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Chicago State new coach...
Any news on the candidates for Chicago State?
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Haven't followed the search at all, so the only name I've seen VERY loosely tied to Chicago State is Mark Aguirre. The exact description was he "might be in talks" and Aguirre stated he "wouldn't be opposed to coaching there."
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(03-19-2018 12:39 AM)gleadley Wrote:  Haven't followed the search at all, so the only name I've seen VERY loosely tied to Chicago State is Mark Aguirre. The exact description was he "might be in talks" and Aguirre stated he "wouldn't be opposed to coaching there."

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A few job openings have been posted on their hiring site in the last week:
Interim AD. (Why the interim tag? Who knows)
MBB Head Coach
WBB Head Coach
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And literally as I make the above post, the MBB Head Coach has been removed. It was still on as of this AM.
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(04-05-2018 06:34 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Yet they are still somehow offering kids. Odd.
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(04-05-2018 06:36 PM)gleadley Wrote:  
(04-05-2018 06:34 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Yet they are still somehow offering kids. Odd.

Chicago State is odd...sorry josh.
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They still have their assistant coaches on staff, and out recruiting. It’s hard to say when they’ll actually hire someone, though!

CP- Totally agree. Very odd.
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Josh. Is Chicago State every going to hire a coach?
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Chicago State's Recruiting budget for all men's sports is $30,540 (that includes Baseball, Tennis, Golf, Soccer, and Track). Not much to work with.

I think they are going to have great difficulty in filling the job, as they only paid Dildy around $140K, which is less than half what all other coaches in the WAC make. That is assistant pay level at many schools (more in power/major level). And the person who takes that job will likely be asked to perform most of the AD role as well.
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I try not to think about this coaching search because everytime I think about firing Dildy and the ensuing predictable dumpster fire of a search I just get angrier.
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They’ve removed the job postings for the AD, men’s, and women’s coach a couple weeks back. Hard to say that means they’ve narrowed it down or what. The majority of the coaches have been removed from the staff directory with only James Farr and Matt Raidbard remaining.
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(04-21-2018 05:40 AM)joshadam84 Wrote:  They’ve removed the job postings for the AD, men’s, and women’s coach a couple weeks back. Hard to say that means they’ve narrowed it down or what. The majority of the coaches have been removed from the staff directory with only James Farr and Matt Raidbard remaining.

Sounds ominous. Will they just pull the plug without notice? Doesn't look like they are trying to have a future in athletics.
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Chicago State is different and so it will probably take a bit longer to hire an AD and head basketball coaches for both men's and women's basketball. When Dildy was hired in 2010, it was not done until July:

http://www.espn.com/chicago/news/story?id=5374737

I don't think that is a good pattern to follow, but it is not a high profile job, either. As for salary, they can afford to hire a decent Head basketball coach for men's basketball comparable to other D1 mid-major programs in the state. WIU pays their head coach $127,500 per season. EIU pays their head coach $160,000 per year. SIUE pays their head coach $180,000 per year.

According to the Department of Education numbers, Chicago State in 2016-2017 had a basketball expenses of $701,571 and basketball revenue of $1,180,256.

https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

They do play a lot of money games. They bring in around $500,000 per year in revenue from the money games. They can afford to pay a head coach in men's basketball a salary of about $175,000 per year. The harder part is just finding the right guy. It is not a job that leads to another D1 job. It is usually the last D1 head coach job for a coach. So finding an AD and head coaches that are up to the challenge of Chicago State is not an easy. They should take their time.
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Chicago State needs the revenue to pay for other sports. Almost all the funding is from student fees and tuition, and with declining enrollment they will have to work with about 300-400K less in 2018-19 than 2017-18. They are obviously hoping to shave a few thousand off the new women's coach from the $100K they paid the prior one.

There is no "extra" money to pay a head MBB Coach, unless you are talking about transferring more money from the school to the athletic program.

BTW, that "revenue" includes institutional transfers. USAToday at least gives a break down on source

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Year    Ticket Sales   Contributions  Rights/Licensing  Student Fees    School Funds    Other    Total Revenues
2016      $2,865          $0            $140,000        $1,645,600    $4,998,965    $709,500        $7,496,930
2015      $15,434         $0            $140,716        $1,280,820    $4,521,653    $460,219        $6,418,842
2014     (no data)
2013      $9,060          $0            $0              $1,754,302    $4,474,183    $380,000        $6,617,545
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(04-22-2018 03:09 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Chicago State is different and so it will probably take a bit longer to hire an AD and head basketball coaches for both men's and women's basketball. When Dildy was hired in 2010, it was not done until July:

http://www.espn.com/chicago/news/story?id=5374737

I don't think that is a good pattern to follow, but it is not a high profile job, either. As for salary, they can afford to hire a decent Head basketball coach for men's basketball comparable to other D1 mid-major programs in the state. WIU pays their head coach $127,500 per season. EIU pays their head coach $160,000 per year. SIUE pays their head coach $180,000 per year.

According to the Department of Education numbers, Chicago State in 2016-2017 had a basketball expenses of $701,571 and basketball revenue of $1,180,256.

https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

They do play a lot of money games. They bring in around $500,000 per year in revenue from the money games. They can afford to pay a head coach in men's basketball a salary of about $175,000 per year. The harder part is just finding the right guy. It is not a job that leads to another D1 job. It is usually the last D1 head coach job for a coach. So finding an AD and head coaches that are up to the challenge of Chicago State is not an easy. They should take their time.

Actually, your numbers are incorrect. Chicago st does not have $175,000 to pay a coach either. If you look at the previous salaries of past coaches. The last AD/HC made 130k for being AD and HC COMBINED....
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(04-22-2018 03:34 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Chicago State needs the revenue to pay for other sports. Almost all the funding is from student fees and tuition, and with declining enrollment they will have to work with about 300-400K less in 2018-19 than 2017-18. They are obviously hoping to shave a few thousand off the new women's coach from the $100K they paid the prior one.

There is no "extra" money to pay a head MBB Coach, unless you are talking about transferring more money from the school to the athletic program.

BTW, that "revenue" includes institutional transfers. USAToday at least gives a break down on source

Code:
Year    Ticket Sales   Contributions  Rights/Licensing  Student Fees    School Funds    Other    Total Revenues
2016      $2,865          $0            $140,000        $1,645,600    $4,998,965    $709,500        $7,496,930
2015      $15,434         $0            $140,716        $1,280,820    $4,521,653    $460,219        $6,418,842
2014     (no data)
2013      $9,060          $0            $0              $1,754,302    $4,474,183    $380,000        $6,617,545

First, the budget in 2016-2017 was during the Illinois State budget crisis. When that ended in the summer of 2017, Chicago State got $23 million they were owed plus their 2017-2018 budget of $35 million from the state. The basketball budget was probably higher in 2017 -2018 than it was in 2016-2017 because they got all of their funding plus $23 million.

Second, Dildy was paid $140,000 to coach basketball. Getting to $175,000 is not that hard. The $140,000 to $175,000 number is in line with other D1 programs in the state.

What is your point, Stu? That Chicago State should not have an athletic program? Because that ship sailed a long time ago when the school decided to go D1 and the State of Illinois decided to take $38 million in state funding and build Chicago State a new campus arena.

D1 men's basketball is the one sport at Chicago State that brings in revenue, so investing $175,000 in a head coach is a small investment to make in a basketball program that brings in revenue from money games and their WAC share of NCAA tournament revenue.

The enrollment issue will either improve or not. That is an issue for Chicago State and the State of Illinois to deal with. As a WAC fan, I want Chicago State to improve their RPI in basketball and baseball. Their RPI is killing the WAC in those sports. If they can't become competitive, then they need to leave the WAC.
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(04-22-2018 04:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-22-2018 03:09 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Chicago State is different and so it will probably take a bit longer to hire an AD and head basketball coaches for both men's and women's basketball. When Dildy was hired in 2010, it was not done until July:

http://www.espn.com/chicago/news/story?id=5374737

I don't think that is a good pattern to follow, but it is not a high profile job, either. As for salary, they can afford to hire a decent Head basketball coach for men's basketball comparable to other D1 mid-major programs in the state. WIU pays their head coach $127,500 per season. EIU pays their head coach $160,000 per year. SIUE pays their head coach $180,000 per year.

According to the Department of Education numbers, Chicago State in 2016-2017 had a basketball expenses of $701,571 and basketball revenue of $1,180,256.

https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

They do play a lot of money games. They bring in around $500,000 per year in revenue from the money games. They can afford to pay a head coach in men's basketball a salary of about $175,000 per year. The harder part is just finding the right guy. It is not a job that leads to another D1 job. It is usually the last D1 head coach job for a coach. So finding an AD and head coaches that are up to the challenge of Chicago State is not an easy. They should take their time.

Actually, your numbers are incorrect. Chicago st does not have $175,000 to pay a coach either. If you look at the previous salaries of past coaches. The last AD/HC made 130k for being AD and HC COMBINED....

In 2015-2016, Dildy was making $140,000 as the basketball coach and the athletic director (Denisha Hendricks) was making $125,000. When the AD resigned, Dildy took on the AD job. He was making $150,000 for both jobs. With the Illinois state budget crisis behind them, I would expect them to hire a new Athletic Director.
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