaches thought he had no emotion or fire. Which is funny because that’s pretty much the book on his head coach as well.

Hansen isn’t capable of leading an nfl locker room
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Funny how folks on a message board know more about a kids future than the NFL scouts. I guess w wait and see. I think he’s not going to make it because he’s never been developed. Coaching matters.
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No doubt Hansen has the physical tools to atleast make an NFL roster, but agree if he had been better coached, the odds would be better for him making a roster
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(10-11-2018 07:07 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  Funny how folks on a message board know more about a kids future than the NFL scouts. I guess w wait and see. I think he’s not going to make it because he’s never been developed. Coaching matters.

I just don't know if he has the temperament to play in the NFL. Most of the starting QB's are clear leaders in their locker rooms. Does anyone really think Hansen is the leader in ours?
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(10-11-2018 07:07 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  Funny how folks on a message board know more about a kids future than the NFL scouts. I guess w wait and see. I think he’s not going to make it because he’s never been developed. Coaching matters.

Exactly. Hanson was the 4th rated dual purpose QB in the country coming out of high school. You see how much he has improved under our QB coach.
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(10-10-2018 02:42 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  I'm kind of baffled that A-State fans are jumping off the ship so fas. A play here or there away from three straight Sun Belt titles last season and still have a lot to play for this season.

How has this been building up despite the wins. Please enlighten this outsider.

2016 lose first four games. Toledo and Auburn, no shock. Utah State out-gained the Aggies and set a school record for penalties in a game, negative side of turnover margin. Next week out-gain FCS Central Arkansas negative side of turnover margin. Ditto at Louisiana. Three losses where the offense moved the ball everywhere but the end zone and poor ball security sunk the team. 8-5 squad could have done better.

2017 Nebraska, USA, Troy, MTSU, same song. Move the ball over the place but can't score the most points (object of the game), negative turnover margin. 7-5 squad that could have done better.

2018. End up in tighter games against UNLV and Tulsa after early success. Georgia Southern out-gain end up on the negative side of turnover margin.

31 games, 18-13 record, 8 losses where ball security and/or penalties sinks the team along with bad play inside the 30.

In the past 8 seasons the worst two season in offensive possessions to scoring possessions (ie eliminating defensive scores and special team scores from possessions) have been 2016 and 2018. At the halfway point Hansen's efficiency rating is the worst in his time at AState.

Here is an example I used.

A play that AState has nearly discarded from the playbook the past few years has been the jet sweep. Against App we ran a jet sweep to modest success. A few plays later AState fakes the jet and runs right into the heart of the defense for a no gain.

The "idea" was run the jet, App will react when they see it again, that will pull LB's out of the middle of the formation and open up the run. No. That doesn't happen when the opposing team has only seen it one or two times on film and one time in the game. Running a play that depends on the defense biting that you are doing something else requires doing that something else several times with success and triggering in the defense the desire to not get burnt by that something again. One frickin play doesn't do that.

Guys like Freeze, Malzahn and Harsin would have a play they'd run over and over and over then around the third quarter they'd show that play and instead run something designed to take advantage of the defense reacting.

The pick on our side of the field just before half. AState needs a yard. OK if you are Satterfield you are weighing a handoff, QB keep, or short pass. The RB goes in motion to empty the backfield, a formation 4 times out of 5 we throw a quick slant left on. Well hell Satterfield says that made **** easier. Hansen is late throwing the ball and nearly is a pick six.

Dumb play call plus + bad execution.

AState is currently rated 95 in ESPN FPI. To find an AState team rated 95 or worse, you have to go all the way back to 2007, our last season using the Indians nickname.
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Well if the Sunbelt West has shown us anything it's that you've got time to right the ship. Don't think you're in danger of being supplanted anytime soon.
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(10-10-2018 02:42 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  I'm kind of baffled that A-State fans are jumping off the ship so fas. A play here or there away from three straight Sun Belt titles last season and still have a lot to play for this season.

How has this been building up despite the wins. Please enlighten this outsider.
It really started showing itself two years ago with the loss to FCS UCA....it's just a culture that Blake has instilled in trying to be buddies with the players instead of being hard on them at times whether that be in practices or games. Neither he nor his staff works in the office on Sundays. He himself has stated that he doesn't give halftime speeches, just says a few things then lets the seniors handle it. Not enough hands on tough love.
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(10-11-2018 02:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Hansen won’t sniff an NFL roster. Most overrated QB I’ve seen in the Sun Belt. Which really bodes another fallacy. If he didn’t have “Oklahoma transfer” in his bio, he would be a JAG. We as a conference need to do away with this ridiculous “insert x school” transfer monikor. It’s his third year at Arky, but “Oklahoma transfer” will be said multiple times on a broadcast per game.

Lmao. Salty.
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(10-14-2018 05:23 AM)RedWolfington Wrote:  
(10-11-2018 02:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Hansen won’t sniff an NFL roster. Most overrated QB I’ve seen in the Sun Belt. Which really bodes another fallacy. If he didn’t have “Oklahoma transfer” in his bio, he would be a JAG. We as a conference need to do away with this ridiculous “insert x school” transfer monikor. It’s his third year at Arky, but “Oklahoma transfer” will be said multiple times on a broadcast per game.

Lmao. Salty.


Good post. I agree with all your comments including his no sniff from the NFL, and being very overrated. The transfer bit is much overplayed.
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