(05-09-2018 01:39 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 12:01 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 10:56 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 10:26 AM)doberman1 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:48 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  Didn't see where they had UCF on the schedule?

That was 2016 in the Cure Bowl.

https://youtu.be/V_KYbDz7tJw

It was a comment about UCF claiming to be National Champions. I don't mind the claim, considering they beat Auburn who beat Alabama, and never got the chance to see what their undefeated record meant.

You do know when Alabama played Auburn, Auburn's star RB was injured was never the same. It is why they lost to Georgia(2nd time they played that year). After the loss in the SEC Championship game, Auburn had nothing to play for and was down their star player. Teams that lose the SEC title game usually lose the Sugar bowl in recent years.

Are you an Auburn fan? No one asked you to rationalize it. If you want the hardware, or to not be the butt end of a joke, win.

What he is saying is absolutely true. When you consider whether a team is "the best in the country", you consider everything. I really don't think UCF would have beaten Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma, or Georgia. Using the Auburn win to justify a place a in the CFP is to completely ignore the dynamics of college football teams throughout the season, and use only Auburn's #7 paper rating.

(05-08-2018 10:15 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:50 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:44 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  We have away games @ NC State, Memphis, Troy, Ark State, App St. and ULL. Tough schedule indeed

GSU will likely trend in the direction App did with the jump to FBS. The years with Elliot will be a realization of what was envisioned with the kick starting of a football program. Won't be surprised if you hang tight with NC State.

Only if we had Shawn Elliott right after Bill Curry retired....our stupid former AD Cheryl Levick hired Trent Miles, who recruited FCS guys to play FBS ball. After last offseason, I think all of Miles' recruits either no longer play or transferred down to FCS schools.

edit: Upon further thoughts, Miles recruited well at WR. Albert Wilson, Robert Davis, and Penny Hart were a bunch of unknown nobodies. He just missed a lot in most other positions.

Think I'd give it a few more years before nominating Elliott for the coaching HOF.

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(05-09-2018 10:44 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  You assume the the number of FBS caliber football players have kept pace the last ten years not dilute the FCS talent level. I know some programs especially in the southeast that would disagree.

The number of G5 programs from VA to Texas is up 30%+ since 2008.

Some of the metro areas in those states have had better than 30% increase in population in the last 20 years. Most are on the order of 100% to 300%. The time period really goes back to UAB in 1990-1991. You take Atlanta which has had a 300% increase in population since the 80s. That is also going to play out as way more FBS players than 30 to 35 years ago.

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(05-09-2018 02:09 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 10:15 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:50 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:44 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  We have away games @ NC State, Memphis, Troy, Ark State, App St. and ULL. Tough schedule indeed

GSU will likely trend in the direction App did with the jump to FBS. The years with Elliot will be a realization of what was envisioned with the kick starting of a football program. Won't be surprised if you hang tight with NC State.

Only if we had Shawn Elliott right after Bill Curry retired....our stupid former AD Cheryl Levick hired Trent Miles, who recruited FCS guys to play FBS ball. After last offseason, I think all of Miles' recruits either no longer play or transferred down to FCS schools.

edit: Upon further thoughts, Miles recruited well at WR. Albert Wilson, Robert Davis, and Penny Hart were a bunch of unknown nobodies. He just missed a lot in most other positions.

Think I'd give it a few more years before nominating Elliott for the coaching HOF.

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That's not what anyone is saying.

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(05-09-2018 03:08 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 10:44 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  You assume the the number of FBS caliber football players have kept pace the last ten years not dilute the FCS talent level. I know some programs especially in the southeast that would disagree.

The number of G5 programs from VA to Texas is up 30%+ since 2008.

Some of the metro areas in those states have had better than 30% increase in population in the last 20 years. Most are on the order of 100% to 300%. The time period really goes back to UAB in 1990-1991. You take Atlanta which has had a 300% increase in population since the 80s. That is also going to play out as way more FBS players than 30 to 35 years ago.

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Holy move the goal posts. 30-35 years? I'm talking about the addition of FBS programs over a 10 year period.

(05-09-2018 03:08 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 02:09 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 10:15 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:50 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:44 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  We have away games @ NC State, Memphis, Troy, Ark State, App St. and ULL. Tough schedule indeed

GSU will likely trend in the direction App did with the jump to FBS. The years with Elliot will be a realization of what was envisioned with the kick starting of a football program. Won't be surprised if you hang tight with NC State.

Only if we had Shawn Elliott right after Bill Curry retired....our stupid former AD Cheryl Levick hired Trent Miles, who recruited FCS guys to play FBS ball. After last offseason, I think all of Miles' recruits either no longer play or transferred down to FCS schools.

edit: Upon further thoughts, Miles recruited well at WR. Albert Wilson, Robert Davis, and Penny Hart were a bunch of unknown nobodies. He just missed a lot in most other positions.

Think I'd give it a few more years before nominating Elliott for the coaching HOF.

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Reading some of the comments from GA St and some App Fans Elliot is right up there with Bear Bryant.

(05-09-2018 03:45 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 03:08 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 10:44 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  You assume the the number of FBS caliber football players have kept pace the last ten years not dilute the FCS talent level. I know some programs especially in the southeast that would disagree.

The number of G5 programs from VA to Texas is up 30%+ since 2008.

Some of the metro areas in those states have had better than 30% increase in population in the last 20 years. Most are on the order of 100% to 300%. The time period really goes back to UAB in 1990-1991. You take Atlanta which has had a 300% increase in population since the 80s. That is also going to play out as way more FBS players than 30 to 35 years ago.

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Holy move the goal posts. 30-35 years? I'm talking about the addition of FBS programs over a 10 year period.

The move of programs to FBS started with UAB. The southern population boom started in the early 80s. The universities that benefited did so starting in the 90s because the migrant kids became college aged. But even in the last ten years Atlanta has added 1M people. I am sure Dallas and Houston have had similar increases and that has meant more FBS players than 10, 20, 40 years ago.

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(05-09-2018 04:33 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 03:08 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 02:09 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 10:15 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:50 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  GSU will likely trend in the direction App did with the jump to FBS. The years with Elliot will be a realization of what was envisioned with the kick starting of a football program. Won't be surprised if you hang tight with NC State.

Only if we had Shawn Elliott right after Bill Curry retired....our stupid former AD Cheryl Levick hired Trent Miles, who recruited FCS guys to play FBS ball. After last offseason, I think all of Miles' recruits either no longer play or transferred down to FCS schools.

edit: Upon further thoughts, Miles recruited well at WR. Albert Wilson, Robert Davis, and Penny Hart were a bunch of unknown nobodies. He just missed a lot in most other positions.

Think I'd give it a few more years before nominating Elliott for the coaching HOF.

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Reading some of the comments from GA St and some App Fans Elliot is right up there with Bear Bryant.

Who has said anything even close to that or can you not read? A comparison was made to the prior coach. Holy made up ish.

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Lots of made up stuff going around.

The influx of FBS schools has had an impact on SE FCS schools. We could break down the demographics of population growth and various other metrics and it wouldn’t change your mind on a subject that hopefully doesn’t impact either of our schools directly.

Just another subject we’ll agree to disagree on, however progress was made you didn’t resort to emojis and attempted to have a logical discussion. Excellent work.

How do we get Georgia Southern two years in a row at home??


I think our schedule is brutal and understand why it's ranked so high for toughness. I see the only definite win coming against a Campbell Camels school I didn't realize even played football; otherwise, the competition is tough week in and week out with non-conference foes like UAB and Mass being much improved from last year:

Sat, Sept 1
@ South Carolina

Sat, Sept 8
vs. UAB

Sat, Sept 15
vs. Campbell

Sat, Sept 22
@Louisiana

Sat, Sept 29
@Troy

Sat, Oct 13
vs. UL Monroe

Sat, Oct 20
@ UMass

Sat, Oct 27
@Georgia State

Sat, Nov 3
vs. Appalachian St

Sat, Nov 10
vs. Arkansas State

Sat, Nov 17
vs. Ga Southern

Sat, Nov 24
@ South Alabama

(05-08-2018 10:15 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  edit: Upon further thoughts, Miles recruited well at WR. Albert Wilson, Robert Davis, and Penny Hart were a bunch of unknown nobodies. He just missed a lot in most other positions.

Albert Wilson was recruited by Bill Curry, class of 2010.

(05-09-2018 08:04 PM)El Chanto Wrote:  How do we get Georgia Southern two years in a row at home??

The same reason we get stAte 2 years in a row at home.

It's your fault (kinda) plus divisions for the championship game.

Bringing you in shuffled the schedule last year, and it shuffled again for the division matchups this year. Some of these quirks resulted. It's only for this year though to balance out home/away moving forward in the conference schedule.

(05-09-2018 08:04 PM)El Chanto Wrote:  How do we get Georgia Southern two years in a row at home??


I think our schedule is brutal and understand why it's ranked so high for toughness. I see the only definite win coming against a Campbell Camels school I didn't realize even played football; otherwise, the competition is tough week in and week out with non-conference foes like UAB and Mass being much improved from last year:

Sat, Sept 1
@ South Carolina

Sat, Sept 8
vs. UAB

Sat, Sept 15
vs. Campbell

Sat, Sept 22
@Louisiana

Sat, Sept 29
@Troy

Sat, Oct 13
vs. UL Monroe

Sat, Oct 20
@ UMass

Sat, Oct 27
@Georgia State

Sat, Nov 3
vs. Appalachian St

Sat, Nov 10
vs. Arkansas State

Sat, Nov 17
vs. Ga Southern

Sat, Nov 24
@ South Alabama

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(05-09-2018 11:57 PM)GSUPanther96 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 10:15 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  edit: Upon further thoughts, Miles recruited well at WR. Albert Wilson, Robert Davis, and Penny Hart were a bunch of unknown nobodies. He just missed a lot in most other positions.

Albert Wilson was recruited by Bill Curry, class of 2010.

You and your faces. :)

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(05-09-2018 04:33 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 03:08 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 02:09 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 10:15 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:50 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  GSU will likely trend in the direction App did with the jump to FBS. The years with Elliot will be a realization of what was envisioned with the kick starting of a football program. Won't be surprised if you hang tight with NC State.

Only if we had Shawn Elliott right after Bill Curry retired....our stupid former AD Cheryl Levick hired Trent Miles, who recruited FCS guys to play FBS ball. After last offseason, I think all of Miles' recruits either no longer play or transferred down to FCS schools.

edit: Upon further thoughts, Miles recruited well at WR. Albert Wilson, Robert Davis, and Penny Hart were a bunch of unknown nobodies. He just missed a lot in most other positions.

Think I'd give it a few more years before nominating Elliott for the coaching HOF.

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Reading some of the comments from GA St and some App Fans Elliot is right up there with Bear Bryant.

Elliot took a struggling GSU squad, injected some energy, some coaching ability, and most importantly, the belief that winning is possible, and overachieved last season. No one is anointing him, but people are being realistic in suggesting multiple things: the arrow is pointing up, he is a better coach than Miles, he is a better recruiter than Miles, he knows the Atlanta area and Georgia recruiting trail better than Miles.

If you watched any GSU games aside from the one against App last season, you would see why people are high on GSU now, especially when comparing the visual aspect of the team now versus when Miles was coaching. The evidence is in how the team plays, and the results in the final league standings.

(05-09-2018 05:07 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 04:33 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 03:08 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 02:09 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 10:15 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Only if we had Shawn Elliott right after Bill Curry retired....our stupid former AD Cheryl Levick hired Trent Miles, who recruited FCS guys to play FBS ball. After last offseason, I think all of Miles' recruits either no longer play or transferred down to FCS schools.

edit: Upon further thoughts, Miles recruited well at WR. Albert Wilson, Robert Davis, and Penny Hart were a bunch of unknown nobodies. He just missed a lot in most other positions.

Think I'd give it a few more years before nominating Elliott for the coaching HOF.

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That's not what anyone is saying.

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Reading some of the comments from GA St and some App Fans Elliot is right up there with Bear Bryant.

Who has said anything even close to that or can you not read? A comparison was made to the prior coach. Holy made up ish.

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Dude may have some sour grapes with Elliot. Some people here are fairly well connected to the inner workings of the program, from back in the days when things were still relatively small. It's possible for some individuals to have some direct personal stories with coaches due to that fact, and the fact that the 90's, when Elliot and Satterfield were playing, wasn't too long ago; I believe Withers was also at App in the 90's.

At any rate, for some people, anyone not currently connected to App, and made a deal with the devil in Charlie Cobb (the devil DID go down to Georgia, and he was Charlie), may be causing issues in perceived allegiance by some.

(05-10-2018 06:23 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 08:04 PM)El Chanto Wrote:  How do we get Georgia Southern two years in a row at home??

The same reason we get stAte 2 years in a row at home.

It's your fault (kinda) plus divisions for the championship game.

Bringing you in shuffled the schedule last year, and it shuffled again for the division matchups this year. Some of these quirks resulted. It's only for this year though to balance out home/away moving forward in the conference schedule.

Coastal actually has a really nice home line up this year. Would expect to see more butts in the seats if they are competitive; and i'm hoping tickets with App in town aren't $100 a seat. To get Arkansas State, App, and Southern all at home, two years removed from playing in the Big South, is a great improvement.