Troy just picked up Vanderbilt's #1 recruit from 2017 in Jacob Free. Pro Style QB that redshirted at Vanderbilt and transferred to NWMCC. He is class of '19, not an immediate transfer, so it appears we will watch him play at JUCO this year. Could be a baller in our system.

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Jacob-...Interests/
https://247sports.com/college/vanderbilt...l/Commits/

(07-31-2018 11:03 AM)_x_ Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 08:57 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(07-29-2018 10:53 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  https://247sports.com/college/louisiana/...l/Commits/

With today’s three new commits the Cajuns are up to #51 in the class rankings. There are 4 other possible commits that could really push this class over the top. 2 are 3* RBs one 3* OL and another 3* DE.

This class is special.

Even if its early that is awesome. Has a lot to do with quantity at this point based on the recruit avg as of now if you can maintain it will probably land in the 70's which is well above the typical best Belt team historically. Hold on and close. Troy is still on track to land the best class depending on how many they sign.

See this is where I disagree a bit and what I was talking about the other day. I think Louisiana is easily in the better spot right now compared to Troy. All 16 of Louisiana's commits are currently ranked and 14 of them are 3-star prospects. Troy may have a really nice average right now at .8439, but that only takes into account their top 5 recruits that have been ranked and completely ignores their 5 unranked players.

Those unranked players are likely to drop Troy's average once they begin to receive ratings. While it's not a guarantee, those guys that are ranked later in the recruiting cycle usually aren't rated as high on average. Also, Troy's top two recruits have only been rated by 247 so far and given very high ratings of 87 and 86. Again, not a guarantee, but their ratings are likely to drop if/when they get ranked by the other services.

It might or it might everything is to early for G5 recruiting. They seem to be doing very well. I would look at the offers right now to form an opinion on who you have signed. All but one of GS recruits have multiple FBS offers listed, most of the time those guys get graded out to a solid three. If multiple FBS staffs like the kid I am sure the evaluators will see the same thing.

(07-31-2018 06:40 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I would look at the offers right now to form an opinion on who you have signed. All but one of GS recruits have multiple FBS offers listed, most of the time those guys get graded out to a solid three. If multiple FBS staffs like the kid I am sure the evaluators will see the same thing.

Well, that may be true. But Troy's recruits almost never have a ton of FBS offers, and we seem to do pretty well, so I'm not so worried about raw talent. Vic Koenning & Co., along with the offensive and special teams staffs do a great job of developing players.

(07-31-2018 06:40 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 11:03 AM)_x_ Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 08:57 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(07-29-2018 10:53 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  https://247sports.com/college/louisiana/...l/Commits/

With today’s three new commits the Cajuns are up to #51 in the class rankings. There are 4 other possible commits that could really push this class over the top. 2 are 3* RBs one 3* OL and another 3* DE.

This class is special.

Even if its early that is awesome. Has a lot to do with quantity at this point based on the recruit avg as of now if you can maintain it will probably land in the 70's which is well above the typical best Belt team historically. Hold on and close. Troy is still on track to land the best class depending on how many they sign.

See this is where I disagree a bit and what I was talking about the other day. I think Louisiana is easily in the better spot right now compared to Troy. All 16 of Louisiana's commits are currently ranked and 14 of them are 3-star prospects. Troy may have a really nice average right now at .8439, but that only takes into account their top 5 recruits that have been ranked and completely ignores their 5 unranked players.

Those unranked players are likely to drop Troy's average once they begin to receive ratings. While it's not a guarantee, those guys that are ranked later in the recruiting cycle usually aren't rated as high on average. Also, Troy's top two recruits have only been rated by 247 so far and given very high ratings of 87 and 86. Again, not a guarantee, but their ratings are likely to drop if/when they get ranked by the other services.

It might or it might everything is to early for G5 recruiting. They seem to be doing very well. I would look at the offers right now to form an opinion on who you have signed. All but one of GS recruits have multiple FBS offers listed, most of the time those guys get graded out to a solid three. If multiple FBS staffs like the kid I am sure the evaluators will see the same thing.

I agree. Most of our commits have offers from USM, UAB, FAU, Marshall, etc and some have offers from Memphis, Tulane, etc. Best other offers so far: Tennessee and Miss St.

(07-31-2018 07:02 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 06:40 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I would look at the offers right now to form an opinion on who you have signed. All but one of GS recruits have multiple FBS offers listed, most of the time those guys get graded out to a solid three. If multiple FBS staffs like the kid I am sure the evaluators will see the same thing.

Well, that may be true. But Troy's recruits almost never have a ton of FBS offers, and we seem to do pretty well, so I'm not so worried about raw talent. Vic Koenning & Co., along with the offensive and special teams staffs do a great job of developing players.

All your top recruits do I just looked.

(08-01-2018 04:29 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 07:02 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 06:40 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I would look at the offers right now to form an opinion on who you have signed. All but one of GS recruits have multiple FBS offers listed, most of the time those guys get graded out to a solid three. If multiple FBS staffs like the kid I am sure the evaluators will see the same thing.

Well, that may be true. But Troy's recruits almost never have a ton of FBS offers, and we seem to do pretty well, so I'm not so worried about raw talent. Vic Koenning & Co., along with the offensive and special teams staffs do a great job of developing players.

All your top recruits do I just looked.

In the past, GS and Arkansas State have had lots of kids with multiple offers from high level G5s. BJ Smith for instance, only had an offer from Troy, but had an .85 on 247. Maybe this year is different, I'll give you that, but when we would get commits from guys who at the time didn't even have a 247 profile, it was concerning. The coaches have shown that doesn't matter. Many of them have contributed in a big way.

(08-01-2018 04:44 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 04:29 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 07:02 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 06:40 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I would look at the offers right now to form an opinion on who you have signed. All but one of GS recruits have multiple FBS offers listed, most of the time those guys get graded out to a solid three. If multiple FBS staffs like the kid I am sure the evaluators will see the same thing.

Well, that may be true. But Troy's recruits almost never have a ton of FBS offers, and we seem to do pretty well, so I'm not so worried about raw talent. Vic Koenning & Co., along with the offensive and special teams staffs do a great job of developing players.

All your top recruits do I just looked.

In the past, GS and Arkansas State have had lots of kids with multiple offers from high level G5s. BJ Smith for instance, only had an offer from Troy, but had an .85 on 247. Maybe this year is different, I'll give you that, but when we would get commits from guys who at the time didn't even have a 247 profile, it was concerning. The coaches have shown that doesn't matter. Many of them have contributed in a big way.

I started with 2015 Neal's first year your top recruit had a bunch of FBS offers and has only gotten better.

Also, to all not just you, our recruits and the Sun Belt in general have been .85 below usually much lower. It is not like any of us are getting above average three's in mass so when people say "low" rated that pretty much applies to 99% of everyones recruits in relation to the entire FBS. A .82 rated three star is not much better on paper than a .78 two and well within human error at the anecdotal individual level and as stated a three star grade can mean you are an FCS recruit or a top ten P5 recruit the number is where the story is not the star grade at the three star level. Lord knows we will hear about every individual example at some schools of two or unranked kid doing better than a borderline three star as if it means the whole ranking system is worthless. However over time teams that signed on average .82 players on average vs .78 on average overtime typically does much better in every single measurable category. This is what the thick heads cant wrap their heads around macro vs micro, being reliable vs being right 100% of the time. Honestly maybe the distance from the top two and bottom two in the Belt in recruiting can be somewhat significant but typically we are pretty close together BUT it is not always the sames teams at the bottom or at the top lately other than ArkSt so there inlies why we are closer together in overall talent.

Both Troy and UL are on track to be well above the Belt typical top finish of low 90's or high 80's and that is awesome because if you can do it, no reason all of us for the most part cant either. Very good sign for the conference and we are not putting the MAC and CUSA behind us without out recruiting them consistently. I believe GS has the best ranked class at 77 then Tyson took us off a cliff.

Bobcats just landed a .8416 rated OT out of Georgia.

https://247sports.com/player/zach-hayes-46047701

Recruiting was pretty poor during the final Blakeney years, just shows that winning is everything.

When Neal Brown took over however, recruiting got much better almost immediately:

QB Sawyer Smith (Miss St, Syracuse, UCF), decommitted from UCF
DE Kelvin Lucky (Texas, Cal, UCLA, UCF), decommitted from UCF
WR Sam Letton (Kentucky, Wake Forest, West Virginia, USF, Memphis)
LB Zo Bridges (Kentucky, Cinci, Memphis)

...in the following years, some more top signees chose Troy despite having many other solid offers:

DE Travin Mathis (Georgia Tech), CB Tre Young (UCF), CB Marcus Jones (Purdue), TE Anthony Lewis (Miss St), OL Jake Andrews (Georgia Tech), DT Will Choloh (Kansas State), CB Levon Fletcher (Colorado), and some more.

(08-01-2018 09:33 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Bobcats just landed a .8416 rated OT out of Georgia.

https://247sports.com/player/zach-hayes-46047701

STAY OUT OF GA!!!

(08-01-2018 09:33 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Bobcats just landed a .8416 rated OT out of Georgia.

https://247sports.com/player/zach-hayes-46047701

300 lbs in High School? Dadgum...

Troy reels in another .8333. Gonna be a good class.

https://twitter.com/Yvnqvon__/status/102...4108041216

(08-02-2018 09:13 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 09:33 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Bobcats just landed a .8416 rated OT out of Georgia.

https://247sports.com/player/zach-hayes-46047701

300 lbs in High School? Dadgum...

Pretty common these days

https://247sports.com/Player/Kardell-Thomas-85350/

(07-30-2018 01:58 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(07-30-2018 10:32 AM)trueblue21 Wrote:  When will some of the non-rated commits get rated?

That’s depends greatly on who is offering them.


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(08-02-2018 02:25 AM)T2003 Wrote:  Recruiting was pretty poor during the final Blakeney years, just shows that winning is everything.

When Neal Brown took over however, recruiting got much better almost immediately:

QB Sawyer Smith (Miss St, Syracuse, UCF), decommitted from UCF
DE Kelvin Lucky (Texas, Cal, UCLA, UCF), decommitted from UCF
WR Sam Letton (Kentucky, Wake Forest, West Virginia, USF, Memphis)
LB Zo Bridges (Kentucky, Cinci, Memphis)

...in the following years, some more top signees chose Troy despite having many other solid offers:

DE Travin Mathis (Georgia Tech), CB Tre Young (UCF), CB Marcus Jones (Purdue), TE Anthony Lewis (Miss St), OL Jake Andrews (Georgia Tech), DT Will Choloh (Kansas State), CB Levon Fletcher (Colorado), and some more.

Winning helps, but that takes away from Brown as a person, in my opinion. He is a high energy guy who seems to inspire his team to play hard every week. I suspect he brings that same energy to recruiting which likely helps convince guys to come to the middle of nowhere. The immaculate salesperson (I say person to be inclusive).

(08-02-2018 11:57 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  Winning helps, but that takes away from Brown as a person, in my opinion. He is a high energy guy who seems to inspire his team to play hard every week. I suspect he brings that same energy to recruiting which likely helps convince guys to come to the middle of nowhere. The immaculate salesperson (I say person to be inclusive).

I am a cloud-being. You saying "person" is insulting.

(08-01-2018 09:33 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Bobcats just landed a .8416 rated OT out of Georgia.

https://247sports.com/player/zach-hayes-46047701

With nothing but FCS offers.

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Cajuns can sign a full 25 this year as sanctions are finally lifted. But we will likely only sign 19 or 20 because of blue shirts.

(08-02-2018 12:09 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 09:33 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Bobcats just landed a .8416 rated OT out of Georgia.

https://247sports.com/player/zach-hayes-46047701

With nothing but FCS offers.

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But I thought the rating was based on who offers? You contradict yourself in less two posts.... Man you never fail to come through!

looks like 247 has used the dead period to rate all committed players. as expected, Troy's avg has dropped a bit, Texas state seems to be quietly recruiting a top level class. stAte is now the new average leader. and picked up a 3 star CB Jarius Reimonenq. Louisiana was high on him earlier, but the class filled up on him before he was ready to commit. im expecting stAte to be very pleased with him. Sun Belt recruiting is looking strong with Depth.