(05-14-2018 10:24 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 10:12 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 09:44 PM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 09:35 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 07:42 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Thanks for posting. I had not seen this yet. Love that we are going to add the same turf premier programs in the BSC feature. Also, I can't wait to see them pushing dirt for the new indoor practice facility. Love seeing North Texas continue to elevate our programs.

I know some on here have posted about how bigger P5 programs will knock C-USA programs back into obscurity after hiring away our quality coaches, but I don't see that happening at UNT. The improvements being made and the funding being committed should lure quality hires, and keep us competitive when we are finally poached. Just my opinion.

Must be nice having that extra money when you don't have to fund a baseball team. I'm glad your program is able to do these upgrades. However, the other programs in CUSA that have a baseball team should see compensation from your school, until you finally decide to have a baseball team.

This is the dumbest thing I've read on this site. Every school has it's advantages and disadvantages. Every school has it's own unique financial situations. I don't think many schools are funding their stadium via the athletic budget instead of some university fund. You just reinforce the stereotype of snobby LaTech fans who feel they are too good for the conference.

And this is the dumbest thing I've read on this site. Why should your school get privileges that over schools in CUSA don't have? Priority #1 should be to fund a baseball program and then you can continue with other endeavors. Until then you should be assessed a fine.

Nothing against UNT. Hell, I've been to games at Apogee when Tech wasn't even playing. I love having UNT in CUSA. However, you've been in this conference long enough to field a baseball team. I guess we will have to wait until the football team has a barbershop, and juice and smoothie bar before that will happen. The conference should force your school to do so. If not then go back to the Sunbelt. It's bush league that your school doesn't have a baseball team.

Now that's funny right there.

UNT really should be forced to fund a baseball team or leave. We're okay if you choose to leave. Just saying....playing the major sports should be required of all schools. It really does give UNT an advantage in other sports. This isn't something UNT can't do...UNT is a big school.

(05-14-2018 10:40 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 10:33 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 10:25 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 10:12 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 09:44 PM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  This is the dumbest thing I've read on this site. Every school has it's advantages and disadvantages. Every school has it's own unique financial situations. I don't think many schools are funding their stadium via the athletic budget instead of some university fund. You just reinforce the stereotype of snobby LaTech fans who feel they are too good for the conference.

And this is the dumbest thing I've read on this site. Why should your school get privileges that over schools in CUSA don't have? Priority #1 should be to fund a baseball program and then you can continue with other endeavors. Until then you should be assessed a fine.

Sure, cupcake. UNT will field a baseball team when certain CUSA programs bring their “sub-30,000 seat football stadiums” up to capacity. You know who you are.

Well at least our sub-30,000 stadium actually has fans. I was at your stadium when you played Marshall at home a couple years ago and the attendance was pathetic. The only time you can get a decent crowd is when Tech comes to play and that's because we bring so many fans. Doesn't matter how "big or nice" your stadium is when no one is at the game.

Once again, glad you're making improvements but the league should force your school to fund a baseball team first.

When you force WKU, Charlotte, and FIU to bring their stadiums up to minimum capacity, we’ll look into baseball. Until then, zip it about UNT baseball.

Psst: I wish we had baseball but the timing is just not right.

Why is that?

(05-14-2018 10:53 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 09:35 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 07:42 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 04:34 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  UNT is not content. Moving forward.

New Turf for Apogee

Thanks for posting. I had not seen this yet. Love that we are going to add the same turf premier programs in the BSC feature. Also, I can't wait to see them pushing dirt for the new indoor practice facility. Love seeing North Texas continue to elevate our programs.

I know some on here have posted about how bigger P5 programs will knock C-USA programs back into obscurity after hiring away our quality coaches, but I don't see that happening at UNT. The improvements being made and the funding being committed should lure quality hires, and keep us competitive when we are finally poached. Just my opinion.

Must be nice having that extra money when you don't have to fund a baseball team. I'm glad your program is able to do these upgrades. However, the other programs in CUSA that have a baseball team should see compensation from your school, until you finally decide to have a baseball team.

Maybe you should be forced to pay a fine until you fund a men's soccer program.

Cusa soccer is a better league than cusa baseball and some of our soccer programs have better attendance than la tech baseball.

There's something wrong with you Charlotte fans. You people just aren't right.

clt says you are asking too much of a small school like UNT to field football, baseball and soccer.

Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

(05-14-2018 10:42 PM)deb025 Wrote:  I don't care do what you want. I just think all schools in this league should have a Men's Football, Basketball and Baseball team at the minimum. That's my last post on this subject. Congrats on the upgrades.

I agree with you on ALL of these points!!!

(05-14-2018 11:01 PM)deb025 Wrote:  Bullshite. Nothing against soccer but nobody gives a damn about it. That's a secondary sport to Football, Baseball and Basketball. I highly doubt any CUSA soccer programs have better attendance than our baseball program.

But....

(05-14-2018 11:19 PM)deb025 Wrote:  Sure. I'm concentrated on Tech baseball right now. I'll worry about Tech football after the baseball season. Since your school doesn't have a baseball team, even though your school said you would, you can worry about....

... looks like we won’t get what we were promised.

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Tell that to Southern Miss or even DBU in UNT backyard who has in recent years fielded several top 25 squads. A good baseball team could have better attendance than basketball. Kinda short-sighted IMO

(05-15-2018 11:03 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Tell that to Southern Miss or even DBU in UNT backyard who has in recent years fielded several top 25 squads. A good baseball team could have better attendance than basketball. Kinda short-sighted IMO

Correct. But they don't have football at any level.

Personally, I think UNT will field a baseball team in 2-3 years.

(05-15-2018 11:15 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 11:03 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Tell that to Southern Miss or even DBU in UNT backyard who has in recent years fielded several top 25 squads. A good baseball team could have better attendance than basketball. Kinda short-sighted IMO

Correct. But they don't have football at any level.

Personally, I think UNT will field a baseball team in 2-3 years.

I hope you're right but I think it will be closer to 5 years.

(05-15-2018 12:12 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 10:24 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 10:12 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 09:44 PM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 09:35 PM)deb025 Wrote:  Must be nice having that extra money when you don't have to fund a baseball team. I'm glad your program is able to do these upgrades. However, the other programs in CUSA that have a baseball team should see compensation from your school, until you finally decide to have a baseball team.

This is the dumbest thing I've read on this site. Every school has it's advantages and disadvantages. Every school has it's own unique financial situations. I don't think many schools are funding their stadium via the athletic budget instead of some university fund. You just reinforce the stereotype of snobby LaTech fans who feel they are too good for the conference.

And this is the dumbest thing I've read on this site. Why should your school get privileges that over schools in CUSA don't have? Priority #1 should be to fund a baseball program and then you can continue with other endeavors. Until then you should be assessed a fine.

Nothing against UNT. Hell, I've been to games at Apogee when Tech wasn't even playing. I love having UNT in CUSA. However, you've been in this conference long enough to field a baseball team. I guess we will have to wait until the football team has a barbershop, and juice and smoothie bar before that will happen. The conference should force your school to do so. If not then go back to the Sunbelt. It's bush league that your school doesn't have a baseball team.

Now that's funny right there.

UNT really should be forced to fund a baseball team or leave. We're okay if you choose to leave. Just saying....playing the major sports should be required of all schools. It really does give UNT an advantage in other sports. This isn't something UNT can't do...UNT is a big school.

Wow... How about LA Tech be forced to raise their athletic budget or be forced to leave? Look, things will never be equal between all of our universities. That's just life. We all have different strengths and weaknesses.

Our last AD had planned to add baseball, and believe me, North Texas fans want baseball. But, I have yet to see anywhere where C-USA mandated we add baseball. In fact, North Texas replaced SMU in the Dallas/Fort Worth market, which was a non-baseball playing member of C-USA, and continues to not sponsor baseball in the AAC.

North Texas wins the western division in football, wins a post season basketball tournament, and improves facilities, and now some on here appear to be scheming of ways to neutralize our efforts. Some on here need to focus more on building their programs.

North Texas will not pay any fine, and will not be forced into fielding a baseball team until we decide to field a team. And, we will certainly not be forced out of C-USA. That is the truth of the situation. Those that want a level playing field are free to cut their baseball programs. That is your only option. I doubt C-USA would or could stop you.

I don't think UNT should be forced out at all. But it would be nice if you guys did start planning for a baseball team. Sometimes you need to do what's best for the conference as well. Is UNT the only team lacking a Baseball program?

(05-14-2018 10:24 PM)deb025 Wrote:  The conference should force your school to do so. If not then go back to the Sunbelt. It's bush league that your school doesn't have a baseball team.

Hey... Sun Belt tried to get to get UNT to start baseball...

Baseball generates more revenue than many think. The bad thing for UNT is that they will have to spend a few million just to build a baseball stadium... plus the costs of set up, oversight, staff, maintenance, etc.

So if UNT did start baseball, they'd most likely start out at a very small, local venue that lacks capacity and features. It won't be attractive for recruiting, and most likely UNT will not be very good for about 5-10 years... so do you still take UNT baseball and the potential drag it'll put on CUSA's RPI? Or just let them stay out of the baseball business?

(05-15-2018 09:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  I don't think UNT should be forced out at all. But it would be nice if you guys did start planning for a baseball team. Sometimes you need to do what's best for the conference as well. Is UNT the only team lacking a Baseball program?

The previous administration was pulling to restart our baseball program. However considering that we were dismal with our football and basketball program at the time, the new administration decided to get things to rights in those facilities and management before throwing money into a new sport. What would rather have? Another floundering football and basketball member starting a baseball program, or a strong football and basketball member starting a baseball program. I trust that our admin (at last) knows what they're doing.

(05-15-2018 09:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  I don't think UNT should be forced out at all. But it would be nice if you guys did start planning for a baseball team. Sometimes you need to do what's best for the conference as well. Is UNT the only team lacking a Baseball program?

No. UTEP doesn't have a baseball team either. IMO they also need to start a program asap. Here's an article from the El Paso Times about UTEP needing to start a program.

UTEP needs to step up to the plate and add a baseball team

(05-15-2018 10:45 PM)NTGreen Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 10:00 PM)deb025 Wrote:  [quote='Lizard Breath' pid='15299443' dateline='1526438918']
I don't think UNT should be forced out at all. But it would be nice if you guys did start planning for a baseball team. Sometimes you need to do what's best for the conference as well. Is UNT the only team lacking a Baseball program?

No. UTEP doesn't have a baseball team either. IMO they also need to start a program asap. Here's an article from the El Paso Times about UTEP needing to start a program.

UTEP needs to step up to the plate and add a baseball team

You're a fool, and are grasping at straws. I can't believe that this whole thing was started because UNT is replacing their turf, which if you read the article, is due to be replaced anyway.

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Obviously, you are not aware of the contingency to start baseball as a condition of membership to join the conference. FACT. You guys reneged and fortunately for UNT we have a weak commissioner that didn't put any teeth to any penalties. The conference didn't want associate members. You have a competitive advantage. No argument can be made to say you don't.

(05-15-2018 10:59 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Obviously, you are not aware of the contingency to start baseball as a condition of membership to join the conference. FACT. You guys reneged and fortunately for UNT we have a weak commissioner that didn't put any teeth to any penalties. The conference didn't want associate members. You have a competitive advantage. No argument can be made to say you don't.

This x 1000

(05-15-2018 09:59 PM)NTGreen Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 09:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  I don't think UNT should be forced out at all. But it would be nice if you guys did start planning for a baseball team. Sometimes you need to do what's best for the conference as well. Is UNT the only team lacking a Baseball program?

The previous administration was pulling to restart our baseball program. However considering that we were dismal with our football and basketball program at the time, the new administration decided to get things to rights in those facilities and management before throwing money into a new sport. What would rather have? Another floundering football and basketball member starting a baseball program, or a strong football and basketball member starting a baseball program. I trust that our admin (at last) knows what they're doing.

I think I'd rather have all of them. Baseball Football & BB. Just like everyone else. But I'm glad you're doing investments in your football program. That is never a negative thing.

(05-15-2018 10:59 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Obviously, you are not aware of the contingency to start baseball as a condition of membership to join the conference. FACT. You guys reneged and fortunately for UNT we have a weak commissioner that didn't put any teeth to any penalties. The conference didn't want associate members. You have a competitive advantage. No argument can be made to say you don't.

Show us the proof that baseball was required for us to join the conference? How is having a baseball program a competitive advantage for us? Y'all have already said how much money baseball makes (which I seriously doubt but if you say so) then baseball gives your programs an advantage and you probably should wish that we don't get a baseball program.

As pointed out above, we currently have no option for a baseball field. The entire program would have to be built from scratch including the stadium and practice facilities. If we really wanted to we could have a program for next spring but it would be playing and practicing a maybe a local high school field. It would be an awful program for maybe the first five years and a huge drag on everyone's RPI. Plus, it would split any conference money earned by one more team.

Y'all keep saying that not having baseball gives UNT a competitive advantage but every point made actually shows that not have baseball gives the rest of the conference a competitive advantage.

(05-16-2018 08:27 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 10:59 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Obviously, you are not aware of the contingency to start baseball as a condition of membership to join the conference. FACT. You guys reneged and fortunately for UNT we have a weak commissioner that didn't put any teeth to any penalties. The conference didn't want associate members. You have a competitive advantage. No argument can be made to say you don't.

Show us the proof that baseball was required for us to join the conference? How is having a baseball program a competitive advantage for us? Y'all have already said how much money baseball makes (which I seriously doubt but if you say so) then baseball gives your programs an advantage and you probably should wish that we don't get a baseball program.

As pointed out above, we currently have no option for a baseball field. The entire program would have to be built from scratch including the stadium and practice facilities. If we really wanted to we could have a program for next spring but it would be playing and practicing a maybe a local high school field. It would be an awful program for maybe the first five years and a huge drag on everyone's RPI. Plus, it would split any conference money earned by one more team.

Y'all keep saying that not having baseball gives UNT a competitive advantage but every point made actually shows that not have baseball gives the rest of the conference a competitive advantage.

Yeah. That doesn't fly. We don't have a stadium. We DO have a team.