http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

#1. Arkansas State (Ranked 73rd nationally) $39.4 Million
#2. Texas State (75th Nationally) $38.4 Million
#3 Appalachian State (82nd) $35 Million
#4 Coastal Carolina (88) $33.7 million
#5 South Alabama (99) $30.6 Million
#6 Georgia State (101) $30.2
#7 Troy (102) $29.9 million
#8 Georgia Southern (105) $28.5 Million
#9 Louisiana (109) $28.3 Million
#10 ULM (164) $16.1 million
#11 UTA (180) $14 million
#12 Little Rock (195) $13 million

UTA and Little Rock spending a lot of money on football.....

(06-28-2018 03:20 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  UTA and Little Rock spending a lot of money on football.....

lol.

also, this report is for 2016-2017

% subsidized by student fees

1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees

1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Tex-Arlington...75.30%
3. Georgia State....74.18%
4. Troy....72.46%
5. Texas State....72.28%
6. South Alabama....67.33%
7. UA Little Rock ... 64.73%
8. App State....60.63%
9. Georgia Southern....57.96%
10. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
11. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

Fixed it.

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees

1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

ULM gets like 316k from student fees. How does this formula work? Wish we get most of budget covered by student fees.

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees + direct/indirect school funds + money from state
1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

didn't read the fine print. fixed it for ya.

(06-28-2018 03:59 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees + direct/indirect school funds + money from state
1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

didn't read the fine print. fixed it for ya.

Ok I just saw student fees. Lol
Man kinda of a bummer for me to see how much other schools get from student fees vs what we get .

(06-28-2018 03:57 PM)Golota76 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees

1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

ULM gets like 316k from student fees. How does this formula work? Wish we get most of budget covered by student fees.

formula used by USA Today
% of subsidized revenue= [(student fees + direct school funds + indirect school funds + state money allocated to your school's athletics)/Total Revenue] x 100

(06-28-2018 03:59 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees + direct/indirect school funds + money from state
1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

didn't read the fine print. fixed it for ya.

Right but the majority of that is student fees. Of the 22M that Georgia State allocated, 19.2M of it was student fees.

(06-28-2018 04:08 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:59 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees + direct/indirect school funds + money from state
1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

didn't read the fine print. fixed it for ya.

Right but the majority of that is student fees. Of the 22M that Georgia State allocated, 19.2M of it was student fees.

oh, was your post meant to be loaded for Georgia State only? silly me. Here I thought ppl would be confused because the percentages dont compute with student fees only.

We are bringing in $20mil purely from student fees....while charging only $270/semester for full-time students...think about that. Enrollment also continues to trend upward. That sounds like a good problem to have.

Actually, any accountant here? isn't this basically splitting hairs?
1) school funds: school taking money from students, then handing it over to athletics
2) athletic fees: school's athletics taking money directly from students

(06-28-2018 04:33 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 04:08 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:59 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees + direct/indirect school funds + money from state
1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

didn't read the fine print. fixed it for ya.

Right but the majority of that is student fees. Of the 22M that Georgia State allocated, 19.2M of it was student fees.

oh, was your post meant to be loaded for Georgia State only? silly me. Here I thought ppl would be confused because the percentages dont compute with student fees only.

I was using your school as an example since you know....you're a Georgia State fan and all, but be offended if you want to. It's your school's numbers. I'm just typing them out.

Most of UL and ULM budget numbers are from direct institutional support. UL's student fees are listed at $454,141 and ULM's is $316,500.

(06-28-2018 04:35 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 04:33 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 04:08 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:59 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees + direct/indirect school funds + money from state
1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

didn't read the fine print. fixed it for ya.

Right but the majority of that is student fees. Of the 22M that Georgia State allocated, 19.2M of it was student fees.

oh, was your post meant to be loaded for Georgia State only? silly me. Here I thought ppl would be confused because the percentages dont compute with student fees only.

I was using your school as an example since you know....you're a Georgia State fan and all, but be offended if you want to. It's your school's numbers. I'm just typing them out.

huh?
1) you said the subsidized percentages are from students fees
2) your claim didn't make sense for a lot of the schools, which left me confused (ex. Troy brought in $1mil from student fees yet its revenue was 72% subsidized)
3) I went back and read the fine prints on USA Today
4) I corrected your mistake here to help others who might have had the same confusion (like the ULM fan above)
5) then you said "right but the majority of that is student fees."....went onto used Georgia State as your example...missing my point entirely
6) then I finally realized that the list was a sham and you just wanted to post a loaded comment for Georgia State. It's cool no problem. carry on

(06-28-2018 03:20 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  UTA and Little Rock spending a lot of money on football.....

It explains all of UTA's struggles over the past couple years...spending 14 million on a sport they don't even have.

(06-28-2018 04:34 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Actually, any accountant here? isn't this basically splitting hairs?
1) school funds: school taking money from students, then handing it over to athletics
2) athletic fees: school's athletics taking money directly from students

It depends on the school and state. My understanding is Louisiana state schools can’t charge a separate student athletic fee and are limited in the amount they can transfer from the general fund (3%-9%?). VA is on the other end of the spectrum and can’t use school or state funds for athletics so all subsidized amounts will be coming from student fees.

I’m interested in the accounting going on at Ark St. Some large fluctuations the last few years in a couple of categories. Any Wolves can shed light on that?

(06-28-2018 04:06 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:57 PM)Golota76 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 03:30 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  % subsidized by student fees

1. Coastal Carolina....83.82%
2. Georgia State....74.18%
3. Troy....72.46%
4. Texas State....72.28%
5. South Alabama....67.33%
6. App State....60.63%
7. Georgia Southern....57.96%
8. UL-Lafayette....45.19%
9. UL-Monroe....44.71%
10. Arkansas State....31.99%

ULM gets like 316k from student fees. How does this formula work? Wish we get most of budget covered by student fees.

formula used by USA Today
% of subsidized revenue= [(student fees + direct school funds + indirect school funds + state money allocated to your school's athletics)/Total Revenue] x 100

I got it the reason I asked was because it just said “student fee” before adding what school gives.

(06-28-2018 04:48 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  Most of UL and ULM budget numbers are from direct institutional support. UL's student fees are listed at $454,141 and ULM's is $316,500.

That’s Horrible . Lol
I didnt realize that some schools got so much.

(06-28-2018 05:49 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 04:34 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Actually, any accountant here? isn't this basically splitting hairs?
1) school funds: school taking money from students, then handing it over to athletics
2) athletic fees: school's athletics taking money directly from students

It depends on the school and state. My understanding is Louisiana state schools can’t charge a separate student athletic fee and are limited in the amount they can transfer from the general fund (3%-9%?). VA is on the other end of the spectrum and can’t use school or state funds for athletics so all subsidized amounts will be coming from student fees.

I’m interested in the accounting going on at Ark St. Some large fluctuations the last few years in a couple of categories. Any Wolves can shed light on that?

Im sure Arkstfan will be able to elaborate much more thoroughly but a lot of it has to do with frequent facilities projects we’ve started and completed in the last few years (and from my understanding those numbers haven’t taken our North endzone project into account)