http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...l-proposal

Lol

(08-22-2018 06:31 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...l-proposal

Lol

I suppose it is true...

At this point, the Longhorns need to play the Aggies more than the Aggies need to play the Longhorns.

They need to schedule a series in 2028-2029 and go from there. All this bickering and back and forth when they both know both schools are already booked is ridiculous.

(08-23-2018 07:31 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  They need to schedule a series in 2028-2029 and go from there. All this bickering and back and forth when they both know both schools are already booked is ridiculous.

+1

Who cares who needs who more - the GAME needs these teams to play each other!

Agreed. This game needs to be an annual series.

What I want to know is this: where does this put A&M should the Longhorns decide to try join the SEC?

All SEC schools, including the West, agreed to play at least one ooc P5 opponent per season. A few do play two sometimes. Texas and Texas A&M need to end the public posturing, and work out a few future games for the time-being. It profits them both to renew and sustain this rivalry, even if they can't work it out immediately for every year.

(08-23-2018 10:20 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  What I want to know is this: where does this put A&M should the Longhorns decide to try join the SEC?

I honestly don't think they'd be against it.

In an ideal world, they would probably prefer A&M be the only SEC school in Texas, but UT brings a great deal of economic value and the networks will probably push for it.

That and it makes playing the rivalry game so much easier. They can charge more for season ticket packages if UT comes to College Station every other year.

(08-23-2018 12:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 10:20 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  What I want to know is this: where does this put A&M should the Longhorns decide to try join the SEC?

I honestly don't think they'd be against it.

In an ideal world, they would probably prefer A&M be the only SEC school in Texas, but UT brings a great deal of economic value and the networks will probably push for it.

That and it makes playing the rivalry game so much easier. They can charge more for season ticket packages if UT comes to College Station every other year.

I totally agree. And quite frankly what better cover could these two massive egos have to reinstate a game that neither claims they have to play, when both know it is in their own best interest to do so, than to have an outside entity like the SEC essentially force them back into it by taking Texas into the fold. I might add it's also a great thing to lay at ESPN's feet should the SEC leadership simply say the network made us an offer we couldn't refuse with regard to taking Texas.

That way Texas doesn't appear to knuckle under, A&M doesn't appear to give in, and 28 million people in the State of Texas get an annual game they loved back.

(08-23-2018 03:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 10:20 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  What I want to know is this: where does this put A&M should the Longhorns decide to try join the SEC?

I honestly don't think they'd be against it.

In an ideal world, they would probably prefer A&M be the only SEC school in Texas, but UT brings a great deal of economic value and the networks will probably push for it.

That and it makes playing the rivalry game so much easier. They can charge more for season ticket packages if UT comes to College Station every other year.

I totally agree. And quite frankly what better cover could these two massive egos have to reinstate a game that neither claims they have to play, when both know it is in their own best interest to do so, than to have an outside entity like the SEC essentially force them back into it by taking Texas into the fold. I might add it's also a great thing to lay at ESPN's feet should the SEC leadership simply say the network made us an offer we couldn't refuse with regard to taking Texas.

That way Texas doesn't appear to knuckle under, A&M doesn't appear to give in, and 28 million people in the State of Texas get an annual game they loved back.

Arkansas only agrees to this if we get the chance to whoop both their butts yearly.

Facts:

UT needs this game more than we do and came begging for it back and we told them too bad, go sleep in the bed you made.

We don't care if CFB "wants it back" there's hundreds of other rivalry games for you to watch

No A&M president who wants to keep their job will vote yes to letting UT into the SEC because as soon as they did they'd be fired. It's that simple.

(08-23-2018 10:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Facts:

UT needs this game more than we do and came begging for it back and we told them too bad, go sleep in the bed you made.

We don't care if CFB "wants it back" there's hundreds of other rivalry games for you to watch

No A&M president who wants to keep their job will vote yes to letting UT into the SEC because as soon as they did they'd be fired. It's that simple.

A&M will need a new president because Tech and UT are joining the SEC and you will like it. TCU might be in trouble but true A&M grads need to get ready for the Red Raider/Horn invasion of the SEC.

(08-23-2018 10:48 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 10:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Facts:

UT needs this game more than we do and came begging for it back and we told them too bad, go sleep in the bed you made.

We don't care if CFB "wants it back" there's hundreds of other rivalry games for you to watch

No A&M president who wants to keep their job will vote yes to letting UT into the SEC because as soon as they did they'd be fired. It's that simple.

A&M will need a new president because Tech and UT are joining the SEC and you will like it. TCU might be in trouble but true A&M grads need to get ready for the Red Raider/Horn invasion of the SEC.

Did Texas object when A&M left and make them take a little brother- nope

A&M will support Texas leaving if they ever choose to

(08-23-2018 10:56 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 10:48 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 10:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Facts:

UT needs this game more than we do and came begging for it back and we told them too bad, go sleep in the bed you made.

We don't care if CFB "wants it back" there's hundreds of other rivalry games for you to watch

No A&M president who wants to keep their job will vote yes to letting UT into the SEC because as soon as they did they'd be fired. It's that simple.

A&M will need a new president because Tech and UT are joining the SEC and you will like it. TCU might be in trouble but true A&M grads need to get ready for the Red Raider/Horn invasion of the SEC.

Did Texas object when A&M left and make them take a little brother- nope

A&M will support Texas leaving if they ever choose to

Did UT object? Yes.

Did they make them take a little brother? That question doesn't make sense. The TX Legislature could wield influence because they own the purse strings, but UT had no say in the matter. Even if they did have a say, they wouldn't have wanted another TX school to go to the SEC for several reasons.

I do believe A&M would support a UT move into the SEC even if a fair share of Aggie fans would raise hell over it. It's an economic question and A&M's position is only strengthened by UT's inclusion.

(08-23-2018 10:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Facts:

UT needs this game more than we do and came begging for it back and we told them too bad, go sleep in the bed you made.

We don't care if CFB "wants it back" there's hundreds of other rivalry games for you to watch

No A&M president who wants to keep their job will vote yes to letting UT into the SEC because as soon as they did they'd be fired. It's that simple.

I fully get bitter rivalries.

Alabama and Auburn didn't play for about 40 years despite sharing not one, but two conferences during that span.

But that was also a very different time. Economics are a much bigger driver now. Even without that reality, Bama and Auburn eventually started playing each other again.

(08-23-2018 11:35 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 10:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Facts:

UT needs this game more than we do and came begging for it back and we told them too bad, go sleep in the bed you made.

We don't care if CFB "wants it back" there's hundreds of other rivalry games for you to watch

No A&M president who wants to keep their job will vote yes to letting UT into the SEC because as soon as they did they'd be fired. It's that simple.

I fully get bitter rivalries.

Alabama and Auburn didn't play for about 40 years despite sharing not one, but two conferences during that span.

But that was also a very different time. Economics are a much bigger driver now. Even without that reality, Bama and Auburn eventually started playing each other again.

And the conference keeps all of that lovely revenue if the game is in house. I could even foresee the Lone Star Trophy being awarded the overall winner of the UT/A&M, UT/TTU, and TTU/A&M games.

That's 3 opportunities during 9 weeks of the season to triple dip the 28 million viewers of the state of Texas.

It boosts the SECN south of the border in 22 Mexican cities, it gives the SEC ad leverage in Texas which would generate quite a nice sum for all, and it gives ESPN all they wanted. And from a revenue perspective realignment for the SEC is over because with UT there's nobody in the ACC that could add to our bottom line.

Arkansas, L.S.U., Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

That's an East and West division strong and deep enough to each merit their own channel on the SECN. Charlotte provides the Eastern portion and the LHN becomes the Western portion.

(08-23-2018 10:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Facts:

UT needs this game more than we do and came begging for it back and we told them too bad, go sleep in the bed you made.

We don't care if CFB "wants it back" there's hundreds of other rivalry games for you to watch

No A&M president who wants to keep their job will vote yes to letting UT into the SEC because as soon as they did they'd be fired. It's that simple.

In fairness to Chris Del Conte & Tom Herman, neither of them “made” UT’s bed. That honor goes to Deloss Dodds & whoever was the president of UT back then. Why should Del Conte have to suffer for something that Deloss Dodds did??

(08-24-2018 01:06 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 10:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Facts:

UT needs this game more than we do and came begging for it back and we told them too bad, go sleep in the bed you made.

We don't care if CFB "wants it back" there's hundreds of other rivalry games for you to watch

No A&M president who wants to keep their job will vote yes to letting UT into the SEC because as soon as they did they'd be fired. It's that simple.

In fairness to Chris Del Conte & Tom Herman, neither of them “made” UT’s bed. That honor goes to Deloss Dodds & whoever was the president of UT back then. Why should Del Conte have to suffer for something that Deloss Dodds did??

Fair or not, taking that job came with the baggage. I don’t not like Texas but a lesson in humility would do them good. Perhaps it’s happening now?

Look I'm not saying the conference can't vote on who it wants.

If push comes to shove then A&M can easily be outvoted by the other 13 members. We might even agree to an "abstention" to avoid a no vote for the media

But no A&M president will ever vote yes for UT.

Those that think I'm kidding about an A&M president getting fired for doing so don't understand us but might learn from the VERY short tenure of Dr Elsa Murano who found herself out of a job quickly after angering the alumni and BOR by trying to meddle in the athletic department. It would happen again in a heartbeat.

(08-24-2018 11:08 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Look I'm not saying the conference can't vote on who it wants.

If push comes to shove then A&M can easily be outvoted by the other 13 members. We might even agree to an "abstention" to avoid a no vote for the media

But no A&M president will ever vote yes for UT.

Those that think I'm kidding about an A&M president getting fired for doing so don't understand us but might learn from the VERY short tenure of Dr Elsa Murano who found herself out of a job quickly after angering the alumni and BOR by trying to meddle in the athletic department. It would happen again in a heartbeat.

Abstaining would be good enough for everyone if it comes to that. Nobody expects A&M to knuckle under, they just expect them to act in the best interest of the bottom line. In other words there wouldn't be a single SEC president that would expect A&M to do anything other than cash a bigger check.