https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...t-program/

Just wondering if they interviewed coaches before or after the news at tOSU broke......

Also seems to me there were a few "questions" about Michigan State as well.

I suppose it depends on what your definition of "by the book and clean" is.

Doesn’t Northwestern have top graduation rates, APRs, admission standards and no violations/scandals/arrests under Fitzgerald?

Dantonio and Urban Meyer are ahead of Pat Fitzgerald?

Probably the team that loses the most. I find it impossible to believe there's a remotely clean program. Maybe one that graduates its players like Rice or Northwestern but clean? Even Rice had a scandal under Hatfield.

Vanderbilt. Stanford. Northwestern. Rice

Chris Peterson: Boise and Washington.

Any other G5 school.

BIG West

My observation over the years.

Most programs are clean(ish). They will push to the limits of how they understand the rules. If they aren't permitted to meet with a player during a period but "bumping into" the player is OK they will tell the high school coach they can't meet Joe Smith while they are on campus because its not permitted but if they bump into the player it is permissible and the smart high school coach understands that Joe Smith should have some reason to happen to need to go see their high school coach while the college coach is there. Or maybe the college doesn't have room to sign Joe Smith in the 2018 class but they want him. So Joe is told if he wants to come to a game he can have two tickets and tour the place and is told that if he were to enroll that he would have a scholarship. So Joe enrolls in college and is awarded a scholarship for the Fall of 2018 but since he wasn't "recruited" as defined by the NCAA he is a blue shirt and has a scholarship in 2018 but counts against the 2019 class.

May not fit the spirit of the rules but good luck nailing the school for anything.

Then there are two other types.
One doesn't care what the rules are, the ends justify the means.
The other is worse. Unlike the ones who cheat and accept the fact that they are willing to cheat in order to be successful you have a subset that has a truly warped moral compass. The rulebook is irrelevant because they have created their own morality. There are actually things they won't do because they deem them wrong but if in their worldview they make the decision that they are right they will do it their way convinced they are the one with decency and morality on their side. From what I was told by people around him, John Jenkins was like that (example quote, John never did anything he thought was wrong, if he thought it was right and the rule book said it wasn't allowed, the rule book was wrong). From what I've heard, Dave Bliss probably fit that category. Hugh Freeze would arguably be in that category.

But seriously most coaches really do try to follow the rules.

No question -- KU's last few. Our record proves it.

Gonna be pretty Biased and say Joe Moglia, the guy has nothing to gain or lose. Doesn't need to win to get paid (makes more money outside of football), and isn't really looking to move up the totem pole, as he is near the end of his run as a head coach. He also calls out other coaches for their lack of preparing kids for after football. Got into a beef with Nick Saban in the past.

(08-17-2018 09:13 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...t-program/

Just wondering if they interviewed coaches before or after the news at tOSU broke......

Also seems to me there were a few "questions" about Michigan State as well.

I suppose it depends on what your definition of "by the book and clean" is.

From all i have read and understand, Mark Dantonio is one of the most above board coaches around. Yes he coaches young men with raging hormones. Yes that causes them to get in trouble some times. I think Mark has handled his players incidents by the book.

Many allow/urge "boosters" to provide the "extra" financial incentives. Decades ago, that got SMU with severe penalties. A lot of schools rely on such, but it can be a high risk game. Where it gets really bad, is when a booster goes rouge, and not even the coaches or athletic department have control of the situation. It is not uncommon at places that lose institutional control.

(08-19-2018 03:04 PM)Sparty84 Wrote:  

(08-17-2018 09:13 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...t-program/

Just wondering if they interviewed coaches before or after the news at tOSU broke......

Also seems to me there were a few "questions" about Michigan State as well.

I suppose it depends on what your definition of "by the book and clean" is.

From all i have read and understand, Mark Dantonio is one of the most above board coaches around. Yes he coaches young men with raging hormones. Yes that causes them to get in trouble some times. I think Mark has handled his players incidents by the book.

Not all Big Ten fans would agree with this assesmnet.

6 wins in two years, I sure hope Scotty Mo is running a clean program in Greenville!

Louisville’s. No question.

Nick Saban and the entire organization "machine" at UAT.

Paul Johnson, Jeff Monken, Ken Niumatalolo, Troy Calhoun & Craig Bohl