(04-14-2018 02:48 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 02:37 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 02:33 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 10:00 AM)panite Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 07:18 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I'll never understand the love for UMass in some quarters of the AAC fanbase... They are a total mooch program; they want the $$$ and exposure that FBS and the AAC would bring but have historically invested next-to-nothing in their sports and bring next-to-nothing in return. New Hampshire or Delaware would be better additions and partners but you don't hear anyone pining over them.

UMass would be so far down my list of "expansion candidates" that if the American adds them, I'd say it's just time to close up shop because that means we're beyond desperate.

New Hampshire and Delaware do not want to move up though so they are out. The AAC can merely schedule games with UMASS especially for FB and BB without taking them into the conference while they make the improvements that need to be made. Close members like UCONN, Temple, an Navy could rotate them through their schedules for FB, and the schools of greater distance could rotate them regionally.

NE - Temple and UCONN - 1 game between them a year.
Mid Atlantic /Tide Region - Navy and ECU - 1 game a year.
Florida - UCF and USF - 1 game a year.
Midwest and SE - CINN, Memphis, Tulane - 1 game a year.
SW - SMU, Houston, and Tulsa - 1 game a year.

This gives UMASS the potential for 5 games a year without a scheduling agreement until the next realignment phase passes through. Gives the AAC a chance to see if UMASS is committed to improving their facilities and team at the D-1 level for possible future inclusion. I would think that Temple and UCONN would want another NE member to cut their travel costs.

I have no need for Navy to play UMass.
We have zero spots on our schedule -- if you assume we continue using a final home game, FCS game to share the wealth with our Patriot League friends. If we weren't doing that, better Delaware than UMass. If you tell me it can't be Patriot League or Delaware (maybe "FBS only")....then I would go for bigger matchups (in recent years Ohio State, Penn State, South Carolina) that we no longer get since giving up independence. If you tell me to think regionally, then Pitt and Rutgers are among those we've played a lot and who bring big crowds.
UMass? Nope.

I personally can't wait to play you guys in the near future!

What is that now? '21/'22? Jack Lengyel storyline should help build interest

And George Chaump left Marshall for Navy in 1989. We do have a little history. And we are one of the better traveling fanbases as well. We should bring quite a few fans.

Umass in the AAC...?, hmmm, could be worth it, go to the game way up north and then have some great lobster and make it a feast!
Bar-b-Q lobster anybody ?!

(04-14-2018 10:10 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 08:55 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 07:42 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 10:17 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

I like UMass but until their administration makes major facility improvements the AAC won't take them serious.

Why, I do not understand? There is a major gulf between Houston v. Mass football and basketball. Why would you want to travel across the US to play an inconsequential game. As a Cincy fan, I would want Rice before Umass. Rice at least has academics and a natural rivalry with Houston. However, other than Byu, Boise, and a few other Mwc teams, I prefer to split the checks with no one.

I think Big went to UMASS right? Biggie? Or I’m thinking of someone else on here but that’s where the Umass love comes from. I myself am always intrigued by a state Flagship joining as most state flagships are in the cartel already but UMASS only makes sense for Uconn and that’s already a problem (A conference stretching from Connecticut to Texas)

I dont understand how can many of you here overlook the importance in adding additional Northeast presence.

(04-14-2018 04:11 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 10:10 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 08:55 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 07:42 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 10:17 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

I like UMass but until their administration makes major facility improvements the AAC won't take them serious.

Why, I do not understand? There is a major gulf between Houston v. Mass football and basketball. Why would you want to travel across the US to play an inconsequential game. As a Cincy fan, I would want Rice before Umass. Rice at least has academics and a natural rivalry with Houston. However, other than Byu, Boise, and a few other Mwc teams, I prefer to split the checks with no one.

I think Big went to UMASS right? Biggie? Or I’m thinking of someone else on here but that’s where the Umass love comes from. I myself am always intrigued by a state Flagship joining as most state flagships are in the cartel already but UMASS only makes sense for Uconn and that’s already a problem (A conference stretching from Connecticut to Texas)

I dont understand how can many of you here overlook the importance in adding additional Northeast presence.

Because it’s not great for the 10 members located in the South.
And Wichita St

(04-14-2018 04:16 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 04:11 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 10:10 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 08:55 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 07:42 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  I like UMass but until their administration makes major facility improvements the AAC won't take them serious.

Why, I do not understand? There is a major gulf between Houston v. Mass football and basketball. Why would you want to travel across the US to play an inconsequential game. As a Cincy fan, I would want Rice before Umass. Rice at least has academics and a natural rivalry with Houston. However, other than Byu, Boise, and a few other Mwc teams, I prefer to split the checks with no one.

I think Big went to UMASS right? Biggie? Or I’m thinking of someone else on here but that’s where the Umass love comes from. I myself am always intrigued by a state Flagship joining as most state flagships are in the cartel already but UMASS only makes sense for Uconn and that’s already a problem (A conference stretching from Connecticut to Texas)

I dont understand how can many of you here overlook the importance in adding additional Northeast presence.

Because it’s not great for the 10 members located in the South.

It's not good for any of the 13.

If they were to hire Dick Pitino, I might consider...

They've been pretty competitive in football even though their record doesn't speak for it.
The basketball program is competitive they r a good fit,
games at Gillette Stadium

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

(04-14-2018 04:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  They've been pretty competitive in football even though their record doesn't speak for it.
The basketball program is competitive they r a good fit,
games at Gillette Stadium

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

Their basketball program hasn't been competitive since Calipari left.

They are a good fit institutionally but need to show a real commitment to athletics that they've shown no indication of being willing to or capable of.

(04-14-2018 10:00 AM)panite Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 07:18 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I'll never understand the love for UMass in some quarters of the AAC fanbase... They are a total mooch program; they want the $$$ and exposure that FBS and the AAC would bring but have historically invested next-to-nothing in their sports and bring next-to-nothing in return. New Hampshire or Delaware would be better additions and partners but you don't hear anyone pining over them.

UMass would be so far down my list of "expansion candidates" that if the American adds them, I'd say it's just time to close up shop because that means we're beyond desperate.

New Hampshire and Delaware do not want to move up though so they are out. The AAC can merely schedule games with UMASS especially for FB and BB without taking them into the conference while they make the improvements that need to be made. Close members like UCONN, Temple, an Navy could rotate them through their schedules for FB, and the schools of greater distance could rotate them regionally.

NE - Temple and UCONN - 1 game between them a year.
Mid Atlantic /Tide Region - Navy and ECU - 1 game a year.
Florida - UCF and USF - 1 game a year.
Midwest and SE - CINN, Memphis, Tulane - 1 game a year.
SW - SMU, Houston, and Tulsa - 1 game a year.

This gives UMASS the potential for 5 games a year without a scheduling agreement until the next realignment phase passes through. Gives the AAC a chance to see if UMASS is committed to improving their facilities and team at the D-1 level for possible future inclusion. I would think that Temple and UCONN would want another NE member to cut their travel costs.

No, no and no.

If they bring in an extra 2m/per school in the next contract, I'm for it. Otherwise, no.

(04-14-2018 06:42 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  I'm positioning myself to be America's Next Top Model.

I'm positioning myself to make Beyonce divorce Jay-Z and marry me. She's positioning her hands over her mouth.

(04-14-2018 06:53 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  If they bring in an extra 2m/per school in the next contract, I'm for it. Otherwise, no.

No sense of going past 12

They had their chance and have been dismissed. They don't add really much of anything to the current construction of the AAC.

(04-14-2018 07:59 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  They had their chance and have been dismissed. They don't add really much of anything to the current conscrtruction of the AAC.

They didn’t have their chance, UMASS was never considered ever for AAC membership.

(04-14-2018 08:24 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 07:59 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  They had their chance and have been dismissed. They don't add really much of anything to the current conscrtruction of the AAC.

They didn’t have their chance, UMASS was never considered ever for AAC membership.

Exactly.... it was never meant to be.

To be fair, I've never seen a flagship state university treated so poorly by their state. Connecticut made UCONN a priority. Massachusetts has treated UMass like North Carolina treats ECU.

(04-14-2018 08:32 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  To be fair, I've never seen a flagship state university treated so poorly by their state. Connecticut made UCONN a priority. Massachusetts has treated UMass like North Carolina treats ECU.

Hahaha..yeah

Getting the flagship of the 15th most populous state in Union would obviously have huge potential.

But UMASS would obviously need to agree to vast financial investments to improve their programs. Currently 17k is a sellout for football and the basketball program has had only a few noticeable years sans Calipari.

If UMASS administration agrees to certain benchmarks I think they'd be worth the add and potential catchment area.

(04-15-2018 12:18 AM)STL_Wave Wrote:  Getting the flagship of the 15th most populous state in Union would obviously have huge potential.

But UMASS would obviously need to agree to vast financial investments to improve their programs. Currently 17k is a sellout for football and the basketball program has had only a few noticeable years sans Calipari.

If UMASS administration agrees to certain benchmarks I think they'd be worth the add and potential catchment area.

ODU already sells out a 21K seat stadium every game. Better recruiting area too. Umass doesn't make any sense at the present time unless they build a nice stadium and become decent. It doesn't work the way they want....Invite us and we will later invest in our program.

Going passed 12 of going to take something really special with a candidate. Unless it is a BYU type, I don't see it happening.