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Womens Sports:
softball
women's tennis

Mens Sports
men's swimming & diving
wrestling

saving the school $2.4 million annually

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UB cut Mens Soccer, Mens Swimming, Baseball, and rowing and also saved about two million dollars.

MAC men’s swimming is pretty much toast. Miami and Ball are the only MAC all-sports teams left along with Evansville, Missouri State and SoIll.

(03-20-2018 07:39 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Womens Sports:
softball
women's tennis

Mens Sports
men's swimming & diving
wrestling

saving the school $2.4 million annually

===

UB cut Mens Soccer, Mens Swimming, Baseball, and rowing and also saved about two million dollars.

I'd guess the major consideration are as follows:

1). Direct cash costs including salaries, travel, cost basis for scholarship players (e.g., R&B, books, etc.). And don't low ball salaries. FICA is a big expense. Health insurance in the U.S. is a very big expense, esp. a family plan. I'm not into HR, but I'd think fringes easily add say 20 - 25% to the listed salary of a position. Someone might get a 60K salary but also pick up health insurance worth say 10K on top.

2). Title IX. The 2 + 2 reduction seems to be very much Title IX inspired. If we cut a women's sport, then a men's sport has to be chopped, if for no other reason than Title IX. We cut 58 male student athletes and 25 female student athletes with this reduction in two men's and two women's sports. Don't know the actual scholarship numbers. As a poster indicated, S&D is a dying sport at the MAC. Now only two of the 12 schools will have it for men.

Interesting from the comments by the AD about being requested by the board and president to stay in the top tier of football.

It sounds like he openly questioned staying FBS. The school doesn't really have a choice though because FBS is where all the revenue is.

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How is EMU dropping wrestling going to affect the conference?

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(03-20-2018 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:39 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Womens Sports:
softball
women's tennis

Mens Sports
men's swimming & diving
wrestling

saving the school $2.4 million annually

===

UB cut Mens Soccer, Mens Swimming, Baseball, and rowing and also saved about two million dollars.

I'd guess the major consideration are as follows:

1). Direct cash costs including salaries, travel, cost basis for scholarship players (e.g., R&B, books, etc.). And don't low ball salaries. FICA is a big expense. Health insurance in the U.S. is a very big expense, esp. a family plan. I'm not into HR, but I'd think fringes easily add say 20 - 25% to the listed salary of a position. Someone might get a 60K salary but also pick up health insurance worth say 10K on top.

2). Title IX. The 2 + 2 reduction seems to be very much Title IX inspired. If we cut a women's sport, then a men's sport has to be chopped, if for no other reason than Title IX. We cut 58 male student athletes and 25 female student athletes with this reduction in two men's and two women's sports. Don't know the actual scholarship numbers. As a poster indicated, S&D is a dying sport at the MAC. Now only two of the 12 schools will have it for men.

Looks like it's 20 men's (19.8) and 20 women's scholarships. I'm surprised more men's scholarships weren't cut relative to women's unless you guys are Title 9 compliant. We just added women's golf and lacrosse to get us closer to a scholarship distribution that matches our M/F ratio on campus.

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/ncaalimits.html

(03-20-2018 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:39 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Womens Sports:
softball
women's tennis

Mens Sports
men's swimming & diving
wrestling

saving the school $2.4 million annually

===

UB cut Mens Soccer, Mens Swimming, Baseball, and rowing and also saved about two million dollars.

I'd guess the major consideration are as follows:

1). Direct cash costs including salaries, travel, cost basis for scholarship players (e.g., R&B, books, etc.). And don't low ball salaries. FICA is a big expense. Health insurance in the U.S. is a very big expense, esp. a family plan. I'm not into HR, but I'd think fringes easily add say 20 - 25% to the listed salary of a position. Someone might get a 60K salary but also pick up health insurance worth say 10K on top.

2). Title IX. The 2 + 2 reduction seems to be very much Title IX inspired. If we cut a women's sport, then a men's sport has to be chopped, if for no other reason than Title IX. We cut 58 male student athletes and 25 female student athletes with this reduction in two men's and two women's sports. Don't know the actual scholarship numbers. As a poster indicated, S&D is a dying sport at the MAC. Now only two of the 12 schools will have it for men.

Fringe at EMU is ~39%

(03-21-2018 01:27 PM)masttg Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:39 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Womens Sports:
softball
women's tennis

Mens Sports
men's swimming & diving
wrestling

saving the school $2.4 million annually

===

UB cut Mens Soccer, Mens Swimming, Baseball, and rowing and also saved about two million dollars.

I'd guess the major consideration are as follows:

1). Direct cash costs including salaries, travel, cost basis for scholarship players (e.g., R&B, books, etc.). And don't low ball salaries. FICA is a big expense. Health insurance in the U.S. is a very big expense, esp. a family plan. I'm not into HR, but I'd think fringes easily add say 20 - 25% to the listed salary of a position. Someone might get a 60K salary but also pick up health insurance worth say 10K on top.

2). Title IX. The 2 + 2 reduction seems to be very much Title IX inspired. If we cut a women's sport, then a men's sport has to be chopped, if for no other reason than Title IX. We cut 58 male student athletes and 25 female student athletes with this reduction in two men's and two women's sports. Don't know the actual scholarship numbers. As a poster indicated, S&D is a dying sport at the MAC. Now only two of the 12 schools will have it for men.

Fringe at EMU is ~39%

Yeah, I low balled that number.

Fringe benefits are very, very expensive, esp. health insurance.

(03-21-2018 01:27 PM)masttg Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:39 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Womens Sports:
softball
women's tennis

Mens Sports
men's swimming & diving
wrestling

saving the school $2.4 million annually

===

UB cut Mens Soccer, Mens Swimming, Baseball, and rowing and also saved about two million dollars.

I'd guess the major consideration are as follows:

1). Direct cash costs including salaries, travel, cost basis for scholarship players (e.g., R&B, books, etc.). And don't low ball salaries. FICA is a big expense. Health insurance in the U.S. is a very big expense, esp. a family plan. I'm not into HR, but I'd think fringes easily add say 20 - 25% to the listed salary of a position. Someone might get a 60K salary but also pick up health insurance worth say 10K on top.

2). Title IX. The 2 + 2 reduction seems to be very much Title IX inspired. If we cut a women's sport, then a men's sport has to be chopped, if for no other reason than Title IX. We cut 58 male student athletes and 25 female student athletes with this reduction in two men's and two women's sports. Don't know the actual scholarship numbers. As a poster indicated, S&D is a dying sport at the MAC. Now only two of the 12 schools will have it for men.

Fringe at EMU is ~39%

Yeah, I low balled that number.

Fringe benefits are very, very expensive, esp. health insurance.

(03-20-2018 12:45 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  How is EMU dropping wrestling going to affect the conference?

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How is the conference dropping EMU going to effect the conference?

Sorry, wrong thread

(JK Eagle Fans. NIU like many schools may shave a sport or two soon to streamline the budget, Huskies in glass houses should not throw feces...)

MAC wrestling will be at 8 next year but only CMU as the lone Michigan school.

Still a power conference. CMU was 8-6 and ranked in the Top 20 this season.

Dear Kittonhead,
Not sure it can still be a MAC sport with only one school as its representative.

(03-21-2018 02:57 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Kittonhead,
Not sure it can still be a MAC sport with only one school as its representative.

Good thing there are seven,including five MAC all-sports schools, then, huh?

(03-21-2018 03:40 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 02:57 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Kittonhead,
Not sure it can still be a MAC sport with only one school as its representative.

Good thing there are seven,including five MAC all-sports schools, then, huh?

I'm going to use a direct quote by Ken Barna from over on our board in this situation...

"...and you have problems with comprehension, so sad."

Kittonhead said CMU is the lone MICHIGAN school representative. I'm only bringing this up because I literally had just read your comment from the Toledo board and thought this was a little ironic.

Dear inductchuck16,
You are absolutely right, I mis-read the comment. The difference between me and H2Oville Rocket, I admit it when I am wrong, he doesn't.

(03-21-2018 06:10 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear inductchuck16,
You are absolutely right, I mis-read the comment. The difference between me and H2Oville Rocket, I admit it when I am wrong, he doesn't.

When it happens I will.

(03-21-2018 02:31 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 12:45 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  How is EMU dropping wrestling going to affect the conference?

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How is the conference dropping EMU going to effect the conference?

Sorry, wrong thread

(JK Eagle Fans. NIU like many schools may shave a sport or two soon to streamline the budget, Huskies in glass houses should not throw feces...)

TO THE KEYBOARDS EVERYBODY oh wait never mind

(03-20-2018 12:42 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Interesting from the comments by the AD about being requested by the board and president to stay in the top tier of football.

It sounds like he openly questioned staying FBS. The school doesn't really have a choice though because FBS is where all the revenue is.

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I'm not really sure they'd (or anyone else in the MAC) actually save all that much by dropping to FCS. Unlike Idaho, they're in the middle of the conference footprint and the MAC is more compact than any FCS conference they'd wind up in (OVC, MVC, CAA). So the only savings would come from the reduction in scholarship and perhaps the reduction in coaching staff pay, but at the end of the day, the scholarship savings are really only on paper and the coaching savings are fairly minuscule in the grand scheme of things.

Dear EMU, get ready to have this fight with people once every six month for the next 10 years.. The Buffalo news has been relentless, they even used EMUs cuts to once again attack UB's 2016 cuts..