Indiana Bones
1st String
Posts: 2,326
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 94
I Root For: ECU
Location: Greenville, NC
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 08:41 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:
Few teams sign all their targets and ECU has made progress by making the final three list for a highly sought recruit. The future looks promising.
Losing out hurt but the ECU board is flooded with hope that former WF 7-0 commit is coming our way. He decommitted just one hr after Sy's announcement and was originally high on ECU. is it just a coincident? Another wait & see.
|
|
05-14-2019 08:54 AM |
|
Tiger1983
BBA
Posts: 35,183
Joined: Apr 2006
Reputation: 2033
I Root For: Tigers - GTG!
Location: The enemy’s lair
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 08:54 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:41 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:
Few teams sign all their targets and ECU has made progress by making the final three list for a highly sought recruit. The future looks promising.
Losing out hurt but the ECU board is flooded with hope that former WF 7-0 commit is coming our way. He decommitted just one hr after Sy's announcement and was originally high on ECU. is it just a coincident? Another wait & see.
It is odd (in a good way). Who is the player?
|
|
05-14-2019 08:58 AM |
|
HuskyU
Big East Overlord
Posts: 22,802
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 1182
I Root For: UCONN
Location: The Big East
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
ECU will have to settle for 6th instead of 4th next season.
|
|
05-14-2019 09:03 AM |
|
Indiana Bones
1st String
Posts: 2,326
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 94
I Root For: ECU
Location: Greenville, NC
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 08:58 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:54 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:41 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:
Few teams sign all their targets and ECU has made progress by making the final three list for a highly sought recruit. The future looks promising.
Losing out hurt but the ECU board is flooded with hope that former WF 7-0 commit is coming our way. He decommitted just one hr after Sy's announcement and was originally high on ECU. is it just a coincident? Another wait & see.
It is odd (in a good way). Who is the player?
Charles Coleman
https://247sports.com/player/charles-coleman-46039758/
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2019 09:24 AM by Indiana Bones.)
|
|
05-14-2019 09:22 AM |
|
PirateJP
All American
Posts: 2,658
Joined: Feb 2014
Reputation: 163
I Root For: ECU; Charlotte
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 09:03 AM)HuskyU Wrote: ECU will have to settle for 6th instead of 4th next season.
You jest but I’ll take NIT in year two.
|
|
05-14-2019 09:27 AM |
|
stxrunner
All American
Posts: 4,263
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 189
I Root For: Cincinnati
Location: Chicago, IL
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 08:51 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:47 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:39 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote: Tulane should be much improved...
UCONN moving up in the standings.
Who will fall the farthest from last year?
Right now that has to be Cincy.
Part of that is because they are the only team I see that will undoubtedly be worse than last year. But they were near the top sooo
Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
Maybe it's b/c right now, your roster is unsettled, lol.
(05-14-2019 08:53 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:47 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:39 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote: Tulane should be much improved...
UCONN moving up in the standings.
Who will fall the farthest from last year?
Right now that has to be Cincy.
Part of that is because they are the only team I see that will undoubtedly be worse than last year. But they were near the top sooo
Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
It's never good to be mid may, with as many open spots as Cincy has, and not really being mentioned in final lists for major recruits. There is definitely cause for concern.
Just responding to both, since my argument would be the same.
1) Our roster is not THAT dissimilar from last year. We have lost Jenifer, Broome, Brooks and Fredericks, the latter of which hardly has seen the floor. Logan Johnson is in the transfer portal, but his mom has stated he still might return (they have a significant family issue which is why he's considering going back home). Logan also didn't see the floor much last year. Cumberland is the big IF, but he is looking more and more likely to come back, as he struggled at the G League combine in Day 1. That would give us 3 of our 5 starters back, with PG being the big unsettled hurdle.
2) I'm not sure why people keep bringing up '19 recruits. We were never going to be able to fill holes with those guys this late in the game, and we aren't going to reach down just to fill spots. We are going after some pretty decent transfer options, such as Rasir Bolton and what I've heard is a transfer out of Oregon. We've also got Detroit news reporters saying Jaevin Cumberland is very interested if his cousin Jarron comes back (Beilein leaving UM opened the door I think too). Those guys are pretty major transfer targets. There will be more too through the summer. This is a new day in UC basketball. No more Cronin refusing to make the team better with transfers and going for diamond in the rough only recruits whose biggest skill is that they play hard.
So, I'm obviously biased, but I just don't see us finishing in the bottom half, and there is upside for not much of a drop off at all if things break right.
|
|
05-14-2019 10:11 AM |
|
Stickboy46
Heisman
Posts: 8,915
Joined: Dec 2016
Reputation: 406
I Root For: Wichita State
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 10:11 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:51 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:47 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:39 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote: Tulane should be much improved...
UCONN moving up in the standings.
Who will fall the farthest from last year?
Right now that has to be Cincy.
Part of that is because they are the only team I see that will undoubtedly be worse than last year. But they were near the top sooo
Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
Maybe it's b/c right now, your roster is unsettled, lol.
(05-14-2019 08:53 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:47 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:39 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote: Tulane should be much improved...
UCONN moving up in the standings.
Who will fall the farthest from last year?
Right now that has to be Cincy.
Part of that is because they are the only team I see that will undoubtedly be worse than last year. But they were near the top sooo
Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
It's never good to be mid may, with as many open spots as Cincy has, and not really being mentioned in final lists for major recruits. There is definitely cause for concern.
Just responding to both, since my argument would be the same.
1) Our roster is not THAT dissimilar from last year. We have lost Jenifer, Broome, Brooks and Fredericks, the latter of which hardly has seen the floor. Logan Johnson is in the transfer portal, but his mom has stated he still might return (they have a significant family issue which is why he's considering going back home). Logan also didn't see the floor much last year. Cumberland is the big IF, but he is looking more and more likely to come back, as he struggled at the G League combine in Day 1. That would give us 3 of our 5 starters back, with PG being the big unsettled hurdle.
2) I'm not sure why people keep bringing up '19 recruits. We were never going to be able to fill holes with those guys this late in the game, and we aren't going to reach down just to fill spots. We are going after some pretty decent transfer options, such as Rasir Bolton and what I've heard is a transfer out of Oregon. We've also got Detroit news reporters saying Jaevin Cumberland is very interested if his cousin Jarron comes back (Beilein leaving UM opened the door I think too). Those guys are pretty major transfer targets. There will be more too through the summer. This is a new day in UC basketball. No more Cronin refusing to make the team better with transfers and going for diamond in the rough only recruits whose biggest skill is that they play hard.
So, I'm obviously biased, but I just don't see us finishing in the bottom half, and there is upside for not much of a drop off at all if things break right.
For the bolded part, whether you were going to be able to or not .. those spots still aren't filled. Doesn't matter the reason. There will be a drop off, I can't see any convoluted way to think otherwise unless you land some miraculous recruits.
To be clear though, I never said bottom half. If Cumberland comes back a fall to 5th or 6th is possible but the floor.
Now if Cumberland doesn't come back, it's fair game to say bottom half is reasonable.
|
|
05-14-2019 10:25 AM |
|
bearcat65
All American
Posts: 4,690
Joined: Jan 2004
Reputation: 356
I Root For:
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 10:25 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:11 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:51 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:47 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: Right now that has to be Cincy.
Part of that is because they are the only team I see that will undoubtedly be worse than last year. But they were near the top sooo
Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
Maybe it's b/c right now, your roster is unsettled, lol.
(05-14-2019 08:53 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:47 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: Right now that has to be Cincy.
Part of that is because they are the only team I see that will undoubtedly be worse than last year. But they were near the top sooo
Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
It's never good to be mid may, with as many open spots as Cincy has, and not really being mentioned in final lists for major recruits. There is definitely cause for concern.
Just responding to both, since my argument would be the same.
1) Our roster is not THAT dissimilar from last year. We have lost Jenifer, Broome, Brooks and Fredericks, the latter of which hardly has seen the floor. Logan Johnson is in the transfer portal, but his mom has stated he still might return (they have a significant family issue which is why he's considering going back home). Logan also didn't see the floor much last year. Cumberland is the big IF, but he is looking more and more likely to come back, as he struggled at the G League combine in Day 1. That would give us 3 of our 5 starters back, with PG being the big unsettled hurdle.
2) I'm not sure why people keep bringing up '19 recruits. We were never going to be able to fill holes with those guys this late in the game, and we aren't going to reach down just to fill spots. We are going after some pretty decent transfer options, such as Rasir Bolton and what I've heard is a transfer out of Oregon. We've also got Detroit news reporters saying Jaevin Cumberland is very interested if his cousin Jarron comes back (Beilein leaving UM opened the door I think too). Those guys are pretty major transfer targets. There will be more too through the summer. This is a new day in UC basketball. No more Cronin refusing to make the team better with transfers and going for diamond in the rough only recruits whose biggest skill is that they play hard.
So, I'm obviously biased, but I just don't see us finishing in the bottom half, and there is upside for not much of a drop off at all if things break right.
For the bolded part, whether you were going to be able to or not .. those spots still aren't filled. Doesn't matter the reason. There will be a drop off, I can't see any convoluted way to think otherwise unless you land some miraculous recruits.
To be clear though, I never said bottom half. If Cumberland comes back a fall to 5th or 6th is possible but the floor.
Now if Cumberland doesn't come back, it's fair game to say bottom half is reasonable.
UC lost Kyle Washington, Gary Clark, and Jacob Evans yet still managed to finish 2nd in conference and win the conference tournament.
This season they lose Jenifer and Broome to graduation, Brooks, Fredericks, and possibly Logan Johnson to transfer. None of these are the caliber of the aforementioned 3.
If Cumberland comes back and Brannen is the coach I think he is we may start out rough but as everyone settles into a new system and their roles in that system I think UC will be okay. Probably not good enough to win the conference but probably top 5.
If Cumberland doesn't come back it's anyone's guess as to where they finish.
|
|
05-14-2019 01:18 PM |
|
bearcat65
All American
Posts: 4,690
Joined: Jan 2004
Reputation: 356
I Root For:
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 10:25 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:11 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:51 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:47 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: Right now that has to be Cincy.
Part of that is because they are the only team I see that will undoubtedly be worse than last year. But they were near the top sooo
Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
Maybe it's b/c right now, your roster is unsettled, lol.
(05-14-2019 08:53 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-13-2019 08:47 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: Right now that has to be Cincy.
Part of that is because they are the only team I see that will undoubtedly be worse than last year. But they were near the top sooo
Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
It's never good to be mid may, with as many open spots as Cincy has, and not really being mentioned in final lists for major recruits. There is definitely cause for concern.
Just responding to both, since my argument would be the same.
1) Our roster is not THAT dissimilar from last year. We have lost Jenifer, Broome, Brooks and Fredericks, the latter of which hardly has seen the floor. Logan Johnson is in the transfer portal, but his mom has stated he still might return (they have a significant family issue which is why he's considering going back home). Logan also didn't see the floor much last year. Cumberland is the big IF, but he is looking more and more likely to come back, as he struggled at the G League combine in Day 1. That would give us 3 of our 5 starters back, with PG being the big unsettled hurdle.
2) I'm not sure why people keep bringing up '19 recruits. We were never going to be able to fill holes with those guys this late in the game, and we aren't going to reach down just to fill spots. We are going after some pretty decent transfer options, such as Rasir Bolton and what I've heard is a transfer out of Oregon. We've also got Detroit news reporters saying Jaevin Cumberland is very interested if his cousin Jarron comes back (Beilein leaving UM opened the door I think too). Those guys are pretty major transfer targets. There will be more too through the summer. This is a new day in UC basketball. No more Cronin refusing to make the team better with transfers and going for diamond in the rough only recruits whose biggest skill is that they play hard.
So, I'm obviously biased, but I just don't see us finishing in the bottom half, and there is upside for not much of a drop off at all if things break right.
For the bolded part, whether you were going to be able to or not .. those spots still aren't filled. Doesn't matter the reason. There will be a drop off, I can't see any convoluted way to think otherwise unless you land some miraculous recruits.
To be clear though, I never said bottom half. If Cumberland comes back a fall to 5th or 6th is possible but the floor.
Now if Cumberland doesn't come back, it's fair game to say bottom half is reasonable.
UC lost Kyle Washington, Gary Clark, and Jacob Evans yet still managed to finish 2nd in conference and win the conference tournament.
This season they lose Jenifer and Broome to graduation, Brooks, Fredericks, and possibly Logan Johnson to transfer. None of these are the caliber of the aforementioned 3.
If Cumberland comes back and Brannen is the coach I think he is we may start out rough but as everyone settles into a new system and their roles in that system I think UC will be okay. Probably not good enough to win the conference but probably top 5.
If Cumberland doesn't come back it's anyone's guess as to where they finish.
|
|
05-14-2019 01:18 PM |
|
Stickboy46
Heisman
Posts: 8,915
Joined: Dec 2016
Reputation: 406
I Root For: Wichita State
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 01:18 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:25 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:11 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:51 AM)TripleA Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
Maybe it's b/c right now, your roster is unsettled, lol.
(05-14-2019 08:53 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:37 AM)stxrunner Wrote: Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.
I have no idea why people think we are going to finish in the bottom half of the conference, especially before our roster is even settled.
It's never good to be mid may, with as many open spots as Cincy has, and not really being mentioned in final lists for major recruits. There is definitely cause for concern.
Just responding to both, since my argument would be the same.
1) Our roster is not THAT dissimilar from last year. We have lost Jenifer, Broome, Brooks and Fredericks, the latter of which hardly has seen the floor. Logan Johnson is in the transfer portal, but his mom has stated he still might return (they have a significant family issue which is why he's considering going back home). Logan also didn't see the floor much last year. Cumberland is the big IF, but he is looking more and more likely to come back, as he struggled at the G League combine in Day 1. That would give us 3 of our 5 starters back, with PG being the big unsettled hurdle.
2) I'm not sure why people keep bringing up '19 recruits. We were never going to be able to fill holes with those guys this late in the game, and we aren't going to reach down just to fill spots. We are going after some pretty decent transfer options, such as Rasir Bolton and what I've heard is a transfer out of Oregon. We've also got Detroit news reporters saying Jaevin Cumberland is very interested if his cousin Jarron comes back (Beilein leaving UM opened the door I think too). Those guys are pretty major transfer targets. There will be more too through the summer. This is a new day in UC basketball. No more Cronin refusing to make the team better with transfers and going for diamond in the rough only recruits whose biggest skill is that they play hard.
So, I'm obviously biased, but I just don't see us finishing in the bottom half, and there is upside for not much of a drop off at all if things break right.
For the bolded part, whether you were going to be able to or not .. those spots still aren't filled. Doesn't matter the reason. There will be a drop off, I can't see any convoluted way to think otherwise unless you land some miraculous recruits.
To be clear though, I never said bottom half. If Cumberland comes back a fall to 5th or 6th is possible but the floor.
Now if Cumberland doesn't come back, it's fair game to say bottom half is reasonable.
UC lost Kyle Washington, Gary Clark, and Jacob Evans yet still managed to finish 2nd in conference and win the conference tournament.
This season they lose Jenifer and Broome to graduation, Brooks, Fredericks, and possibly Logan Johnson to transfer. None of these are the caliber of the aforementioned 3.
If Cumberland comes back and Brannen is the coach I think he is we may start out rough but as everyone settles into a new system and their roles in that system I think UC will be okay. Probably not good enough to win the conference but probably top 5.
If Cumberland doesn't come back it's anyone's guess as to where they finish.
Bolded part is irrelevant since you lost your coach this year which is bigger than any set of players.
|
|
05-14-2019 02:03 PM |
|
bearcat65
All American
Posts: 4,690
Joined: Jan 2004
Reputation: 356
I Root For:
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 02:03 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 01:18 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:25 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:11 AM)stxrunner Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:51 AM)TripleA Wrote: Maybe it's b/c right now, your roster is unsettled, lol.
(05-14-2019 08:53 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: It's never good to be mid may, with as many open spots as Cincy has, and not really being mentioned in final lists for major recruits. There is definitely cause for concern.
Just responding to both, since my argument would be the same.
1) Our roster is not THAT dissimilar from last year. We have lost Jenifer, Broome, Brooks and Fredericks, the latter of which hardly has seen the floor. Logan Johnson is in the transfer portal, but his mom has stated he still might return (they have a significant family issue which is why he's considering going back home). Logan also didn't see the floor much last year. Cumberland is the big IF, but he is looking more and more likely to come back, as he struggled at the G League combine in Day 1. That would give us 3 of our 5 starters back, with PG being the big unsettled hurdle.
2) I'm not sure why people keep bringing up '19 recruits. We were never going to be able to fill holes with those guys this late in the game, and we aren't going to reach down just to fill spots. We are going after some pretty decent transfer options, such as Rasir Bolton and what I've heard is a transfer out of Oregon. We've also got Detroit news reporters saying Jaevin Cumberland is very interested if his cousin Jarron comes back (Beilein leaving UM opened the door I think too). Those guys are pretty major transfer targets. There will be more too through the summer. This is a new day in UC basketball. No more Cronin refusing to make the team better with transfers and going for diamond in the rough only recruits whose biggest skill is that they play hard.
So, I'm obviously biased, but I just don't see us finishing in the bottom half, and there is upside for not much of a drop off at all if things break right.
For the bolded part, whether you were going to be able to or not .. those spots still aren't filled. Doesn't matter the reason. There will be a drop off, I can't see any convoluted way to think otherwise unless you land some miraculous recruits.
To be clear though, I never said bottom half. If Cumberland comes back a fall to 5th or 6th is possible but the floor.
Now if Cumberland doesn't come back, it's fair game to say bottom half is reasonable.
UC lost Kyle Washington, Gary Clark, and Jacob Evans yet still managed to finish 2nd in conference and win the conference tournament.
This season they lose Jenifer and Broome to graduation, Brooks, Fredericks, and possibly Logan Johnson to transfer. None of these are the caliber of the aforementioned 3.
If Cumberland comes back and Brannen is the coach I think he is we may start out rough but as everyone settles into a new system and their roles in that system I think UC will be okay. Probably not good enough to win the conference but probably top 5.
If Cumberland doesn't come back it's anyone's guess as to where they finish.
Bolded part is irrelevant since you lost your coach this year which is bigger than any set of players.
Only if one knows the new coach is inferior to the departed one. In this case that question won't be answered for a few months.
|
|
05-14-2019 02:19 PM |
|
Stickboy46
Heisman
Posts: 8,915
Joined: Dec 2016
Reputation: 406
I Root For: Wichita State
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 02:19 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: (05-14-2019 02:03 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 01:18 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:25 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:11 AM)stxrunner Wrote: Just responding to both, since my argument would be the same.
1) Our roster is not THAT dissimilar from last year. We have lost Jenifer, Broome, Brooks and Fredericks, the latter of which hardly has seen the floor. Logan Johnson is in the transfer portal, but his mom has stated he still might return (they have a significant family issue which is why he's considering going back home). Logan also didn't see the floor much last year. Cumberland is the big IF, but he is looking more and more likely to come back, as he struggled at the G League combine in Day 1. That would give us 3 of our 5 starters back, with PG being the big unsettled hurdle.
2) I'm not sure why people keep bringing up '19 recruits. We were never going to be able to fill holes with those guys this late in the game, and we aren't going to reach down just to fill spots. We are going after some pretty decent transfer options, such as Rasir Bolton and what I've heard is a transfer out of Oregon. We've also got Detroit news reporters saying Jaevin Cumberland is very interested if his cousin Jarron comes back (Beilein leaving UM opened the door I think too). Those guys are pretty major transfer targets. There will be more too through the summer. This is a new day in UC basketball. No more Cronin refusing to make the team better with transfers and going for diamond in the rough only recruits whose biggest skill is that they play hard.
So, I'm obviously biased, but I just don't see us finishing in the bottom half, and there is upside for not much of a drop off at all if things break right.
For the bolded part, whether you were going to be able to or not .. those spots still aren't filled. Doesn't matter the reason. There will be a drop off, I can't see any convoluted way to think otherwise unless you land some miraculous recruits.
To be clear though, I never said bottom half. If Cumberland comes back a fall to 5th or 6th is possible but the floor.
Now if Cumberland doesn't come back, it's fair game to say bottom half is reasonable.
UC lost Kyle Washington, Gary Clark, and Jacob Evans yet still managed to finish 2nd in conference and win the conference tournament.
This season they lose Jenifer and Broome to graduation, Brooks, Fredericks, and possibly Logan Johnson to transfer. None of these are the caliber of the aforementioned 3.
If Cumberland comes back and Brannen is the coach I think he is we may start out rough but as everyone settles into a new system and their roles in that system I think UC will be okay. Probably not good enough to win the conference but probably top 5.
If Cumberland doesn't come back it's anyone's guess as to where they finish.
Bolded part is irrelevant since you lost your coach this year which is bigger than any set of players.
Only if one knows the new coach is inferior to the departed one. In this case that question won't be answered for a few months.
But it does open it up for a bigger drop than normal.
|
|
05-14-2019 02:26 PM |
|
Wudizzle
1st String
Posts: 1,086
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 128
I Root For: Wichita State
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 02:19 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: (05-14-2019 02:03 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 01:18 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:25 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:11 AM)stxrunner Wrote: Just responding to both, since my argument would be the same.
1) Our roster is not THAT dissimilar from last year. We have lost Jenifer, Broome, Brooks and Fredericks, the latter of which hardly has seen the floor. Logan Johnson is in the transfer portal, but his mom has stated he still might return (they have a significant family issue which is why he's considering going back home). Logan also didn't see the floor much last year. Cumberland is the big IF, but he is looking more and more likely to come back, as he struggled at the G League combine in Day 1. That would give us 3 of our 5 starters back, with PG being the big unsettled hurdle.
2) I'm not sure why people keep bringing up '19 recruits. We were never going to be able to fill holes with those guys this late in the game, and we aren't going to reach down just to fill spots. We are going after some pretty decent transfer options, such as Rasir Bolton and what I've heard is a transfer out of Oregon. We've also got Detroit news reporters saying Jaevin Cumberland is very interested if his cousin Jarron comes back (Beilein leaving UM opened the door I think too). Those guys are pretty major transfer targets. There will be more too through the summer. This is a new day in UC basketball. No more Cronin refusing to make the team better with transfers and going for diamond in the rough only recruits whose biggest skill is that they play hard.
So, I'm obviously biased, but I just don't see us finishing in the bottom half, and there is upside for not much of a drop off at all if things break right.
For the bolded part, whether you were going to be able to or not .. those spots still aren't filled. Doesn't matter the reason. There will be a drop off, I can't see any convoluted way to think otherwise unless you land some miraculous recruits.
To be clear though, I never said bottom half. If Cumberland comes back a fall to 5th or 6th is possible but the floor.
Now if Cumberland doesn't come back, it's fair game to say bottom half is reasonable.
UC lost Kyle Washington, Gary Clark, and Jacob Evans yet still managed to finish 2nd in conference and win the conference tournament.
This season they lose Jenifer and Broome to graduation, Brooks, Fredericks, and possibly Logan Johnson to transfer. None of these are the caliber of the aforementioned 3.
If Cumberland comes back and Brannen is the coach I think he is we may start out rough but as everyone settles into a new system and their roles in that system I think UC will be okay. Probably not good enough to win the conference but probably top 5.
If Cumberland doesn't come back it's anyone's guess as to where they finish.
Bolded part is irrelevant since you lost your coach this year which is bigger than any set of players.
Only if one knows the new coach is inferior to the departed one. In this case that question won't be answered for a few months.
Brannen could finish 10th next season and still end up eventually doing more at UC and proving to be a better coach. That's not a shot at Cronin, either. Or he could ride Cumberland to 2nd next year and then crater the program after that. It takes time to evaluate when so much is changing.
|
|
05-14-2019 02:27 PM |
|
bearcat65
All American
Posts: 4,690
Joined: Jan 2004
Reputation: 356
I Root For:
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 02:27 PM)Wudizzle Wrote: (05-14-2019 02:19 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: (05-14-2019 02:03 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote: (05-14-2019 01:18 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:25 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: For the bolded part, whether you were going to be able to or not .. those spots still aren't filled. Doesn't matter the reason. There will be a drop off, I can't see any convoluted way to think otherwise unless you land some miraculous recruits.
To be clear though, I never said bottom half. If Cumberland comes back a fall to 5th or 6th is possible but the floor.
Now if Cumberland doesn't come back, it's fair game to say bottom half is reasonable.
UC lost Kyle Washington, Gary Clark, and Jacob Evans yet still managed to finish 2nd in conference and win the conference tournament.
This season they lose Jenifer and Broome to graduation, Brooks, Fredericks, and possibly Logan Johnson to transfer. None of these are the caliber of the aforementioned 3.
If Cumberland comes back and Brannen is the coach I think he is we may start out rough but as everyone settles into a new system and their roles in that system I think UC will be okay. Probably not good enough to win the conference but probably top 5.
If Cumberland doesn't come back it's anyone's guess as to where they finish.
Bolded part is irrelevant since you lost your coach this year which is bigger than any set of players.
Only if one knows the new coach is inferior to the departed one. In this case that question won't be answered for a few months.
Brannen could finish 10th next season and still end up eventually doing more at UC and proving to be a better coach. That's not a shot at Cronin, either. Or he could ride Cumberland to 2nd next year and then crater the program after that. It takes time to evaluate when so much is changing.
Agreed. And don't worry about taking shots at Cronin on my account. I was glad to see him leave.
|
|
05-14-2019 02:58 PM |
|
Bearcats#1
Ad nauseam King
Posts: 45,310
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 1224
I Root For: Pony94
Location: In your head.
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
im glad that midget clown is gone.
The AD put together a really good performance based incentive package (esp weighed toward March performance BTW) and Mick turned it down. lol
AD Bohn: Mick we got a new package for you and if you perform in March you will make $3.1M in 2020.
Mick: Win...in March!? Im out...
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2019 10:11 PM by Bearcats#1.)
|
|
05-14-2019 10:09 PM |
|
Hurricane Drummer
All American
Posts: 4,784
Joined: Jul 2015
Reputation: 231
I Root For: Tulsa
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
TWO FLIPPIN HUNDRED
|
|
05-14-2019 10:29 PM |
|
Foreverandever
Heisman
Posts: 6,861
Joined: Aug 2018
Reputation: 443
I Root For: &
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 09:22 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:58 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:54 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:41 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:
Few teams sign all their targets and ECU has made progress by making the final three list for a highly sought recruit. The future looks promising.
Losing out hurt but the ECU board is flooded with hope that former WF 7-0 commit is coming our way. He decommitted just one hr after Sy's announcement and was originally high on ECU. is it just a coincident? Another wait & see.
It is odd (in a good way). Who is the player?
Charles Coleman
https://247sports.com/player/charles-coleman-46039758/
This guy is a perfect match for Gardner. I really thought he could give you all a solid front court core. With some of the guards swing men you have coming in you could really take some big steps forward next year and see the young guys you have make ECU basketball very respectable in years three and four of Dooley.
|
|
05-14-2019 10:39 PM |
|
StillJonesing
Hall of Famer
Posts: 15,042
Joined: May 2005
Reputation: 88
I Root For: ECU
Location:
|
RE: *** New and Improved AAC Basketball News Thread ***
(05-14-2019 10:39 PM)Foreverandever Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:22 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:58 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:54 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (05-14-2019 08:41 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:
Few teams sign all their targets and ECU has made progress by making the final three list for a highly sought recruit. The future looks promising.
Losing out hurt but the ECU board is flooded with hope that former WF 7-0 commit is coming our way. He decommitted just one hr after Sy's announcement and was originally high on ECU. is it just a coincident? Another wait & see.
It is odd (in a good way). Who is the player?
Charles Coleman
https://247sports.com/player/charles-coleman-46039758/
This guy is a perfect match for Gardner. I really thought he could give you all a solid front court core. With some of the guards swing men you have coming in you could really take some big steps forward next year and see the young guys you have make ECU basketball very respectable in years three and four of Dooley.
Based on his high light video he really likes to hang out at the 3 point line and shoot three's. That's exactly what we could use beside of Gardner the next 3 years. He wouldn't be a bad consolation for Sy especially longterm to know you have that guy that can space out to the 3 and also block some shots. Seems like we have a good shot at landing him.
(This post was last modified: 05-15-2019 08:52 AM by StillJonesing.)
|
|
05-15-2019 08:48 AM |
|