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RE: CAA Tourney to Move to Washington DC
Official statement article:
http://eventsdc.com/NewsRoom/News/Events...t_ESA.aspx

"The first CAA Men’s Basketball Championship in Washington, DC will be held March 7 – 10, 2020. Future tournament dates are March 6 – 9, 2021 and March 5 – 8, 2022. The tournament semifinals and championship game will be televised nationally on the CBS Sports Network."

"Washington, DC provides a central location for the CAA Men’s Basketball Championship. Six of the CAA’s 10-member schools are located within 250 miles of our nation’s capital and nearly 400,000 alumni from CAA institutions reside within 100 miles of the city."

It will be interesting trying to fit 400k alums in a 4,200 seat arena

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06-19-2018 04:28 AM
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That's a nice concept drawing, I wonder what a photograph of the area today would look like and whether it would look closer to today's view or that of the concept drawing by March 7, 2020.
06-19-2018 07:08 AM
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CAA Tourney to Move to Washington DC
Wait. That horrendous CBSSN deal runs through (at least) 2022?

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RE: CAA Tourney to Move to Washington DC
Having the game in DC is likely to get a larger Tribe turnout than even Williamsburg.

Richmond might again be the best permanent home once the new Coliseum is built
-Truly downtown with better adjacent bars/hotels
-Still close to alums
-better size for a conference tournament
-No longer a home game for VCU
-More fair to the fan bases down south
-On the hi-speed rail line from Boston/NY/Philly
06-19-2018 04:07 PM
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No complaints here. The Baltimore experience was good and not too bad of travel. The Charleston experience has been also good. More of a vacation situation, but really fun. Charleston is a great city. DC means that it once again becomes a possibility to commute there and not stay for the whole tourney. But, given the last 5 years, most of us on this Board should want to be present for the tourney if possible. The reduced seating is a somewhat of a concern, especially for the final. But, the overall attendance numbers make a 5000 seat arena fairly appropriate. The night we played Northeastern in 2015 was the most pro-Tribe crowd I have ever been around. Even that night, there were not 5000 Tribe fans there, but we did have 97-98% of the fans rooting for us that night. DC, like Baltimore, makes it highly likely that our large Northern Virginia alumni base can show up for the whole tourney. I also would not mind if the tourney went back south after a 3 yr run in DC. I do think it has greatly helped Charleston in the tourney, but both UNCW and COC were good enough to win on their own merit(both were #1 throughout the year they won). It is no where close to the advantage that VCU used to have in Richmond.

I, too, am not a big fan of CBSSports Network. But, I remain hopeful that the coverage will improve throughout the year. Now, just eagerly awaiting the full 2018-19 schedule.
06-19-2018 05:00 PM
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I have attended the CAA tourney for about 30 years-Richmond, Baltimore and Charleston and his is a GREAT move!

The smaller arena will add to atmosphere and the limited seating will make it more elite. Agree that 4,200 is too small but the ACC for years has had this problem. Fans learn quickly to buy up the tickets from the loser of the games and it all works out!

if we have a quality team and make the finals we will pack the arena with Tribe fans-for those who were at Baltimore when we played in the finals remember that Tribe fans were about 80% of those in attendance.
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I would agree that Baltimore @ 14,000 and N. Charleston @ 13,295 were both too large for the CAA tournament. But a seating capacity of 4,200, in a location that is closer to those schools that travel better seems like an extreme reduction.

I have attended several ACC tournaments and it is not just about buying tickets from losing schools fans. I would imagine the per school allocation will be about 400. That does not favor W&M, with a large fanbase close by. It also is about infrastructure.

I could see an arena reduction, but at 30% capacity of previous arenas, this just seems too small. A reduction by 30-40% seems more reasonable than a reduction of 70%.
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I'd rather have a packed house of 4200 than 4200 in a 13000 seat arena.
06-20-2018 05:16 AM
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So, when the Tribe makes the championship game, on a Tuesday night, how do 4,200 Tribe fans get tickets for the championship game to see the Tribe play for the chance to make the Dance?

How does the Tribe crowd that showed up for two finals in Baltimore get into this arena on a Tuesday night?

March, 2020. The end of the 2019-2020 season. The one that everyone has now circled. Demand among the Tribe faithful for tickets is likely to be very high.

BTW, not being terribly familiar with DC, on a Tuesday night, is traffic an issue, and are there local places to have a pre-game meal?
06-20-2018 05:33 AM
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Traffic will be horrible on a Tuesday night. There are no restaurants worth noting near the arena, so staying at National Harbor makes a lot of sense. Staying in DC is a solid option if you want to take the metro. You can stay near Cap One arena or the convention center and take the Green line to Congress Heights. It's a 10-15 minute metro ride during rush hour.
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I have never felt the need to stay at the “team hotel” before. Might it not make a lot more sense this time?
06-20-2018 07:49 AM
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Agree best bet would be to stay near Capitals Arena.
-Many hotels and bars due to the arena.
-Direct 15 min Metro Green line to Congress Heights.
-15 min walk to Union Station if traveling by Amtrak.

Beltway traffic will be terrible for both semis and final (M/Tu) games, so best to consider rail from burg or Richmond
06-20-2018 08:31 AM
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Completely agree on Amtrak. Fares from Williamsburg and Richmond are always very reasonable. Another option that is a great place to stay, but a more difficult commute is Old Town Alexandria. Amtrak lets off at the King Street station. Great hotel and restaurant options there. Water taxi to National Harbor, and the King Street metro station (yellow line) can get you to Congress Heights with a switch at L'Enfant Plaza to the Green.

I'm starting to get excited. I live way out past Dulles Airport, but am now thinking that staying in DC might be a great idea if we make it to Monday/Tuesday
06-20-2018 09:27 AM
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The way I look at it is that it is only a 3 year commitment. If this arena proves too small or the location is too crappy, the league will move on.

I'm pretty sure that the league looked at the attendance numbers at the tourney over the years and determined that the 4200 capacity fell within an acceptable range. Seems hard to believe though. The Showplace Arena in Upper Marlboro, MD was used for the women's CAA Tourney a few years ago. It is close to the same distance outside of DC. It isn't new and shiny, but holds 5,500. The women's tournament is being held at Delaware for 2019. Capacity there is 5000. It's hard to wrap my head around the CAA men's tournament moving to a smaller venue than the women's tournament.

I think the bet is on the promised buildup around the new arena. Other than location, that is the only thing why moving to an arena of this size makes sense.
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I noticed the Commish's comment that the CAA was partnering with St. Elizabeth's to put on some other regular season events. I assume that was not regular conference games, but would hope that maybe they are trying to develop a set of conference vs conference challenge games. Otherwise, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what he was referring to.

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Could be that they were the low bid or threw in hosting other events (probably other sports like volleyball, gymnastics, women's hoops, etc.). Would be cool to have more tournaments there.
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RE: CAA Tourney to Move to Washington DC
(06-20-2018 10:48 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  The way I look at it is that it is only a 3 year commitment. If this arena proves too small or the location is too crappy, the league will move on.

I'm pretty sure that the league looked at the attendance numbers at the tourney over the years and determined that the 4200 capacity fell within an acceptable range. Seems hard to believe though. The Showplace Arena in Upper Marlboro, MD was used for the women's CAA Tourney a few years ago. It is close to the same distance outside of DC. It isn't new and shiny, but holds 5,500. The women's tournament is being held at Delaware for 2019. Capacity there is 5000. It's hard to wrap my head around the CAA men's tournament moving to a smaller venue than the women's tournament.

I think the bet is on the promised buildup around the new arena. Other than location, that is the only thing why moving to an arena of this size makes sense.

Strategic geography of decision is understandable. CoC and UNCW have unfair advantage in Charleston. Northern schools shouldn’t have to travel to far end of conference footprint. Suspect Hofstra’s review of conference affiliation may have been a factor in decision.

Attractiveness of tactical geography of new location is TBD. Fan experience with hotels, parking, metro will be an unknown. Don’t have a sense for the finances — will schools up charge for a reduced number of tickets? Might not be popular with younger less well heeled fans.

Optics for the conference aren’t particularly attractive at first glance. Those providing initial reporting could arguably be charged with burying the lead “Leaders of ten team one bid league conclude only 4200 fans per session will pay to see who wins the bid.”

Wouldn’t have guessed that the Southern Conference tournament drew more than CAA in 2017. NCAA statistics indicate this was the case. Probably a given this will be the case beginning in 2020.
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I buy the tournament book of tickets so I am not worried about walk up tickets. If the tournament books become hard to get through W&M, I will just buy through another school.

Not a fan of DC, but I can stay with relatives and take the Metro.

My family lived very close to location of this new gym, but then the MLK riots took place and we moved. Hopefully the neighborhood has improved since 1968.
06-21-2018 01:48 AM
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Replacement for the Richmond Coliseum and its area development is essentially now a go. The 17,500 seat arena was always designed with the flexibility to scale down in size for hosting smaller events. Timeframe will be sooner than later, and the Richmond CAA HQ needs to act now to get booked in before the A10 and others lock us out of dates. This is a total no brainer for a great permanent home for the Tourney.

https://www.richmond.com/news/local/city...73ad4.html



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A no-brainer if we can get in. Foot-in-the door mentality, as the only things likely to be complete in 3 years are an arena and a hotel. The rest of the project, probably a 10 year plan. Richmond as a city has really really become an attractive place. Are they vying for NHL/NBA expansion?
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