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RE: Dynamic Conference Scheduling
Group our best with theirs during the final third of the season. Hold two separate tournaments. One in the west and another in the east. Divide the teams according to geography.
05-21-2018 03:29 AM
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(05-21-2018 03:29 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Group our best with theirs during the final third of the season. Hold two separate tournaments. One in the west and another in the east. Divide the teams according to geography.

You are just talking about doing something like the old bracket buster that was played I think between the MVC, MAC and Horizon. That died out in like 2012 because they realized it was a failed model and wasn't placing anyone any higher.

If I was doing Marshall scheduling it would look something this OOC to start:

Ohio (206) - Ohio is a rival of Marshall's in almost everything. The schools are 88 miles apart. Even though they kind of sucked the life out of everything this past year they usually have a top 100 RPI.

Toledo (75) - Not really a basketball rival but besides Buffalo they had the highest RPI in the MAC.

Xavier (4) - X is usually one of the top teams in the BE and has always been competitive. If Marshall had not been so intimidated at the beginning of the game last year we would and could have won that game.

Creighton (50) - No history at all between Marshall and Creighton but another BE school couldn't drag you down.

Illinois State (83) - MVC schools are always competitive for the most part.

That's how I would start out scheduling and then I would probably play 2 high major road games with at least a top 35 RPI.
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RE: Dynamic Conference Scheduling
I'm for anything that might help get more CUSA teams selected. I'd also like to attend a basketball tournament that's exciting and attended by a lot of fans. The Star would be packed if all the CUSA and Sun Belt schools west of the Mississippi were there. You guys could do something similar in Ashville or wherever...
Your plan sounds great for Marshall, if it can somehow be pulled off, but what about the rest of the conference?
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RE: Dynamic Conference Scheduling
First thing that needs to happen is to make a rule that if you aren't .500 in conference, you can't go to the NCAA Tournament.
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RE: Dynamic Conference Scheduling
(05-21-2018 10:45 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(05-21-2018 03:29 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Group our best with theirs during the final third of the season. Hold two separate tournaments. One in the west and another in the east. Divide the teams according to geography.

You are just talking about doing something like the old bracket buster that was played I think between the MVC, MAC and Horizon. That died out in like 2012 because they realized it was a failed model and wasn't placing anyone any higher.

If I was doing Marshall scheduling it would look something this OOC to start:

Ohio (206) - Ohio is a rival of Marshall's in almost everything. The schools are 88 miles apart. Even though they kind of sucked the life out of everything this past year they usually have a top 100 RPI.

Toledo (75) - Not really a basketball rival but besides Buffalo they had the highest RPI in the MAC.

Xavier (4) - X is usually one of the top teams in the BE and has always been competitive. If Marshall had not been so intimidated at the beginning of the game last year we would and could have won that game.

Creighton (50) - No history at all between Marshall and Creighton but another BE school couldn't drag you down.

Illinois State (83) - MVC schools are always competitive for the most part.

That's how I would start out scheduling and then I would probably play 2 high major road games with at least a top 35 RPI.

So two more road games st Xavier and creighton? Maybe creighton would do a home and home.
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RE: Dynamic Conference Scheduling
(05-21-2018 01:49 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  
(05-21-2018 10:45 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(05-21-2018 03:29 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Group our best with theirs during the final third of the season. Hold two separate tournaments. One in the west and another in the east. Divide the teams according to geography.

You are just talking about doing something like the old bracket buster that was played I think between the MVC, MAC and Horizon. That died out in like 2012 because they realized it was a failed model and wasn't placing anyone any higher.

If I was doing Marshall scheduling it would look something this OOC to start:

Ohio (206) - Ohio is a rival of Marshall's in almost everything. The schools are 88 miles apart. Even though they kind of sucked the life out of everything this past year they usually have a top 100 RPI.

Toledo (75) - Not really a basketball rival but besides Buffalo they had the highest RPI in the MAC.

Xavier (4) - X is usually one of the top teams in the BE and has always been competitive. If Marshall had not been so intimidated at the beginning of the game last year we would and could have won that game.

Creighton (50) - No history at all between Marshall and Creighton but another BE school couldn't drag you down.

Illinois State (83) - MVC schools are always competitive for the most part.

That's how I would start out scheduling and then I would probably play 2 high major road games with at least a top 35 RPI.

So two more road games st Xavier and creighton? Maybe creighton would do a home and home.

Former Herd Head Coach Dana Altman coached at Creighton for a time, so who knows?
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RE: Dynamic Conference Scheduling
(05-21-2018 01:49 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  
(05-21-2018 10:45 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(05-21-2018 03:29 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Group our best with theirs during the final third of the season. Hold two separate tournaments. One in the west and another in the east. Divide the teams according to geography.

You are just talking about doing something like the old bracket buster that was played I think between the MVC, MAC and Horizon. That died out in like 2012 because they realized it was a failed model and wasn't placing anyone any higher.

If I was doing Marshall scheduling it would look something this OOC to start:

Ohio (206) - Ohio is a rival of Marshall's in almost everything. The schools are 88 miles apart. Even though they kind of sucked the life out of everything this past year they usually have a top 100 RPI.

Toledo (75) - Not really a basketball rival but besides Buffalo they had the highest RPI in the MAC.

Xavier (4) - X is usually one of the top teams in the BE and has always been competitive. If Marshall had not been so intimidated at the beginning of the game last year we would and could have won that game.

Creighton (50) - No history at all between Marshall and Creighton but another BE school couldn't drag you down.

Illinois State (83) - MVC schools are always competitive for the most part.

That's how I would start out scheduling and then I would probably play 2 high major road games with at least a top 35 RPI.

So two more road games st Xavier and creighton? Maybe creighton would do a home and home.

I believe Id give up a home game for a top 35 RPI road or netural site game. Like I said if the Marshall team had not been intimidated last year at Xavier they would have had a good chance to win that game, instead of an 81-77 loss. Marshall was down 27 at one point in the 1st half.

Now would I have done this when D'Antoni 1st got there, no. But I believe now Marshall can compete with just about anyone. Actually I believe that for the top half of CUSA.
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RE: Dynamic Conference Scheduling
(05-21-2018 01:27 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  First thing that needs to happen is to make a rule that if you aren't .500 in conference, you can't go to the NCAA Tournament.

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(05-21-2018 01:27 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  First thing that needs to happen is to make a rule that if you aren't .500 in conference, you can't go to the NCAA Tournament.

Why? So, an 8-10 ACC team is ineligible but a 9-9 SWAC team is eligible?
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RE: Dynamic Conference Scheduling
clt says a conference in Asheville is a bad idea. Too much to do there
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RE: Dynamic Conference Scheduling
(05-21-2018 02:49 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(05-21-2018 01:27 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  First thing that needs to happen is to make a rule that if you aren't .500 in conference, you can't go to the NCAA Tournament.

Why? So, an 8-10 ACC team is ineligible but a 9-9 SWAC team is eligible?


Stop acting like either of those should be in. Sure, technically that would be the case on who’s eligible, but to imply the SWAC school would get in is ridiculous. This rule would be in place to keep out 8-10 teams that have proven over the course of the season that they don’t belong in the tournament and to allow more schools from smaller conferences with fantastic records entry in. Maybe a school lost their championship but is 28-3. Should they not take precedent over 20-14 Virginia Tech?
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(05-21-2018 03:34 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  clt says a conference in Asheville is a bad idea. Too much to do there

A tournament in Asheville for all the CUSA and Sun Belt schools in the east is something I might not survive myself. Too many fans and too much alcohol is a recipe for disaster. If basketball is truly something that's a priority in your part of the country, then by all means take advantage of it.
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(05-21-2018 10:45 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(05-21-2018 03:34 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  clt says a conference in Asheville is a bad idea. Too much to do there

A tournament in Asheville for all the CUSA and Sun Belt schools in the east is something I might not survive myself. Too many fans and too much alcohol is a recipe for disaster. If basketball is truly something that's a priority in your part of the country, then by all means take advantage of it.

You don't have to worry about it though. That's where the SoCon has their tourney. I watched the SoCon championship game and well it didn't look like the Asheville Civic Center had any renovations at all since Marshall played there in 1996.
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Hold it wherever you want. Nobody said it has to be in Asheville.
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(05-21-2018 02:23 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Former Herd Head Coach Dana Altman coached at Creighton for a time, so who knows?

I thought about Altman when writing that but he wasn't in Huntington long enough to even count. He was there for 1 year, 28 games and went 15-13. His wife hated Huntington and the state of WV.
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