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(04-14-2018 02:19 AM)HoopsGal Wrote:  If our admin “vetted” Brown and accepted him, then they are corrupt and insane. I hope it’s not true. He is a terrible idea. He should not accept any offer from an NCAA program if it comes up if he values his own chance at a decent future, free of past baggage. He doesn’t need the money and ought to care more about Penny if he’s such pals than to drag him down during an NCAA probe by the FBI or any other time. I’m disappointed to hear it’s even being considered. These rumors must be being promoted by gossipmonger Calkins. I wish he would get a life and get out of fan forums if he is in here anonymously and stop trying to control the future by his incessant yapping.

What rumors? Rumors that Penny has been on multiple interviews saying he would like LB as an AC? Rumors that LB has been on interviews saying he would like to come help Penny as an AC? Dang that Calkins!
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Sorry if the truth hurts, Geoff. We don’t need media trying to promote any agenda for a college, let alone a corrupt agenda, (nor by misusing social media to do it either). Disgusting.
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(04-14-2018 03:10 AM)HoopsGal Wrote:  Sorry if the truth hurts, Geoff. We don’t need media trying to promote any agenda for a college, let alone a corrupt agenda, (nor by misusing social media to do it either). Disgusting.

What rumors?
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Nice try to distract from the point, Geoff. I know you want the thread to become about you thanks to your ego but the thread is not about the side note of rumors spread by Calkins in this forum to get people used to the idea of Brown coming here as acceptable, sort of like how the CA beat the drum in its paper for weeks about Penny coming here when Tubby was fighting to get a 20+ win season. Tubby in reality didn’t do enough to stay here given the dire straits of attendance so I am ok with Penny stepping in, who has no bad past. But now promoting the notion of Brown coming is a freakin’ bridge too far.

My comment however, despite your tangent, was not about who is promoting this idea; it’s simply that bringing Brown here is a bad idea for Penny, Brown and the school.
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(04-14-2018 03:28 AM)HoopsGal Wrote:  Nice try to distract from the point, Geoff. I know you want the thread to become about you thanks to your ego but it’s not about the side note of rumors spread by Calkins in this forum to get people used to the idea of Brown coming here as acceptable, sort of like how the CA beat the drum in its paper for weeks about Penny coming here when Tubby was fighting to get a 20+ win season. Tubby in reality didn’t do enough to stay here given the dire straits of attendance so I am ok with Penny stepping in, who has no bad past. But now promoting the notion of Brown coming is a freakin’ bridge too far.

Even though that is what Penny wants, the new HC. Shouldn't he get to choose his own staff? The Tub was able to hire his worthless son, why can't Penny hire who he wants as well?
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(04-14-2018 03:29 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 03:28 AM)HoopsGal Wrote:  Nice try to distract from the point, Geoff. I know you want the thread to become about you thanks to your ego but it’s not about the side note of rumors spread by Calkins in this forum to get people used to the idea of Brown coming here as acceptable, sort of like how the CA beat the drum in its paper for weeks about Penny coming here when Tubby was fighting to get a 20+ win season. Tubby in reality didn’t do enough to stay here given the dire straits of attendance so I am ok with Penny stepping in, who has no bad past. But now promoting the notion of Brown coming is a freakin’ bridge too far.

Even though that is what Penny wants, the new HC. Shouldn't he get to choose his own staff? The Tub was able to hire his worthless son, why can't Penny hire who he wants as well?

Penny is not the last word on hiring. The school has to prevent the appearance of any atmosphere conducive to ethics violations. What does Tubby’s son have to do with it? The issue is Brown has a history of NCAA ethics violations. Penny doesn’t yet, nor does Tubby’s son, so why do you throw the kitchen sink at me trying to distract from the obvious elephant in the room? (The elephant is Brown’s past violations, to spell it out.)

Talking to you is like talking to a child.

“Why can’t Baby have his lollipop? Baby wants his lollipop! WAAH.”

“Junior, because it’s caked with cow pooh pooh. Stop picking up candy that’s been in a cow pasture, Junior!”

“Baby wants his lollipop!”

Grow up. We don’t need this hassle. If Penny has no judgment, as you insist he can only see Brown as the way to a future, then that’s too bad. And you don’t need to promote this notion. It doesn’t help Penny or Brown either one. If Brown wants to help Penny he can point him to a good assistant coach. That would be the act of a friend.
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(04-14-2018 03:45 AM)HoopsGal Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 03:29 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 03:28 AM)HoopsGal Wrote:  Nice try to distract from the point, Geoff. I know you want the thread to become about you thanks to your ego but it’s not about the side note of rumors spread by Calkins in this forum to get people used to the idea of Brown coming here as acceptable, sort of like how the CA beat the drum in its paper for weeks about Penny coming here when Tubby was fighting to get a 20+ win season. Tubby in reality didn’t do enough to stay here given the dire straits of attendance so I am ok with Penny stepping in, who has no bad past. But now promoting the notion of Brown coming is a freakin’ bridge too far.

Even though that is what Penny wants, the new HC. Shouldn't he get to choose his own staff? The Tub was able to hire his worthless son, why can't Penny hire who he wants as well?

Penny is not the last word on hiring. The school has to prevent the appearance of any atmosphere conducive to ethics violations. What does Tubby’s son have to do with it? The issue is Brown has a history of NCAA ethics violations. Penny doesn’t yet, nor does Tubby’s son, so why do you throw the kitchen sink at me trying to distract from the obvious elephant in the room? (The elephant is Brown’s past violations, to spell it out.)

Talking to you is like talking to a child.

“Why can’t Baby have his lollipop? Baby wants his lollipop! WAAH.”

“Junior, because it’s caked with cow pooh pooh. Stop picking up candy that’s been in a cow pasture, Junior!”

“Baby wants his lollipop!”

Grow up. We don’t need this hassle. If Penny has no judgment, as you insist he can only see Brown as the way to a future, then that’s too bad. And you don’t need to promote this notion. It doesn’t help Penny or Brown either one. If Brown wants to help Penny he can point him to a good assistant coach. That would be the act of a friend.

Triggered? Meltdown? Seems like you are the one who can't have a discussion without breaking down.. So basically either believe what you tell us to believe or we are babies? Got it.

I am all for hiring Brown if that is who Penny chooses as his AC.
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I’m sorry you are melting down over my rejecting your notion that Brown is the only way to a future, Geoff. You keep coming back to respond to me constantly as though there is no topic to talk about but mine. You seem utterly invested in bringing Brown here as though there is a paycheck in it somewhere for you personally. And you’re not helping Penny, the school or Brown by pushing this word-twisting mission of bringing Brown here with your every post.

If Brown is Penny’s friend, he will help him find a suitable assistant. Coming here himself is bad for Brown, Penny and the school.

Penny is green as a college coach. I hope slick, unscrupulous advisors like you don’t exploit his lack of experience and take Penny down when he is just beginning a promising college coaching career. He needs strong support from the university’s compliance arm to help guide him away from pitfalls pushed by advisors willing to cut corners to reach a mirage goal whose rewards will vanish the second we wind up with violations.

Also it’s hard to do everything right anyway. If someone investigated your every breath almost anyone could be found to be in violation which is why you don’t want to invite even more heightened scrutiny.
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LB is okay'd to be the Head Coach of ANY NCAA institution....Not ONLY that, he was offered a contract by SMU to continue as head coach there but turned the offer down..... Larry Brown is revered by NBA and college professionals alike and has HOF cred....He has a reputation to uphold; could be a mentor to help guide " misguided" youth to a more productive/promising future! The city of MEMPHIS desperately needs as MANY mentors as it can hold, as well as Coach Penny sees immense value in the wisdom; knowledge and insight of Coach Brown.....The fact that LB can inform and instruct what NOT to do is invaluable in itself...

Of prominent basketball coaches, which do your revere? Self;R. Williams; Coach K; Pearl; Wooten; Calipari; Izzo; Boeheim? Well, NONE of these leaders are beyond reproach!

The tone that you spew with emanates a "personal" vindictive note....there is no reason to judge....Even "Mr. Clean Jean" Pastner is currently mired in scandal.....whether a percent or all or even none may be factual....Whom are WE to judge? 03-shhhh


Don't buy in to the rhetoric that this is negative press....Memphis basketball has NOT been relevant for almost a decade! Now with the assistance of coach Hardaway; Nike; and assemblance of a potent staff....the basketball world is shocked, as this was Unfathomable months prior. No one could see The TUBB being drained after ONLY two seasons.....


But a new regime has taken over and taken off! These times are extremely exciting and Coach Hardaway is @ the helm....Support his vision, that's why he's a legend, legends make legendary moments in their existence.... It's NOT always concise to those of us whom do not possess this gift....

Peace and blessings to you and your health....thank you for chiming in.....Judge NOT, lest ye be judged
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(04-14-2018 09:00 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  LB is okay'd to be the Head Coach of ANY NCAA institution....Not ONLY that, he was offered a contract by SMU to continue as head coach there but turned the offer down..... Larry Brown is revered by NBA and college professionals alike and has HOF cred....He has a reputation to uphold; could be a mentor to help guide " misguided" youth to a more productive/promising future! The city of MEMPHIS desperately needs as MANY mentors as it can hold, as well as Coach Penny sees immense value in the wisdom; knowledge and insight of Coach Brown.....The fact that LB can inform and instruct what NOT to do is invaluable in itself...

Of prominent basketball coaches, which do your revere? Self;R. Williams; Coach K; Pearl; Wooten; Calipari; Izzo; Boeheim? Well, NONE of these leaders are beyond reproach!

The tone that you spew with emanates a "personal" vindictive note....there is no reason to judge....Even "Mr. Clean Jean" Pastner is currently mired in scandal.....whether a percent or all or even none may be factual....Whom are WE to judge? 03-shhhh


Don't buy in to the rhetoric that this is negative press....Memphis basketball has NOT been relevant for almost a decade! Now with the assistance of coach Hardaway; Nike; and assemblance of a potent staff....the basketball world is being shock as this was Unfathomable months prior. No one could see The TUBB being drained after ONLY two seasons.....


But a new regime has taken over and taken off! These times are extremely exciting and Coach Hardaway is @ the helm....Support his vision, that's why he's a legend, legends make legendary moments in their existence.... It's NOT always concise to those of us whom do not possess this gift....

Peace and blessings to you and your health....thank you for chiming in.....Judge lest NOT ye be judged

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I'd like to see LB as an assistant coach for at least the first 3 years of Penny's tenure.
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In fact, side 2 of Ride the Lightning is possibly the best thrash metal "side" of all time.

And the first side ain't bad either.

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(04-13-2018 11:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 11:56 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Influencing mentor. Haha.

Why do you think Penny likes him so much? You question his judgement so forcefully.

I thought it was common knowledge that Penny had Brown's back when they were both with the Knicks. I have no issue at all with Penny's judgement and I have no issue at all with the admin if they decide to hire Brown.

Penny wants to bring him in as a mentor for the Tiger players, as much as a teacher. You laughed at the idea of LB as a mentor.

What if LB is hired as an Assistant later down the road?

He has been busted 3 times. Shouldn't mentoring come from a role model?

What did he do that was so bad?
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(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 11:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Why do you think Penny likes him so much? You question his judgement so forcefully.

I thought it was common knowledge that Penny had Brown's back when they were both with the Knicks. I have no issue at all with Penny's judgement and I have no issue at all with the admin if they decide to hire Brown.

Penny wants to bring him in as a mentor for the Tiger players, as much as a teacher. You laughed at the idea of LB as a mentor.

What if LB is hired as an Assistant later down the road?

He has been busted 3 times. Shouldn't mentoring come from a role model?

What did he do that was so bad?

You mean aside from getting a show cause?
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(04-14-2018 09:51 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I'd like to see LB as an assistant coach for at least the first 3 years of Penny's tenure.

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(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 11:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Why do you think Penny likes him so much? You question his judgement so forcefully.

I thought it was common knowledge that Penny had Brown's back when they were both with the Knicks. I have no issue at all with Penny's judgement and I have no issue at all with the admin if they decide to hire Brown.

Penny wants to bring him in as a mentor for the Tiger players, as much as a teacher. You laughed at the idea of LB as a mentor.

What if LB is hired as an Assistant later down the road?

He has been busted 3 times. Shouldn't mentoring come from a role model?

What did he do that was so bad?

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

The KU infractions are not all listed in that article. For instance, Askew received $1200+ from Brown and 3 boosters. And there were other smaller infractions as well at KU. Its surprising folks dismiss that he was able to get 2 prestigious programs into probation when the NCAA usually doesn’t come down as hard on such programs. KU almost got the death penalty in this case and are the only program that had to suffer the humiliation of being unable to defend its own championship cuz of a ban.
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(04-15-2018 10:20 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(04-15-2018 10:12 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 11:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 12:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I thought it was common knowledge that Penny had Brown's back when they were both with the Knicks. I have no issue at all with Penny's judgement and I have no issue at all with the admin if they decide to hire Brown.

Penny wants to bring him in as a mentor for the Tiger players, as much as a teacher. You laughed at the idea of LB as a mentor.

What if LB is hired as an Assistant later down the road?

He has been busted 3 times. Shouldn't mentoring come from a role model?

What did he do that was so bad?

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/11/sport...again.html

That’s a national article from 1988.

The KU infractions are not all listed in that article. For instance, Askew received $1200+ from Brown and 3 boosters. And there were other smaller infractions as well at KU. Its surprising folks dismiss that he was able to get 2 prestigious programs into probation when the NCAA usually doesn’t come down as hard on such programs. KU almost got the death penalty in this case and are the only program that had to suffer the humiliation of being unable to defend its own championship cuz of a ban.

Really, I completely discount UCLA. Sam Gilbert was a booster for 24 years and had more power than Gene Bartow or Larry Brown. The NCAA was going to start the investigation during the Gene Bartow years and was somehow delayed, otherwise it would have been Bartow getting hit.
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Maybe UCLA although I disagree.
Can’t dismiss KU.
SMU is a weird situation.

Whether we like it or not, it should be concerning that Brown apparently didn’t have control of what happened under him at 3 different programs. I don’t believe that’s the case. Brown is culpable and we can not dismiss him as being completely unaware of what was going on.
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(04-15-2018 10:45 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Maybe UCLA although I disagree.
Can’t dismiss KU.
SMU is a weird situation.

Whether we like it or not, it should be concerning that Brown apparently didn’t have control of what happened under him at 3 different programs. I don’t believe that’s the case. Brown is culpable and we can not dismiss him as being completely unaware of what was going on.

The only thing they can really pin on him is the Askew deal. And tha wasn’t that bad. Give the man a chance.
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