News came out earlier today of a new pro football league starting in 2019 immediately after the NFL season is complete.

For now, we can safely assume the league won't be as profitable or popular as the NFL anytime soon, but I do find some of their practices interesting and it makes me think they might stick around for a while rather than folding like so many secondary leagues have.

They apparently have plenty of investors and are willing to try this thing out for 7-10 years to see how it goes. They will start small and I'm sure allow the market to dictate their growth. They also already have a TV deal with CBS which I find interesting.

Anyway, I find these points interesting:

Quote:Like McMahon, Ebersol said the success of the league will live and die with good football, something that he thinks is achievable.

"There are 28,000 Division I football players. Only 1,700 have NFL jobs," Ebersol said. "We're looking for those Kurt Warners working in grocery stores, and we think we will find them."

The eight teams in cities that will be announced in the next three months will start by having regional drafts, protecting eligible players who played in the local community for their college days.

No doubt, the player pool will be guys who haven't cut it at the NFL level. The question for me is, what impact will that have on the college ranks?

There are plenty of decent players out there, but how many more guys might jump early to the NFL knowing they have a little extra cushion should they not make it at the top ranks?

What will the dynamic be as far as coaching goes? Will experienced or up and coming coaches at the college level view the AAF as a promotion?

And a slightly more ancillary question...

If this league ends up being somewhat popular then will it take attention away from other college sports like basketball and baseball?

(03-20-2018 07:29 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  News came out earlier today of a new pro football league starting in 2019 immediately after the NFL season is complete.

For now, we can safely assume the league won't be as profitable or popular as the NFL anytime soon, but I do find some of their practices interesting and it makes me think they might stick around for a while rather than folding like so many secondary leagues have.

They apparently have plenty of investors and are willing to try this thing out for 7-10 years to see how it goes. They will start small and I'm sure allow the market to dictate their growth. They also already have a TV deal with CBS which I find interesting.

Anyway, I find these points interesting:

Quote:Like McMahon, Ebersol said the success of the league will live and die with good football, something that he thinks is achievable.

"There are 28,000 Division I football players. Only 1,700 have NFL jobs," Ebersol said. "We're looking for those Kurt Warners working in grocery stores, and we think we will find them."

The eight teams in cities that will be announced in the next three months will start by having regional drafts, protecting eligible players who played in the local community for their college days.

No doubt, the player pool will be guys who haven't cut it at the NFL level. The question for me is, what impact will that have on the college ranks?

There are plenty of decent players out there, but how many more guys might jump early to the NFL knowing they have a little extra cushion should they not make it at the top ranks?

What will the dynamic be as far as coaching goes? Will experienced or up and coming coaches at the college level view the AAF as a promotion?

And a slightly more ancillary question...

If this league ends up being somewhat popular then will it take attention away from other college sports like basketball and baseball?

Hundreds of college players never have the chance to even try out for the NFL. College football is a success all over America and they are not NFL level games. I say go for it. Place the new league in cities without an existing team. Seems like these new leagues always place teams in Philly, New York, LA, etc. Bad business plan. How about OK City, Memphis, St Louis, Birmingham, Salt Lake City, etc.

It's good for players, good for old unwanted coaches and probably a promotion tool for some young G5 coaches. I don't think it will have any impact at all on the P5 coaching jobs which will all be paying more than most of these jobs.

(03-20-2018 07:36 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:29 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  News came out earlier today of a new pro football league starting in 2019 immediately after the NFL season is complete.

For now, we can safely assume the league won't be as profitable or popular as the NFL anytime soon, but I do find some of their practices interesting and it makes me think they might stick around for a while rather than folding like so many secondary leagues have.

They apparently have plenty of investors and are willing to try this thing out for 7-10 years to see how it goes. They will start small and I'm sure allow the market to dictate their growth. They also already have a TV deal with CBS which I find interesting.

Anyway, I find these points interesting:

Quote:Like McMahon, Ebersol said the success of the league will live and die with good football, something that he thinks is achievable.

"There are 28,000 Division I football players. Only 1,700 have NFL jobs," Ebersol said. "We're looking for those Kurt Warners working in grocery stores, and we think we will find them."

The eight teams in cities that will be announced in the next three months will start by having regional drafts, protecting eligible players who played in the local community for their college days.

No doubt, the player pool will be guys who haven't cut it at the NFL level. The question for me is, what impact will that have on the college ranks?

There are plenty of decent players out there, but how many more guys might jump early to the NFL knowing they have a little extra cushion should they not make it at the top ranks?

What will the dynamic be as far as coaching goes? Will experienced or up and coming coaches at the college level view the AAF as a promotion?

And a slightly more ancillary question...

If this league ends up being somewhat popular then will it take attention away from other college sports like basketball and baseball?

Hundreds of college players never have the chance to even try out for the NFL. College football is a success all over America and they are not NFL level games. I say go for it. Place the new league in cities without an existing team. Seems like these new leagues always place teams in Philly, New York, LA, etc. Bad business plan. How about OK City, Memphis, St Louis, Birmingham, Salt Lake City, etc.

That is what the CFL tried with its failed US expansion. People always seem to downplay the loyalty to the uniform when coming up with the AAA football leagues.

(03-21-2018 02:58 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:36 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:29 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  News came out earlier today of a new pro football league starting in 2019 immediately after the NFL season is complete.

For now, we can safely assume the league won't be as profitable or popular as the NFL anytime soon, but I do find some of their practices interesting and it makes me think they might stick around for a while rather than folding like so many secondary leagues have.

They apparently have plenty of investors and are willing to try this thing out for 7-10 years to see how it goes. They will start small and I'm sure allow the market to dictate their growth. They also already have a TV deal with CBS which I find interesting.

Anyway, I find these points interesting:

Quote:Like McMahon, Ebersol said the success of the league will live and die with good football, something that he thinks is achievable.

"There are 28,000 Division I football players. Only 1,700 have NFL jobs," Ebersol said. "We're looking for those Kurt Warners working in grocery stores, and we think we will find them."

The eight teams in cities that will be announced in the next three months will start by having regional drafts, protecting eligible players who played in the local community for their college days.

No doubt, the player pool will be guys who haven't cut it at the NFL level. The question for me is, what impact will that have on the college ranks?

There are plenty of decent players out there, but how many more guys might jump early to the NFL knowing they have a little extra cushion should they not make it at the top ranks?

What will the dynamic be as far as coaching goes? Will experienced or up and coming coaches at the college level view the AAF as a promotion?

And a slightly more ancillary question...

If this league ends up being somewhat popular then will it take attention away from other college sports like basketball and baseball?

Hundreds of college players never have the chance to even try out for the NFL. College football is a success all over America and they are not NFL level games. I say go for it. Place the new league in cities without an existing team. Seems like these new leagues always place teams in Philly, New York, LA, etc. Bad business plan. How about OK City, Memphis, St Louis, Birmingham, Salt Lake City, etc.

That is what the CFL tried with its failed US expansion. People always seem to downplay the loyalty to the uniform when coming up with the AAA football leagues.

Americans did not identify with a league started by another country.

(03-21-2018 02:20 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:58 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:36 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:29 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  News came out earlier today of a new pro football league starting in 2019 immediately after the NFL season is complete.

For now, we can safely assume the league won't be as profitable or popular as the NFL anytime soon, but I do find some of their practices interesting and it makes me think they might stick around for a while rather than folding like so many secondary leagues have.

They apparently have plenty of investors and are willing to try this thing out for 7-10 years to see how it goes. They will start small and I'm sure allow the market to dictate their growth. They also already have a TV deal with CBS which I find interesting.


Anyway, I find these points interesting:

Quote:Like McMahon, Ebersol said the success of the league will live and die with good football, something that he thinks is achievable.

"There are 28,000 Division I football players. Only 1,700 have NFL jobs," Ebersol said. "We're looking for those Kurt Warners working in grocery stores, and we think we will find them."

The eight teams in cities that will be announced in the next three months will start by having regional drafts, protecting eligible players who played in the local community for their college days.

No doubt, the player pool will be guys who haven't cut it at the NFL level. The question for me is, what impact will that have on the college ranks?

There are plenty of decent players out there, but how many more guys might jump early to the NFL knowing they have a little extra cushion should they not make it at the top ranks?

What will the dynamic be as far as coaching goes? Will experienced or up and coming coaches at the college level view the AAF as a promotion?

And a slightly more ancillary question...

If this league ends up being somewhat popular then will it take attention away from other college sports like basketball and baseball?

Hundreds of college players never have the chance to even try out for the NFL. College football is a success all over America and they are not NFL level games. I say go for it. Place the new league in cities without an existing team. Seems like these new leagues always place teams in Philly, New York, LA, etc. Bad business plan. How about OK City, Memphis, St Louis, Birmingham, Salt Lake City, etc.

That is what the CFL tried with its failed US expansion. People always seem to downplay the loyalty to the uniform when coming up with the AAA football leagues.

Americans did not identify with a league started by another country.

Well in the 70's Americans didn't identify with the World Football League, and in the 80's they didn't identify with the United States Football League, and since they haven't really identified with Arena Football either.

My suspicion here is that we all tend to be traditionalists and Spring and Summer football just isn't going to get an audience when the American psyche is attuned to Basketball and then Baseball / Softball. I think we want our Football in the Fall and over with as soon as possible after the New Year.

(03-21-2018 02:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:20 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:58 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:36 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:29 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  News came out earlier today of a new pro football league starting in 2019 immediately after the NFL season is complete.

For now, we can safely assume the league won't be as profitable or popular as the NFL anytime soon, but I do find some of their practices interesting and it makes me think they might stick around for a while rather than folding like so many secondary leagues have.

They apparently have plenty of investors and are willing to try this thing out for 7-10 years to see how it goes. They will start small and I'm sure allow the market to dictate their growth. They also already have a TV deal with CBS which I find interesting.


Anyway, I find these points interesting:


No doubt, the player pool will be guys who haven't cut it at the NFL level. The question for me is, what impact will that have on the college ranks?

There are plenty of decent players out there, but how many more guys might jump early to the NFL knowing they have a little extra cushion should they not make it at the top ranks?

What will the dynamic be as far as coaching goes? Will experienced or up and coming coaches at the college level view the AAF as a promotion?

And a slightly more ancillary question...

If this league ends up being somewhat popular then will it take attention away from other college sports like basketball and baseball?

Hundreds of college players never have the chance to even try out for the NFL. College football is a success all over America and they are not NFL level games. I say go for it. Place the new league in cities without an existing team. Seems like these new leagues always place teams in Philly, New York, LA, etc. Bad business plan. How about OK City, Memphis, St Louis, Birmingham, Salt Lake City, etc.

That is what the CFL tried with its failed US expansion. People always seem to downplay the loyalty to the uniform when coming up with the AAA football leagues.

Americans did not identify with a league started by another country.

Well in the 70's Americans didn't identify with the World Football League, and in the 80's they didn't identify with the United States Football League, and since they haven't really identified with Arena Football either.

My suspicion here is that we all tend to be traditionalists and Spring and Summer football just isn't going to get an audience when the American psyche is attuned to Basketball and then Baseball / Softball. I think we want our Football in the Fall and over with as soon as possible after the New Year.

But we all line up to watch those spring games. lol I think there is a place for it if done correctly. I am never ready for football to be over.

Very few of these league have had a lot of financial backing. I actually prefer McMahons traveling circus style league over the traditional this our cities team. With that said. These leagues better have streamed games and sometype of fantasy game attached to it.

(03-21-2018 08:32 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:20 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:58 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:36 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Hundreds of college players never have the chance to even try out for the NFL. College football is a success all over America and they are not NFL level games. I say go for it. Place the new league in cities without an existing team. Seems like these new leagues always place teams in Philly, New York, LA, etc. Bad business plan. How about OK City, Memphis, St Louis, Birmingham, Salt Lake City, etc.

That is what the CFL tried with its failed US expansion. People always seem to downplay the loyalty to the uniform when coming up with the AAA football leagues.

Americans did not identify with a league started by another country.

Well in the 70's Americans didn't identify with the World Football League, and in the 80's they didn't identify with the United States Football League, and since they haven't really identified with Arena Football either.

My suspicion here is that we all tend to be traditionalists and Spring and Summer football just isn't going to get an audience when the American psyche is attuned to Basketball and then Baseball / Softball. I think we want our Football in the Fall and over with as soon as possible after the New Year.

But we all line up to watch those spring games. lol I think there is a place for it if done correctly. I am never ready for football to be over.

It goes back to the laundry IMO. Fans are rooting for 'Old State' and want a preview of the upcoming year. It's why no matter how much money is offered in the G League, it will still pale in comparison to MBB and March Madness. The best idea for spring CFB was JR when he suggested that the cupcake games could be moved to that time of year.

(03-22-2018 05:58 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 08:32 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:20 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:58 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  That is what the CFL tried with its failed US expansion. People always seem to downplay the loyalty to the uniform when coming up with the AAA football leagues.

Americans did not identify with a league started by another country.

Well in the 70's Americans didn't identify with the World Football League, and in the 80's they didn't identify with the United States Football League, and since they haven't really identified with Arena Football either.

My suspicion here is that we all tend to be traditionalists and Spring and Summer football just isn't going to get an audience when the American psyche is attuned to Basketball and then Baseball / Softball. I think we want our Football in the Fall and over with as soon as possible after the New Year.

But we all line up to watch those spring games. lol I think there is a place for it if done correctly. I am never ready for football to be over.

It goes back to the laundry IMO. Fans are rooting for 'Old State' and want a preview of the upcoming year. It's why no matter how much money is offered in the G League, it will still pale in comparison to MBB and March Madness. The best idea for spring CFB was JR when he suggested that the cupcake games could be moved to that time of year.

I think that would be a good idea, but I think what might be even better is a jamboree format. Take 3 or 4 schools from a general region and allow them to play a quarter against each other.

You could sell tickets to a variety of fan bases in order to increase demand a little bit and fill up an entire afternoon with competition. People could come and go as they please and that would be good for vendors and local businesses as well.

You'd also be more likely to prevent injuries from engaging in a full length game. That and some of the smaller programs might be a little more susceptible to injury due to the difference in the quality of athlete so I think they would probably prefer the limited action as well.

I think the coaches might also get a better feel for their guys' performance and the sort of depth they have if you're running your squads out against live competition that you don't see everyday in practice.

(03-22-2018 06:45 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 05:58 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 08:32 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:20 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Americans did not identify with a league started by another country.

Well in the 70's Americans didn't identify with the World Football League, and in the 80's they didn't identify with the United States Football League, and since they haven't really identified with Arena Football either.

My suspicion here is that we all tend to be traditionalists and Spring and Summer football just isn't going to get an audience when the American psyche is attuned to Basketball and then Baseball / Softball. I think we want our Football in the Fall and over with as soon as possible after the New Year.

But we all line up to watch those spring games. lol I think there is a place for it if done correctly. I am never ready for football to be over.

It goes back to the laundry IMO. Fans are rooting for 'Old State' and want a preview of the upcoming year. It's why no matter how much money is offered in the G League, it will still pale in comparison to MBB and March Madness. The best idea for spring CFB was JR when he suggested that the cupcake games could be moved to that time of year.

I think that would be a good idea, but I think what might be even better is a jamboree format. Take 3 or 4 schools from a general region and allow them to play a quarter against each other.

You could sell tickets to a variety of fan bases in order to increase demand a little bit and fill up an entire afternoon with competition. People could come and go as they please and that would be good for vendors and local businesses as well.

You'd also be more likely to prevent injuries from engaging in a full length game. That and some of the smaller programs might be a little more susceptible to injury due to the difference in the quality of athlete so I think they would probably prefer the limited action as well.

I think the coaches might also get a better feel for their guys' performance and the sort of depth they have if you're running your squads out against live competition that you don't see everyday in practice.

As long as you maintain association with CFB, any spring football stands a chance succeeding. But semi-pro football working in B'ham or Memphis is a dubious affair IMO.