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(04-04-2018 09:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 07:27 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  It's near impossible to find 6'4" 320 lb. nose tackles at the high school level that are also athletic. Those types get snatched up by the Alabamas of the world way before MAC teams can get in to talk to them. So we gotta work with what we got.

We've got decent size at the position (Aguirre 6'1" 300, French 6'5" 300, Finley 6'2" 290, Williams 6'3" 290, Holley 6'2" 280, Taylor 6'2" 295), just need to build technique, conditioning and intensity. And most importantly, stay healthy!

Surce we can say that DT is a weakness for the team, but every MAC team can say that.

Toledo is loaded at DT, but they are young. That group includes Derrius Mullins and Tyrone Chambers, each 6'5" 325 lbs.

Ah yes, good ole Tyrone Chambers who couldn't decide where he wanted to play and ended up at Toledo in the end. It will be interesting to see what the Broncos missed out on.

(04-04-2018 11:20 AM)WMUPorter Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 09:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 07:27 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  It's near impossible to find 6'4" 320 lb. nose tackles at the high school level that are also athletic. Those types get snatched up by the Alabamas of the world way before MAC teams can get in to talk to them. So we gotta work with what we got.

We've got decent size at the position (Aguirre 6'1" 300, French 6'5" 300, Finley 6'2" 290, Williams 6'3" 290, Holley 6'2" 280, Taylor 6'2" 295), just need to build technique, conditioning and intensity. And most importantly, stay healthy!

Surce we can say that DT is a weakness for the team, but every MAC team can say that.

Toledo is loaded at DT, but they are young. That group includes Derrius Mullins and Tyrone Chambers, each 6'5" 325 lbs.

Ah yes, good ole Tyrone Chambers who couldn't decide where he wanted to play and ended up at Toledo in the end. It will be interesting to see what the Broncos missed out on.

Holley, Lance, Guillory, Aguirre, and Finley were all three stars out of HS.

Chambers and the three DTs UT brought in the last two years are all 3 stars as well.

Until we actually see them we don’t know who’s loaded.

(04-03-2018 09:55 PM)Doo Wrote:  Spoken like a true Michigan man. RR’s record would’ve been the same if it was a 4-3, 3-4, or any other defense.

I don’t think that the scheme for an entire phase of the game is irrelevant. The personnel for each scheme can be quite different. You have to have exceptional players to beat an MSU or Ohio State or Wisconsin run game with a nickel defense.

Any coach has to know a radical change in scheme is going to be a tough transition. RR blew up both sides of the ball. He could of done things to smooth the transition, but he’s clearly a man with severe impulse control problems and narcissistic tendencies. You don’t blow up a solid program like that and expect institutional confidence to recover.

We took our lumps switching to our current scheme, but it worked in the long run against the teams we had to beat to be champs, so it was worth it. We were purposely modeled after a successful MAC program. Now it’s a bit rough switching to a more aggressive style.

Scheme matters!

Of course it matters. But it had little to do with Rich Rod failing at U of M.

(04-04-2018 01:29 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 09:55 PM)Doo Wrote:  Spoken like a true Michigan man. RR’s record would’ve been the same if it was a 4-3, 3-4, or any other defense.

I don’t think that the scheme for an entire phase of the game is irrelevant. The personnel for each scheme can be quite different. You have to have exceptional players to beat an MSU or Ohio State or Wisconsin run game with a nickel defense.

Any coach has to know a radical change in scheme is going to be a tough transition. RR blew up both sides of the ball. He could of done things to smooth the transition, but he’s clearly a man with severe impulse control problems and narcissistic tendencies. You don’t blow up a solid program like that and expect institutional confidence to recover.

We took our lumps switching to our current scheme, but it worked in the long run against the teams we had to beat to be champs, so it was worth it. We were purposely modeled after a successful MAC program. Now it’s a bit rough switching to a more aggressive style.

Scheme matters!

Michigan was a paper tiger by the time RR got there. Carr was semi-retired and wanted to leave and had to be begged to stay by Martin, which also showed up in his 2006-07 recruiting classes.

Rich Rod wasn’t a Michigan man. Once they got Hoke and Harbsugh they had a lock on 3rd place in the PIG East Div.

(04-05-2018 05:47 PM)bronconick Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:29 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 09:55 PM)Doo Wrote:  Spoken like a true Michigan man. RR’s record would’ve been the same if it was a 4-3, 3-4, or any other defense.

I don’t think that the scheme for an entire phase of the game is irrelevant. The personnel for each scheme can be quite different. You have to have exceptional players to beat an MSU or Ohio State or Wisconsin run game with a nickel defense.

Any coach has to know a radical change in scheme is going to be a tough transition. RR blew up both sides of the ball. He could of done things to smooth the transition, but he’s clearly a man with severe impulse control problems and narcissistic tendencies. You don’t blow up a solid program like that and expect institutional confidence to recover.

We took our lumps switching to our current scheme, but it worked in the long run against the teams we had to beat to be champs, so it was worth it. We were purposely modeled after a successful MAC program. Now it’s a bit rough switching to a more aggressive style.

Scheme matters!

Michigan was a paper tiger by the time RR got there. Carr was semi-retired and wanted to leave and had to be begged to stay by Martin, which also showed up in his 2006-07 recruiting classes.

A semi-retired Lloyd Carr would have been more competent than RichRod. Dan Enos would have done a better job, by far. How is a 9-4 team that beat Tim Tebow in Florida—returning a NFL QB—a paper tiger?

How can that man have any defenders or excuses left after he disgraced two programs in a row? Ball don’t lie.

(04-05-2018 08:21 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  

(04-05-2018 05:47 PM)bronconick Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:29 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 09:55 PM)Doo Wrote:  Spoken like a true Michigan man. RR’s record would’ve been the same if it was a 4-3, 3-4, or any other defense.

I don’t think that the scheme for an entire phase of the game is irrelevant. The personnel for each scheme can be quite different. You have to have exceptional players to beat an MSU or Ohio State or Wisconsin run game with a nickel defense.

Any coach has to know a radical change in scheme is going to be a tough transition. RR blew up both sides of the ball. He could of done things to smooth the transition, but he’s clearly a man with severe impulse control problems and narcissistic tendencies. You don’t blow up a solid program like that and expect institutional confidence to recover.

We took our lumps switching to our current scheme, but it worked in the long run against the teams we had to beat to be champs, so it was worth it. We were purposely modeled after a successful MAC program. Now it’s a bit rough switching to a more aggressive style.

Scheme matters!

Michigan was a paper tiger by the time RR got there. Carr was semi-retired and wanted to leave and had to be begged to stay by Martin, which also showed up in his 2006-07 recruiting classes.

A semi-retired Lloyd Carr would have been more competent than RichRod. Dan Enos would have done a better job, by far. How is a 9-4 team that beat Tim Tebow in Florida—returning a NFL QB—a paper tiger?

How can that man have any defenders or excuses left after he disgraced two programs in a row? Ball don’t lie.

I felt Ricrod was a flaming a-hole from day one. There was just something about the guy that came across phony and superficial. Recruits must have seen it as well.

(04-05-2018 08:21 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  

(04-05-2018 05:47 PM)bronconick Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:29 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 09:55 PM)Doo Wrote:  Spoken like a true Michigan man. RR’s record would’ve been the same if it was a 4-3, 3-4, or any other defense.

I don’t think that the scheme for an entire phase of the game is irrelevant. The personnel for each scheme can be quite different. You have to have exceptional players to beat an MSU or Ohio State or Wisconsin run game with a nickel defense.

Any coach has to know a radical change in scheme is going to be a tough transition. RR blew up both sides of the ball. He could of done things to smooth the transition, but he’s clearly a man with severe impulse control problems and narcissistic tendencies. You don’t blow up a solid program like that and expect institutional confidence to recover.

We took our lumps switching to our current scheme, but it worked in the long run against the teams we had to beat to be champs, so it was worth it. We were purposely modeled after a successful MAC program. Now it’s a bit rough switching to a more aggressive style.

Scheme matters!

Michigan was a paper tiger by the time RR got there. Carr was semi-retired and wanted to leave and had to be begged to stay by Martin, which also showed up in his 2006-07 recruiting classes.

A semi-retired Lloyd Carr would have been more competent than RichRod. Dan Enos would have done a better job, by far. How is a 9-4 team that beat Tim Tebow in Florida—returning a NFL QB—a paper tiger?

How can that man have any defenders or excuses left after he disgraced two programs in a row? Ball don’t lie.

He might have won 4 or 5 in 2008 instead of RR's 3. He stopped working. Michigan was in for pain no matter who they hired or if he had stayed. I just watched this in Tallahassee in 2017.