You don’t pass on hiring Larry Brown as an assistant coach period end of report

(04-15-2018 10:20 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 11:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 12:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 12:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I thought it was common knowledge that Penny had Brown's back when they were both with the Knicks. I have no issue at all with Penny's judgement and I have no issue at all with the admin if they decide to hire Brown.

Penny wants to bring him in as a mentor for the Tiger players, as much as a teacher. You laughed at the idea of LB as a mentor.

What if LB is hired as an Assistant later down the road?

He has been busted 3 times. Shouldn't mentoring come from a role model?

What did he do that was so bad?

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

Stop right there.

That was 30 years ago.

Today's NCAA would never ban Kansas now, or UCLA.

In today's NCAA, Larry Brown would not have been busted at Kansas or UCLA.

So, that leaves one, SMU.

Where a girlfriend did her boyfriends homework?

Hell, that was probably the first time that a girlfriend/friend did a student athlete's homework and it probably doesn't happen at a lot of schools with a lot of players. *sarcasm

(04-15-2018 11:08 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  You don’t pass on hiring Larry Brown as an assistant coach period end of report

I’m thankful jams and the gang don’t run the athletic department...

(04-15-2018 11:00 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Maybe UCLA although I disagree.
Can’t dismiss KU.
SMU is a weird situation.

Whether we like it or not, it should be concerning that Brown apparently didn’t have control of what happened under him at 3 different programs. I don’t believe that’s the case. Brown is culpable and we can not dismiss him as being completely unaware of what was going on.

The only thing they can really pin on him is the Askew deal. And tha wasn’t that bad. Give the man a chance.

You mean he should be given a chance like Houston gave Kelvin Sampson? Kelvin Sampson who had a 5 YEAR show cause order imposed against him? Kelvin Sampson who took a sub .500 Houston team and has averaged 20 wins a season?

Kelvin Sampson who makes Larry Brown look like a choir boy but holds a head coaching position in the same conference as the Tigers?

How dare you even suggest that Larry Brown be treated as such?

(04-15-2018 11:00 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Maybe UCLA although I disagree.
Can’t dismiss KU.
SMU is a weird situation.

Whether we like it or not, it should be concerning that Brown apparently didn’t have control of what happened under him at 3 different programs. I don’t believe that’s the case. Brown is culpable and we can not dismiss him as being completely unaware of what was going on.

The only thing they can really pin on him is the Askew deal. And tha wasn’t that bad. Give the man a chance.

Oh my
So Larry had no idea about the other infractions?

If the admins want to give him a chance, then sure. But to dismiss their concerns as foolish is short sighted IMO

(04-15-2018 11:08 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  You don’t pass on hiring Larry Brown as an assistant coach period end of report

Yes sir yes
SMH

(04-15-2018 11:08 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:20 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 11:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 12:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Penny wants to bring him in as a mentor for the Tiger players, as much as a teacher. You laughed at the idea of LB as a mentor.

What if LB is hired as an Assistant later down the road?

He has been busted 3 times. Shouldn't mentoring come from a role model?

What did he do that was so bad?

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

Stop right there.

That was 30 years ago.

Today's NCAA would never ban Kansas now, or UCLA.

In today's NCAA, Larry Brown would not have been busted at Kansas or UCLA.

So, that leaves one, SMU.

Where a girlfriend did her boyfriends homework?

Hell, that was probably the first time that a girlfriend/friend did a student athlete's homework and it probably doesn't happen at a lot of schools with a lot of players. *sarcasm

Well yeah that was 30 years ago cuz that’s the last time he coached college before SMU. That’s a huge assumption on your part that KU wouldnt get nailed now if such infractions were found. USC got nailed in football recently. UNC maybe God’s gift to basketball since they somehow did skate free but KU isn’t seen that way. Anyways, Brown can’t keep himself clean for whatever reason. Bad luck, lack of diligence perhaps, etc - either way it’s foolish to dismiss what has happened as meh.

(04-15-2018 12:00 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 11:08 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:20 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 11:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  He has been busted 3 times. Shouldn't mentoring come from a role model?

What did he do that was so bad?

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

Stop right there.

That was 30 years ago.

Today's NCAA would never ban Kansas now, or UCLA.

In today's NCAA, Larry Brown would not have been busted at Kansas or UCLA.

So, that leaves one, SMU.

Where a girlfriend did her boyfriends homework?

Hell, that was probably the first time that a girlfriend/friend did a student athlete's homework and it probably doesn't happen at a lot of schools with a lot of players. *sarcasm

Well yeah that was 30 years ago cuz that’s the last time he coached college before SMU. That’s a huge assumption on your part that KU wouldnt get nailed now if such infractions were found. USC got nailed in football recently. UNC maybe God’s gift to basketball since they somehow did skate free but KU isn’t seen that way. Anyways, Brown can’t keep himself clean for whatever reason. Bad luck, lack of diligence perhaps, etc - either way it’s foolish to dismiss what has happened as meh.

Darrell Arthur, and others, beg to differ.

Has there ever been a HC that took another HC or AC spot in the same conference while the school he came from was still on probation?


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(04-15-2018 01:02 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Has there ever been a HC that took another HC or AC spot in the same conference while the school he came from was still on probation?


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Let's make history!

Keep in mind, SMU wanted to keep Brown. He left SMU on his own.

Outside of the fan base, not everyone may feel that way though


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(04-15-2018 12:29 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 12:00 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 11:08 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:20 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  What did he do that was so bad?

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

Stop right there.

That was 30 years ago.

Today's NCAA would never ban Kansas now, or UCLA.

In today's NCAA, Larry Brown would not have been busted at Kansas or UCLA.

So, that leaves one, SMU.

Where a girlfriend did her boyfriends homework?

Hell, that was probably the first time that a girlfriend/friend did a student athlete's homework and it probably doesn't happen at a lot of schools with a lot of players. *sarcasm

Well yeah that was 30 years ago cuz that’s the last time he coached college before SMU. That’s a huge assumption on your part that KU wouldnt get nailed now if such infractions were found. USC got nailed in football recently. UNC maybe God’s gift to basketball since they somehow did skate free but KU isn’t seen that way. Anyways, Brown can’t keep himself clean for whatever reason. Bad luck, lack of diligence perhaps, etc - either way it’s foolish to dismiss what has happened as meh.

Darrell Arthur, and others, beg to differ.

Umm no
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...id=3527008

Who else?

(04-15-2018 11:33 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 11:00 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Maybe UCLA although I disagree.
Can’t dismiss KU.
SMU is a weird situation.

Whether we like it or not, it should be concerning that Brown apparently didn’t have control of what happened under him at 3 different programs. I don’t believe that’s the case. Brown is culpable and we can not dismiss him as being completely unaware of what was going on.

The only thing they can really pin on him is the Askew deal. And tha wasn’t that bad. Give the man a chance.

You mean he should be given a chance like Houston gave Kelvin Sampson? Kelvin Sampson who had a 5 YEAR show cause order imposed against him? Kelvin Sampson who took a sub .500 Houston team and has averaged 20 wins a season?

Kelvin Sampson who makes Larry Brown look like a choir boy but holds a head coaching position in the same conference as the Tigers?

How dare you even suggest that Larry Brown be treated as such?

+2 amen

(04-15-2018 12:00 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 11:08 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:20 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 11:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  He has been busted 3 times. Shouldn't mentoring come from a role model?

What did he do that was so bad?

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

Stop right there.

That was 30 years ago.

Today's NCAA would never ban Kansas now, or UCLA.

In today's NCAA, Larry Brown would not have been busted at Kansas or UCLA.

So, that leaves one, SMU.

Where a girlfriend did her boyfriends homework?

Hell, that was probably the first time that a girlfriend/friend did a student athlete's homework and it probably doesn't happen at a lot of schools with a lot of players. *sarcasm

Well yeah that was 30 years ago cuz that’s the last time he coached college before SMU. That’s a huge assumption on your part that KU wouldnt get nailed now if such infractions were found. USC got nailed in football recently. UNC maybe God’s gift to basketball since they somehow did skate free but KU isn’t seen that way. Anyways, Brown can’t keep himself clean for whatever reason. Bad luck, lack of diligence perhaps, etc - either way it’s foolish to dismiss what has happened as meh.

I’m not saying dismiss anything. Sure he got caught up in some scandalous activities. But he will not be head coach and won’t have the final say on things. All I’m saying is give him a chance.

(04-15-2018 02:11 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 12:00 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 11:08 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:20 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  What did he do that was so bad?

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

Stop right there.

That was 30 years ago.

Today's NCAA would never ban Kansas now, or UCLA.

In today's NCAA, Larry Brown would not have been busted at Kansas or UCLA.

So, that leaves one, SMU.

Where a girlfriend did her boyfriends homework?

Hell, that was probably the first time that a girlfriend/friend did a student athlete's homework and it probably doesn't happen at a lot of schools with a lot of players. *sarcasm

Well yeah that was 30 years ago cuz that’s the last time he coached college before SMU. That’s a huge assumption on your part that KU wouldnt get nailed now if such infractions were found. USC got nailed in football recently. UNC maybe God’s gift to basketball since they somehow did skate free but KU isn’t seen that way. Anyways, Brown can’t keep himself clean for whatever reason. Bad luck, lack of diligence perhaps, etc - either way it’s foolish to dismiss what has happened as meh.

I’m not saying dismiss anything. Sure he got caught up in some scandalous activities. But he will not be head coach and won’t have the final say on things. All I’m saying is give him a chance.

And that’s fair and reasonable. Unlike you, there are folks who claim that the admins and fans who are weary of Brown are foolish and don’t have any valid reasons.

(04-15-2018 02:22 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 02:11 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 12:00 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 11:08 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:20 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

Stop right there.

That was 30 years ago.

Today's NCAA would never ban Kansas now, or UCLA.

In today's NCAA, Larry Brown would not have been busted at Kansas or UCLA.

So, that leaves one, SMU.

Where a girlfriend did her boyfriends homework?

Hell, that was probably the first time that a girlfriend/friend did a student athlete's homework and it probably doesn't happen at a lot of schools with a lot of players. *sarcasm

Well yeah that was 30 years ago cuz that’s the last time he coached college before SMU. That’s a huge assumption on your part that KU wouldnt get nailed now if such infractions were found. USC got nailed in football recently. UNC maybe God’s gift to basketball since they somehow did skate free but KU isn’t seen that way. Anyways, Brown can’t keep himself clean for whatever reason. Bad luck, lack of diligence perhaps, etc - either way it’s foolish to dismiss what has happened as meh.

I’m not saying dismiss anything. Sure he got caught up in some scandalous activities. But he will not be head coach and won’t have the final say on things. All I’m saying is give him a chance.

And that’s fair and reasonable. Unlike you, there are folks who claim that the admins and fans who are weary of Brown are foolish and don’t have any valid reasons.

+2 thanks for not being like most of the rest when there’s a disagreement.

(04-15-2018 11:10 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I’m thankful jams and the gang don’t run the athletic department...

If Larry Brown is hired as an AC will you delete your account and never post here again?

(04-15-2018 10:20 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 11:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 12:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-13-2018 12:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I thought it was common knowledge that Penny had Brown's back when they were both with the Knicks. I have no issue at all with Penny's judgement and I have no issue at all with the admin if they decide to hire Brown.

Penny wants to bring him in as a mentor for the Tiger players, as much as a teacher. You laughed at the idea of LB as a mentor.

What if LB is hired as an Assistant later down the road?

He has been busted 3 times. Shouldn't mentoring come from a role model?

What did he do that was so bad?

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

The KU infractions are not all listed in that article. For instance, Askew received $1200+ from Brown and 3 boosters. And there were other smaller infractions as well at KU. Its surprising folks dismiss that he was able to get 2 prestigious programs into probation when the NCAA usually doesn’t come down as hard on such programs. KU almost got the death penalty in this case and are the only program that had to suffer the humiliation of being unable to defend its own championship cuz of a ban.

(04-15-2018 11:35 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 11:10 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I’m thankful jams and the gang don’t run the athletic department...

If Larry Brown is hired as an AC will you delete your account and never post here again?

^^^^