Someone asked about Dillard. Spire has a very loaded high school prep team and a post grad prep team. Dillard who was out of South Bend IN Riley is on the post grad team.

3/11 twitter

SPIRE Post Grad Basketball defeats Oakville Prep (Canada) 123-111! @SpireBasketball was led by Marcus Gibbs w/ 35 points, 9 assists & 8 rebounds. Shamar Dillard 29 points, 13 rebounds & 6 assists. Aundre Polk had 16 (all in the second half) 6 rebounds! #TheSPIREway #GoFURTHER

2/18 twitter

*FINAL SCORE* 95-81 @SpireBasketball Post Grad with a BIG win over #4 ranked Mt. Zion Prep! HUGE game from Shamar Dillard 22pts, 10rebs, 3 assists. Marcus Gibbs 20pts, 6 assists. Gary Solomon 18pts, 8 assists, 7 rebs. Ayo Aderoboye added 12 pts (4 threes). #GoFURTHER ?

1/30

SPIRE Post-Grad Basketball closes out the weekend with a 73-63 win over TSF Black! Led by Shamar Dillard w/26pts, 10 rebounds & 3 assists. Gary Solomon Jr. w/18pts and 5 assists and Marcus Gibbs w/17 points. SPIRE tallied 34 team rebounds and 18 assists!

11/18

SPIRE Post Grad finishes their weekend in Memphis w/a 91-76 win over Athens Prep. Led by Gary Solomon with 27 points, 7 assists, 4 steals. Marcus Gibbs added 24pts/6 rebounds and Shamar Dillard filled the stat sheet with 19pts, 13 rebounds and 8 blocks! #TheSPIREway #GoFURTHER

Not to jinx Dillard, but if he has signed or is signing, he has the potential to be a Tim Bond type of player.

(03-28-2019 11:29 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Someone asked about Dillard. Spire has a very loaded high school prep team and a post grad prep team. Dillard who was out of South Bend IN Riley is on the post grad team.

3/11 twitter

SPIRE Post Grad Basketball defeats Oakville Prep (Canada) 123-111! @SpireBasketball was led by Marcus Gibbs w/ 35 points, 9 assists & 8 rebounds. Shamar Dillard 29 points, 13 rebounds & 6 assists. Aundre Polk had 16 (all in the second half) 6 rebounds! #TheSPIREway #GoFURTHER

2/18 twitter

*FINAL SCORE* 95-81 @SpireBasketball Post Grad with a BIG win over #4 ranked Mt. Zion Prep! HUGE game from Shamar Dillard 22pts, 10rebs, 3 assists. Marcus Gibbs 20pts, 6 assists. Gary Solomon 18pts, 8 assists, 7 rebs. Ayo Aderoboye added 12 pts (4 threes). #GoFURTHER ?

1/30

SPIRE Post-Grad Basketball closes out the weekend with a 73-63 win over TSF Black! Led by Shamar Dillard w/26pts, 10 rebounds & 3 assists. Gary Solomon Jr. w/18pts and 5 assists and Marcus Gibbs w/17 points. SPIRE tallied 34 team rebounds and 18 assists!

11/18

SPIRE Post Grad finishes their weekend in Memphis w/a 91-76 win over Athens Prep. Led by Gary Solomon with 27 points, 7 assists, 4 steals. Marcus Gibbs added 24pts/6 rebounds and Shamar Dillard filled the stat sheet with 19pts, 13 rebounds and 8 blocks! #TheSPIREway #GoFURTHER

Not to jinx Dillard, but if he has signed or is signing, he has the potential to be a Tim Bond type of player.

Unlike previous years, will EMU try to OUT SHOOT the opponent???

I'm wondering if this team will be full of players who can't shoot but defense????

If the previous announced verbals hold we have four slots. I think we are done with the transfers out. King is our only backup to Toure, Parris still has potential. Lets see what the staff can come up with remaining chess pieces.

(03-30-2019 08:27 AM)emu79 Wrote:  If the previous announced verbals hold we have four slots. I think we are done with the transfers out. King is our only backup to Toure, Parris still has potential. Lets see what the staff can come up with remaining chess pieces.

MBB is a crazy sport.

Duke and previously KY, recruited McDonald's All-Americans who became the one and done classes. Bye, bye, Williamson, Barrett and Reddish.

N. Mexico State used to build teams composed, I believe of 100% JUCO players. They won (or we wouldn't know about it. Who cares if they didn't win) and made the big dance.

Nevada I read somewhere is largely a TRANSFER MBB team and did very well this season.

So like Baskin-Robbins, you can pick your flavor... No right way. No wrong way. Depends on the school and the HC.

It would be silly for Izzo or Coach K to recruit a bunch of transfers, JUCOs, etc. Why? Izzo will go very, very hard for Emoni Bates. Nevada might have to settle for a transfer who ave. 7 ppg as a soph at a mid-major. Different worlds we live in...

EDIT: Here is from the article I had read about Nevada and their transfers...

"Ten players on the roster, including the team’s top six scorers, transferred from another school. They come from programs of every size, region and reputation: North Carolina State, Louisiana Tech, Southern Illinois, Portland, Bryant. The Wolf Pack’s stars — rugged forward Jordan Caroline and the twin tandem of Caleb and Cody Martin — are transfers. The role players are transfers. Nevada does mix in high school recruits, including heralded freshman big man Jordan Brown. But this is mostly a veteran college team of players who relished the opportunity to start over and entered Musselman’s program with open eyes."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/co...4da06bbc23

I hated the idea of depending on JUCO or other transfers that Murphy espoused in an EMU video 3 years ago. In his eight years, however, he has had only three freshman who had notable careers while here, Lee, Bond and Thompson. Rafus, our heralded freshman this year, looked incredibly overmatched which might explain why he did not end up at his original school TCU or the other Power Five's that offered him.

Rob Murphy is not John Bielien, who takes raw freshman like DJ Wilson, Mo Wagner and John Teske and makes them NBA prospects, that is not who he is. He does, however, properly evaluate and coax some pretty good players to transfer to EMU like Mangum, Toney, Minnie and Jackson.

Bring them on next year! [/i]

(03-28-2019 09:35 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I want to see players coming here with multiple D1 offers, or D1 experience. Watch the stat line, some of these JUCOs are loaded, like wise the prep schools. I really don't care where they come from. If Joe Moon IV has zero D1 offers and another point guard has four I go with the one with four D1 offers. Joe is taller than Ellison but remember Ellison was also a finalist for Mr. Basketball and All State in Football for two years as well at WR. I want to see as much of what I said in how Murphy uses his remaining scholies.

What's the word on Moon? Wierd that it's hard to find and recruiting info on him. With his stats and accolades he should be D1.

Murphy needs to sign at least 2 PGs and possibly 3, even if one is a walk-on.

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(04-02-2019 11:31 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(03-28-2019 09:35 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I want to see players coming here with multiple D1 offers, or D1 experience. Watch the stat line, some of these JUCOs are loaded, like wise the prep schools. I really don't care where they come from. If Joe Moon IV has zero D1 offers and another point guard has four I go with the one with four D1 offers. Joe is taller than Ellison but remember Ellison was also a finalist for Mr. Basketball and All State in Football for two years as well at WR. I want to see as much of what I said in how Murphy uses his remaining scholies.

What's the word on Moon? Wierd that it's hard to find and recruiting info on him. With his stats and accolades he should be D1.

Murphy needs to sign at least 2 PGs and possibly 3, even if one is a walk-on.

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Last I saw in a Detroit newspaper, maybe Indianapolis, D-II.

I don't know if he is D-I. All I know is what I read...

Noah Morgan committed to us

(04-04-2019 09:02 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Noah Morgan committed to us

This is the Tweet that he was transferring last year from Fairleigh Dickinson to FL JUCO

https://twitter.com/JucoRecruiting/statu...0347073536

He put up really nice numbers as a freshman at F.D.

I thought I remembered seeing a highlight tape of his and I liked it.

We offer Arizona high school SF Otis Frazier III 6'5
Drexel and N Colorado also offered

Article on top AZ players Trent Brown and Otis Frazier III are mentioned

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/h...730642002/

Otis Frazier III highlight tape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpISye0pcGQ

https://www.prephoops.com/2018/06/recrui...zier-2019/

It looks to me like Murphy may be realizing two important things about today's game.

One, if you don't shoot the three ball, you can go home. It has replaced the dominant centers Alcindor, Walton, Ewing, Olujawon, etc... of the past as the primary offensive weapon.

Two, you need to play defense and with three point shooters, you have to cover more of the floor. You need foot speed to do so and honestly our two zone wings last year were very SLOW. Tim Bond could close out on a three point attempt, Thompson and Minnie could not.

Buffalo played for the most part with a lineup that featured Perkins as their tallest player at 6"8", smaller than anyone on our front line. They truthfully did not show a lot of fundamental defensive technique. They were, however, very fast and big leapers which translated into a great defensive team. Athletic ability can cover a whole lot of fundamental sins.

(04-10-2019 06:50 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  It looks to me like Murphy may be realizing two important things about today's game.

One, if you don't shoot the three ball, you can go home. It has replaced the dominant centers Alcindor, Walton, Ewing, Olujawon, etc... of the past as the primary offensive weapon.

Two, you need to play defense and with three point shooters, you have to cover more of the floor. You need foot speed to do so and honestly our two zone wings last year were very SLOW. Tim Bond could close out on a three point attempt, Thompson and Minnie could not.

Buffalo played for the most part with a lineup that featured Perkins as their tallest player at 6"8", smaller than anyone on our front line. They truthfully did not show a lot of fundamental defensive technique. They were, however, very fast and big leapers which translated into a great defensive team. Athletic ability can cover a whole lot of fundamental sins.

Jerry, you and I are on the same page.

I have watched the evolution of the game from a big man game of C (and PF) to perimeter shooting all because of the ability of players to make more points per attempt from behind the arc than in the paint.

I'd rather have a player make 40% of his 3-balls than 50% of his 2-pointers.

I wonder how Shaq would fare in today's game. I'd do a track meet style game vs. him. Try to beat him down the floor and find an open trey.

All-area teams for Detroit area. Not much EMU. No mentions of Moon's schools. We are in Julian Dozier of UD-Jesuit.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports...423937002/

Why can't E Michigan basketball get top notch freshman talent? Ohio U just got Ben Roderick to sign! A finalist for Mr basketball in Ohio! His senior stats were 28 PPG and 8 RBS! We've no one who can score like this on our entire team! Remember Ohio U just fired there coach...…..We don't recruit the best, or compete for the best high school talent! Other then JT IV, who's the last freshman who committed to us with 5 or more D1 offers? JT IV was the best true freshman in the past 40 years, and Murphy wasted his talents with chuck it up Paul Jackson, and super chuck it up Willie Mangum! Both players took 15 to 17 shots a game, and shot 37 percent from the field! JT IV should've left as E Mich all time leading scorer!

There are 3 kids here in the Columbus area who have multiple D1 offers, and 5 0r more MAC offers, and E Mich has offered ZERO! Toledo, Miami Ohio, and Kent St have offered all 3, and others have offered 2!

(04-16-2019 02:47 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Why can't E Michigan basketball get top notch freshman talent? Ohio U just got Ben Roderick to sign! A finalist for Mr basketball in Ohio! His senior stats were 28 PPG and 8 RBS! We've no one who can score like this on our entire team! Remember Ohio U just fired there coach...…..We don't recruit the best, or compete for the best high school talent! Other then JT IV, who's the last freshman who committed to us with 5 or more D1 offers? JT IV was the best true freshman in the past 40 years, and Murphy wasted his talents with chuck it up Paul Jackson, and super chuck it up Willie Mangum! Both players took 15 to 17 shots a game, and shot 37 percent from the field! JT IV should've left as E Mich all time leading scorer!

Glory Days, would you as a high school coach recommend a prospect go to EMU to play for Murphy? You are correct, JT4 was great as a freshman and never got a whole lot better. Same with Ray Lee. Two years ago Rob went high school and got a less than prized recruiting class of Ballard, Ellison, King, Silver, Jones and McAdoo.

He is what he is. Jackson and Mangum would have been recruiting victories for the prior two coaches and produced a .500 MAC record that both would have also envied. Rob Murphy does not develop talent, he recruits it.

(04-16-2019 07:28 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 02:47 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Why can't E Michigan basketball get top notch freshman talent? Ohio U just got Ben Roderick to sign! A finalist for Mr basketball in Ohio! His senior stats were 28 PPG and 8 RBS! We've no one who can score like this on our entire team! Remember Ohio U just fired there coach...…..We don't recruit the best, or compete for the best high school talent! Other then JT IV, who's the last freshman who committed to us with 5 or more D1 offers? JT IV was the best true freshman in the past 40 years, and Murphy wasted his talents with chuck it up Paul Jackson, and super chuck it up Willie Mangum! Both players took 15 to 17 shots a game, and shot 37 percent from the field! JT IV should've left as E Mich all time leading scorer!

Glory Days, would you as a high school coach recommend a prospect go to EMU to play for Murphy? You are correct, JT4 was great as a freshman and never got a whole lot better. Same with Ray Lee. Two years ago Rob went high school and got a less than prized recruiting class of Ballard, Ellison, King, Silver, Jones and McAdoo.

He is what he is. Jackson and Mangum would have been recruiting victories for the prior two coaches and produced a .500 MAC record that both would have also envied. Rob Murphy does not develop talent, he recruits it.

Jerry, I agree with your assessment of Murphy on every area mentioned, but why for the last 15 to 20 years do we seem to not have a shot at top 5 player in a midwestern state! Bowling Green got the two brothers one will be a junior, and the other one will be a freshman, and both are from Detroit...…..E Mich doesn't even offer them either! I'm talking about a 1st team all state player from class A school! Last one was Theron Wilson I believe!

(04-16-2019 08:38 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 07:28 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 02:47 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Why can't E Michigan basketball get top notch freshman talent? Ohio U just got Ben Roderick to sign! A finalist for Mr basketball in Ohio! His senior stats were 28 PPG and 8 RBS! We've no one who can score like this on our entire team! Remember Ohio U just fired there coach...…..We don't recruit the best, or compete for the best high school talent! Other then JT IV, who's the last freshman who committed to us with 5 or more D1 offers? JT IV was the best true freshman in the past 40 years, and Murphy wasted his talents with chuck it up Paul Jackson, and super chuck it up Willie Mangum! Both players took 15 to 17 shots a game, and shot 37 percent from the field! JT IV should've left as E Mich all time leading scorer!

Glory Days, would you as a high school coach recommend a prospect go to EMU to play for Murphy? You are correct, JT4 was great as a freshman and never got a whole lot better. Same with Ray Lee. Two years ago Rob went high school and got a less than prized recruiting class of Ballard, Ellison, King, Silver, Jones and McAdoo.

He is what he is. Jackson and Mangum would have been recruiting victories for the prior two coaches and produced a .500 MAC record that both would have also envied. Rob Murphy does not develop talent, he recruits it.

Jerry, I agree with your assessment of Murphy on every area mentioned, but why for the last 15 to 20 years do we seem to not have a shot at top 5 player in a midwestern state! Bowling Green got the two brothers one will be a junior, and the other one will be a freshman, and both are from Detroit...…..E Mich doesn't even offer them either! I'm talking about a 1st team all state player from class A school! Last one was Theron Wilson I believe!

Murphy focuses on JUCOs. So did Ramsey. I knew the father of a recruit back when Ramsey was at EMU and the word was out that Ramsey wasn't really interested in HS kids. Too many years of going for the quick fix.

Hopefully the coach we get next year doesn't take this lazy approach.

(04-16-2019 08:38 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 07:28 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 02:47 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Why can't E Michigan basketball get top notch freshman talent? Ohio U just got Ben Roderick to sign! A finalist for Mr basketball in Ohio! His senior stats were 28 PPG and 8 RBS! We've no one who can score like this on our entire team! Remember Ohio U just fired there coach...…..We don't recruit the best, or compete for the best high school talent! Other then JT IV, who's the last freshman who committed to us with 5 or more D1 offers? JT IV was the best true freshman in the past 40 years, and Murphy wasted his talents with chuck it up Paul Jackson, and super chuck it up Willie Mangum! Both players took 15 to 17 shots a game, and shot 37 percent from the field! JT IV should've left as E Mich all time leading scorer!

Glory Days, would you as a high school coach recommend a prospect go to EMU to play for Murphy? You are correct, JT4 was great as a freshman and never got a whole lot better. Same with Ray Lee. Two years ago Rob went high school and got a less than prized recruiting class of Ballard, Ellison, King, Silver, Jones and McAdoo.

He is what he is. Jackson and Mangum would have been recruiting victories for the prior two coaches and produced a .500 MAC record that both would have also envied. Rob Murphy does not develop talent, he recruits it.

Jerry, I agree with your assessment of Murphy on every area mentioned, but why for the last 15 to 20 years do we seem to not have a shot at top 5 player in a midwestern state! Bowling Green got the two brothers one will be a junior, and the other one will be a freshman, and both are from Detroit...…..E Mich doesn't even offer them either! I'm talking about a 1st team all state player from class A school! Last one was Theron Wilson I believe!

Too close to home. If you want the college experience and want to get away from old habits you gotta go somewhere new.