(05-16-2018 07:14 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I m told this proposal will be discussed and voted on by the membership:

— divide into East and West for b-ball. Play each division team twice and other division once (16 games)

== After 16 games divide into groups of 1-3 4-6 7-9 and 10-12. For last 4 conference games play the other 2 teams in your pod home/home. So total of 20 conference games

— Tournament will be 10 teams Seeds 1-2 bye to semis and seeds 3-4 to quarters. So round 1– 7 vs 10 and 8-9 on home courts then 8 teams to NO. Then round 2– 5 seed vs 8-9 winner and 6 seed vs 7-10 winner. round 3–3 seed vs 6/7/10 winner and 4 seed vs 5/8/9 winner- then semis and finals

So in NO— day 1 2 games day 2 2 games day 3 2 games day 4 champ game

Teams in pod 1-3 will be guaranteed top 3 seeds regardless of final standings. Only 1 team in pod 10-12 will make tourney. A committee will rank teams 4-10 based on whole season not necessarily final conference standings

You can't be serious. This is about the craziest proposal I've ever seen. Which probably means the conference will go with it.

Awful proposal. This idea of eliminating the conference tourney spots is stupid.

This is dumb. It's not rocket science. If the goal here is to get an at-large bid into the NCAA's, you're not doing it by playing each other. You have to schedule OOC and you have to win. Twenty conference games is dumb.

Yeah, non conference scheduling is the cause of most of the Sun Belt's issues in the recent past. It has to be fixed. The format of conference play won't make a material difference like better non-conference scheduling will.

The proposal sounds like it could possibly be interesting, don't like the idea of a committee seeding teams, but it could create some excitement down the stretch. But again, as long as we're all scheduling like we currently do in non-conference play it really won't make a difference if we want to get more than one team into the tournament.

(05-17-2018 08:53 AM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  This is dumb. It's not rocket science. If the goal here is to get an at-large bid into the NCAA's, you're not doing it by playing each other. You have to schedule OOC and you have to win. Twenty conference games is dumb.

The Goal isn't to get an at large bid. That's practically impossible thanks to the way the selection committee works. The goal is to produce the highest seed possible in the NCAA's, to increase the chances of multiple wins and NCAA Units.

The theory is that we won't run into a situation like we did this past season, where ULL had to play Little Rock/Arkansas State to finish the season, and with nothing to play for, lost to Little Rock. Destroying their RPI, and ending any chance the league had at getting better than a 15 seed.

At least by ensuring the last 4 games were against other top teams, we could help out the league's chances at producing a 12 or 13 seed and getting an upset or two in the NCAA's.

So ULL had nothing to play for?

How about we remind those teams not to lose the last weekend so they get a higher seed...

(05-17-2018 12:16 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 08:53 AM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  This is dumb. It's not rocket science. If the goal here is to get an at-large bid into the NCAA's, you're not doing it by playing each other. You have to schedule OOC and you have to win. Twenty conference games is dumb.

The Goal isn't to get an at large bid. That's practically impossible thanks to the way the selection committee works. The goal is to produce the highest seed possible in the NCAA's, to increase the chances of multiple wins and NCAA Units.

The theory is that we won't run into a situation like we did this past season, where ULL had to play Little Rock/Arkansas State to finish the season, and with nothing to play for, lost to Little Rock. Destroying their RPI, and ending any chance the league had at getting better than a 15 seed.

At least by ensuring the last 4 games were against other top teams, we could help out the league's chances at producing a 12 or 13 seed and getting an upset or two in the NCAA's.

Whether you are a 15 seed or a 12 or 13 seed has zero bearing on whether or not you have a chance to win a game in the NCAAT. The best way to increase your odds of NCAA units is to get another team in the tournament. That is easiest way. If the idea is to put the best team in the NCAA, why are we even having a tournament?

(05-17-2018 02:40 PM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 12:16 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 08:53 AM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  This is dumb. It's not rocket science. If the goal here is to get an at-large bid into the NCAA's, you're not doing it by playing each other. You have to schedule OOC and you have to win. Twenty conference games is dumb.

The Goal isn't to get an at large bid. That's practically impossible thanks to the way the selection committee works. The goal is to produce the highest seed possible in the NCAA's, to increase the chances of multiple wins and NCAA Units.

The theory is that we won't run into a situation like we did this past season, where ULL had to play Little Rock/Arkansas State to finish the season, and with nothing to play for, lost to Little Rock. Destroying their RPI, and ending any chance the league had at getting better than a 15 seed.

At least by ensuring the last 4 games were against other top teams, we could help out the league's chances at producing a 12 or 13 seed and getting an upset or two in the NCAA's.

Whether you are a 15 seed or a 12 or 13 seed has zero bearing on whether or not you have a chance to win a game in the NCAAT. The best way to increase your odds of NCAA units is to get another team in the tournament. That is easiest way. If the idea is to put the best team in the NCAA, why are we even having a tournament?

And some folks have recommended just that in the past. In the current NCAA basketball climate, there are less and less chances of getting a non-P5 team in the tournament as an at large. BOP actually wrote and article based on the selections from last years tournament covering this exact situation.

Time to revamp the conference basketball tournament

(05-17-2018 02:40 PM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 12:16 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 08:53 AM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  This is dumb. It's not rocket science. If the goal here is to get an at-large bid into the NCAA's, you're not doing it by playing each other. You have to schedule OOC and you have to win. Twenty conference games is dumb.

The Goal isn't to get an at large bid. That's practically impossible thanks to the way the selection committee works. The goal is to produce the highest seed possible in the NCAA's, to increase the chances of multiple wins and NCAA Units.

The theory is that we won't run into a situation like we did this past season, where ULL had to play Little Rock/Arkansas State to finish the season, and with nothing to play for, lost to Little Rock. Destroying their RPI, and ending any chance the league had at getting better than a 15 seed.

At least by ensuring the last 4 games were against other top teams, we could help out the league's chances at producing a 12 or 13 seed and getting an upset or two in the NCAA's.

Whether you are a 15 seed or a 12 or 13 seed has zero bearing on whether or not you have a chance to win a game in the NCAAT. The best way to increase your odds of NCAA units is to get another team in the tournament. That is easiest way. If the idea is to put the best team in the NCAA, why are we even having a tournament?

That's been advocated in the past.

The thing is, we're not getting 2 in the NCAA's/ We could produce an amazing team and the selection committee will still find a way to keep them out. It's just not going to happen anymore using the current system. The best solution is to try and ensure our best team has the best shot at getting into the Big dance, because the odds of a 12 seed winning a game are much higher than that of a 15-16 seed.

(05-17-2018 02:40 PM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  Whether you are a 15 seed or a 12 or 13 seed has zero bearing on whether or not you have a chance to win a game in the NCAAT. The best way to increase your odds of NCAA units is to get another team in the tournament. That is easiest way. If the idea is to put the best team in the NCAA, why are we even having a tournament?

I completely disagree. The 1 seeds, 2 seeds, and most 3 seeds are usually a quantum leap up from the rest.

Judging by the attendance, not many care anyway.

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(05-17-2018 02:40 PM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 12:16 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 08:53 AM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  This is dumb. It's not rocket science. If the goal here is to get an at-large bid into the NCAA's, you're not doing it by playing each other. You have to schedule OOC and you have to win. Twenty conference games is dumb.

The Goal isn't to get an at large bid. That's practically impossible thanks to the way the selection committee works. The goal is to produce the highest seed possible in the NCAA's, to increase the chances of multiple wins and NCAA Units.

The theory is that we won't run into a situation like we did this past season, where ULL had to play Little Rock/Arkansas State to finish the season, and with nothing to play for, lost to Little Rock. Destroying their RPI, and ending any chance the league had at getting better than a 15 seed.

At least by ensuring the last 4 games were against other top teams, we could help out the league's chances at producing a 12 or 13 seed and getting an upset or two in the NCAA's.

Whether you are a 15 seed or a 12 or 13 seed has zero bearing on whether or not you have a chance to win a game in the NCAAT. The best way to increase your odds of NCAA units is to get another team in the tournament. That is easiest way. If the idea is to put the best team in the NCAA, why are we even having a tournament?

This is complete BS . . . terrible post.

I don't think you can make the flex schedule idea work well unless you preset which dates teams are at home.

You've got to go in knowing AState is at home the 17th and 19th and on the road the 24th and 26th and Georgia State needs to know they are home the 24th and 26th and on the road the 17th and 19th.

You can't tell your season ticket holders that there will be two home games that might be the 17th and 19th or might be the 24th and 26th.
With every game eventually being shown on ESPN+ you have to have the production crews lined up. You have to have all the game day staff lined up.
If you have a facility that is booking trade shows and concerts you need a firm schedule.

Terrible idea. What to expect when you allow coaches to devise ways to keep their jobs and make the program look better. Kind of stuff that happens when conference leadership is MIA.