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RE: KAI TOEWS Jones Cup 2018
(07-30-2018 09:02 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I don't see Taylor running PG. He was our most consistent wing player last year, and didn't see anytime at the 1. Also, it makes no sense to bring in two PGs if you already had one on your roster who still has two years of eligibility. I see Toews being the starter with Gasden and Brown fighting for backup minutes. Taylor and Fornes will play the 2/3. Cylla and Cacok as the front court. C.B. has already stated his intention to play Cylla as a stretch 4 to allow Cacok to work on the block one on one more this year.

I don't think Cylla has the outside shot to "stretch" the defense, where Elmore does. As much as Toews looks good on paper, I could never pencil in a freshman at PG without seeing him on the court against D1 talent. We'll see.
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RE: KAI TOEWS Jones Cup 2018
(07-30-2018 01:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 09:02 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I don't see Taylor running PG. He was our most consistent wing player last year, and didn't see anytime at the 1. Also, it makes no sense to bring in two PGs if you already had one on your roster who still has two years of eligibility. I see Toews being the starter with Gasden and Brown fighting for backup minutes. Taylor and Fornes will play the 2/3. Cylla and Cacok as the front court. C.B. has already stated his intention to play Cylla as a stretch 4 to allow Cacok to work on the block one on one more this year.

As much as Toews looks good on paper, I could never pencil in a freshman at PG without seeing him on the court against D1 talent. We'll see.
I generally feel the same, but it's not common to have a freshman that has had the opportunity to look good against D1 level talent like he has. I guess i have more of an issue with him being third on the depth chart as i find that hard to believe.
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RE: KAI TOEWS Jones Cup 2018
(07-30-2018 01:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 09:02 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I don't see Taylor running PG. He was our most consistent wing player last year, and didn't see anytime at the 1. Also, it makes no sense to bring in two PGs if you already had one on your roster who still has two years of eligibility. I see Toews being the starter with Gasden and Brown fighting for backup minutes. Taylor and Fornes will play the 2/3. Cylla and Cacok as the front court. C.B. has already stated his intention to play Cylla as a stretch 4 to allow Cacok to work on the block one on one more this year.

I don't think Cylla has the outside shot to "stretch" the defense, where Elmore does. As much as Toews looks good on paper, I could never pencil in a freshman at PG without seeing him on the court against D1 talent. We'll see.

Understandable concern for Cylla. He definitely seems like more a slasher type player. I'm hesitant about Elmore just because I haven't seen much of him and he's coming off a pretty serious injury. Hard to not see Cylla starting, guy has had some monster games on the D1 level already and I can't see Taylor and Fornes losing their spot either.
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RE: KAI TOEWS Jones Cup 2018
(07-30-2018 03:26 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 01:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 09:02 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I don't see Taylor running PG. He was our most consistent wing player last year, and didn't see anytime at the 1. Also, it makes no sense to bring in two PGs if you already had one on your roster who still has two years of eligibility. I see Toews being the starter with Gasden and Brown fighting for backup minutes. Taylor and Fornes will play the 2/3. Cylla and Cacok as the front court. C.B. has already stated his intention to play Cylla as a stretch 4 to allow Cacok to work on the block one on one more this year.

I don't think Cylla has the outside shot to "stretch" the defense, where Elmore does. As much as Toews looks good on paper, I could never pencil in a freshman at PG without seeing him on the court against D1 talent. We'll see.

Understandable concern for Cylla. He definitely seems like more a slasher type player. I'm hesitant about Elmore just because I haven't seen much of him and he's coming off a pretty serious injury. Hard to not see Cylla starting, guy has had some monster games on the D1 level already and I can't see Taylor and Fornes losing their spot either.

I have Taylor, Fornes and Cylla starting in my projection.
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The starting rotation will likely start out with PG:Toews/Gadsden/Brown,WG/WF:Taylor/Estime/Gary and Fornes/Sims at the other spot, PF Cylla/Elmore/O'Connell and C -Cacok/Kalina. Sims, Elmore and/or Estime could also start and/or at least play nice minutes. If others step up things can change like O'Connell, Gary and Kalina.
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RE: KAI TOEWS Jones Cup 2018
(07-30-2018 05:28 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 03:26 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 01:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 09:02 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I don't see Taylor running PG. He was our most consistent wing player last year, and didn't see anytime at the 1. Also, it makes no sense to bring in two PGs if you already had one on your roster who still has two years of eligibility. I see Toews being the starter with Gasden and Brown fighting for backup minutes. Taylor and Fornes will play the 2/3. Cylla and Cacok as the front court. C.B. has already stated his intention to play Cylla as a stretch 4 to allow Cacok to work on the block one on one more this year.

I don't think Cylla has the outside shot to "stretch" the defense, where Elmore does. As much as Toews looks good on paper, I could never pencil in a freshman at PG without seeing him on the court against D1 talent. We'll see.

Understandable concern for Cylla. He definitely seems like more a slasher type player. I'm hesitant about Elmore just because I haven't seen much of him and he's coming off a pretty serious injury. Hard to not see Cylla starting, guy has had some monster games on the D1 level already and I can't see Taylor and Fornes losing their spot either.

I have Taylor, Fornes and Cylla starting in my projection.

I understand that, but I don't quite get your logic about Taylor being a PG. Yes experience is great, but that's not his position. I'd rather have a Freshman playing that has the skill set for that position than someone that's playing it out of position. PG is too critical of a position to just being throwing someone in there that has played off the ball for his whole college career. Also, whether Cylla plays 3 or 4 he's gonna have to make a jump shot. Might as well slide him to the 4. Toews, Taylor, Fornes, Cylla, Cacok could very well be the most athletic/versatile starting 5 in the CAA.
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I don' see Taylor at the 1 either. If he is our best option, it means we are going to flat out struggle to be .500 in conference. We need one or two of the newcomers ready to run point. I think both be getting a siginificant amount of minutes. If there is a significant drop off between either then it's going to be tough.
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