(09-28-2020 01:22 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  If this (https://www.fueledbysports.com/largest-c...-arenas/3/) is accurate, that would put us around #135 in the nation. Not great, but honestly, I'd rather have a really nice arena that packs in people with the best quality seats, views, and amenities rather than building it too big. If we ever get to the point that we sell out over half of our games than I'll gladly eat my words. Hell, we had people on here saying 8,500 was too big and they were foolish to put in that many seats, so...whatever.

8500 is fine for a school our size, and considering the hole we've been in, it will take years of sustained success to even get us back to 75% capacity.

For comparison, VCU's arena is 7600 I think and they're trying to expand to 10k.

(09-28-2020 01:22 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  If this (https://www.fueledbysports.com/largest-c...-arenas/3/) is accurate, that would put us around #135 in the nation. Not great, but honestly, I'd rather have a really nice arena that packs in people with the best quality seats, views, and amenities rather than building it too big. If we ever get to the point that we sell out over half of our games than I'll gladly eat my words. Hell, we had people on here saying 8,500 was too big and they were foolish to put in that many seats, so...whatever.

I would not want it more than 8,500. If I had to move it one way by 1,000 seats it would be down versus - up.

I like a full arena with demand for the seats. The more availability, the less demand.

If I was in a bigger city, I'm want a bigger arena, but 8,500 in H-burg is plenty big.

Now football - I'd be more interested in increasing the size if we moved up. An hour from DC would have a bigger impact on football than basketball.

Paul Lewis commits to the Terps. they tried to steal Matt, but got Paul.

(09-28-2020 01:59 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(09-28-2020 01:22 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  If this (https://www.fueledbysports.com/largest-c...-arenas/3/) is accurate, that would put us around #135 in the nation. Not great, but honestly, I'd rather have a really nice arena that packs in people with the best quality seats, views, and amenities rather than building it too big. If we ever get to the point that we sell out over half of our games than I'll gladly eat my words. Hell, we had people on here saying 8,500 was too big and they were foolish to put in that many seats, so...whatever.

I would not want it more than 8,500. If I had to move it one way by 1,000 seats it would be down versus - up.

I like a full arena with demand for the seats. The more availability, the less demand.

If I was in a bigger city, I'm want a bigger arena, but 8,500 in H-burg is plenty big.

Now football - I'd be more interested in increasing the size if we moved up. An hour from DC would have a bigger impact on football than basketball.

Yep, JMU built it too big for seating capacity which which is a cardinal sin with construction money. You don’t build a church for Christmas and Easter crowds. Can/will JMU sell out for a game against UVA? Of course. Will they sell out any other games even if the team becomes very strong in 3 or 4 years? No.

College basketball attendance for mid majors requires much less seating capacity than people want to believe and continues to trend down 15% since 2008. Multiply that by the sparsely populated Shenandoah valley and we will see more empty seats than filled seats. Check out some average attendance figures for mid majors in small markets that have been consistently strong teams. This is probably the ceiling in the best of years
Charleston (CAA leader) 4,200
Ball State (MAC leader) 4,400
ODU (CUSA leader) 5,900
Louisiana (Sun Belt leader) 3,700
Bradley (MVC leader) 5,600
Montana (Big Sky leader) 4,000
E Tennessee St (SoCon leader) 5,200

A step up in conference to the A-10 wouldn’t justify it either.
The avg Atlantic 10 attendance = 4,800

It’s almost as if the seating capacity is entirely based on graduation needs! (As has been publicized)

Then we are set!!!! Get the sports fans and Duke Club Donors to fund a graduation hall. Brilliant.

Why are you acting like this is new information?

(09-28-2020 05:05 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(09-28-2020 01:59 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(09-28-2020 01:22 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  If this (https://www.fueledbysports.com/largest-c...-arenas/3/) is accurate, that would put us around #135 in the nation. Not great, but honestly, I'd rather have a really nice arena that packs in people with the best quality seats, views, and amenities rather than building it too big. If we ever get to the point that we sell out over half of our games than I'll gladly eat my words. Hell, we had people on here saying 8,500 was too big and they were foolish to put in that many seats, so...whatever.

I would not want it more than 8,500. If I had to move it one way by 1,000 seats it would be down versus - up.

I like a full arena with demand for the seats. The more availability, the less demand.

If I was in a bigger city, I'm want a bigger arena, but 8,500 in H-burg is plenty big.

Now football - I'd be more interested in increasing the size if we moved up. An hour from DC would have a bigger impact on football than basketball.

Yep, JMU built it too big for seating capacity which which is a cardinal sin with construction money. You don’t build a church for Christmas and Easter crowds. Can/will JMU sell out for a game against UVA? Of course. Will they sell out any other games even if the team becomes very strong in 3 or 4 years? No.

College basketball attendance for mid majors requires much less seating capacity than people want to believe and continues to trend down 15% since 2008. Multiply that by the sparsely populated Shenandoah valley and we will see more empty seats than filled seats. Check out some average attendance figures for mid majors in small markets that have been consistently strong teams. This is probably the ceiling in the best of years
Charleston (CAA leader) 4,200
Ball State (MAC leader) 4,400
ODU (CUSA leader) 5,900
Louisiana (Sun Belt leader) 3,700
Bradley (MVC leader) 5,600
Montana (Big Sky leader) 4,000
E Tennessee St (SoCon leader) 5,200

A step up in conference to the A-10 wouldn’t justify it either.
The avg Atlantic 10 attendance = 4,800

That said - we have averaged more than the attendance listed above when JMU and Harrisonburg were much smaller.

5000 or more was the norm for conference games in the early 80s and during the Lefty years. The Convo rocked. You did not want to miss a game and there were some great games played there.

(09-29-2020 06:57 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  5000 or more was the norm for conference games in the early 80s and during the Lefty years. The Convo rocked. You did not want to miss a game and there were some great games played there.

80 - 81 and 81 - 82 we would have dang near the number of fans attending equal the enrollment of JMU. Thus the reason I argue, yes, Lefty years were well attended, but there were double the number of students, therefore, the Campanelli years were even greater in relation to the size of the school. We could rock those bleachers in Godwin.

(09-30-2020 11:31 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(09-29-2020 06:57 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  5000 or more was the norm for conference games in the early 80s and during the Lefty years. The Convo rocked. You did not want to miss a game and there were some great games played there.

80 - 81 and 81 - 82 we would have dang near the number of fans attending equal the enrollment of JMU. Thus the reason I argue, yes, Lefty years were well attended, but there were double the number of students, therefore, the Campanelli years were even greater in relation to the size of the school. We could rock those bleachers in Godwin.

I hope we can get back to play soon, and also back to the kind of student attendance of those early years. I’ve heard a number of students share they’ll be attending because of the new arena, and it’s proximity to the new dorms. “New” is better, and the kids hated sitting in the nosebleed bleacher seats in the Convo.

(10-01-2020 05:24 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(09-30-2020 11:31 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(09-29-2020 06:57 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  5000 or more was the norm for conference games in the early 80s and during the Lefty years. The Convo rocked. You did not want to miss a game and there were some great games played there.

80 - 81 and 81 - 82 we would have dang near the number of fans attending equal the enrollment of JMU. Thus the reason I argue, yes, Lefty years were well attended, but there were double the number of students, therefore, the Campanelli years were even greater in relation to the size of the school. We could rock those bleachers in Godwin.

I hope we can get back to play soon, and also back to the kind of student attendance of those early years. I’ve heard a number of students share they’ll be attending because of the new arena, and it’s proximity to the new dorms. “New” is better, and the kids hated sitting in the nosebleed bleacher seats in the Convo.

I think we all know that attendance will not be back anytime soon with this new environment. I believe longer the virus drags on, the more effect it will have on attendance the 5 years following the Covid era.

Floor is down, hoops are in, center console is raised, banners up, seats in the lower bowl are all done - got an updated pic from my sis-in-law's dad.

it looks GOOOOOOOD.

jelly

Credit for these goes to Taylor in JMU 2.0.

My god. Can't wait to see some better photos but that is...nice. If that's what crappy phone photos look like, can't wait to see the 'tour' video/photos and see it in person.

It’s a purple paradise!

RIP whoever leaked that photo

looks DOPE

(10-15-2020 01:02 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  RIP whoever leaked that photo

looks DOPE

must be a few weeks old as I dont see hoop or floor