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RE: Memphis East State Title Game (Wichita State and Memphis Fans)
(03-19-2018 07:29 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  I guess its up to Penny, but I would think he might talk Nickelberry into sticking around. He's 6'7 w/ decent ball handling skills and great court vision. Sounds a little bit like his new head coach's game . Maybe Penny thinks he can develop him into something. Plus, they cant afford to lose too many or we take an APR hit.

Yeah, I agree the APR concern might cause Penny to keep one or two he wouldn't otherwise keep, and Nickelberry is definitely the best player of the group I mentioned as possible to leave.

Last I heard, Penny thinks he is likely bringing 5 for 2018 (leaving room for 8 on our current roster). That would be enough room for Nickelberry, even if all the others I mentioned above, stay.

But I also think Nickelberry could leave on his own, b/c he and his dad openly expressed displeasure with his lack of playing time, and you can figure that's not likely to increase next season.
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(03-19-2018 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Last I heard, Penny thinks he is likely bringing 5 for 2018 (leaving room for 8 on our current roster). That would be enough room for Nickelberry, even if all the others I mentioned above, stay.

This is the thing I am most interested in this spring/ summer. Going to be exciting to find out who these guys are.

Simons?
Shaq's son?
Lomax is pretty much a given
Tyler Harris? Can he and Lomax co-exist?
Leron Black grad transfer in?

All are names I have heard mentioned.
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(03-19-2018 08:18 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Last I heard, Penny thinks he is likely bringing 5 for 2018 (leaving room for 8 on our current roster). That would be enough room for Nickelberry, even if all the others I mentioned above, stay.

This is the thing I am most interested in this spring/ summer. Going to be exciting to find out who these guys are.

Simons?
Shaq's son?
Lomax is pretty much a given
Tyler Harris? Can he and Lomax co-exist?

Leron Black grad transfer in?

All are names I have heard mentioned.

Seems like an either or situation from an outsiders perspective. Besides I don't think you'd want two point guards in the same class. If you have Harris (or Lomax) in the class of 18' I would think the earliest you'd want another PG is for the class of 20'.
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(03-19-2018 08:18 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Last I heard, Penny thinks he is likely bringing 5 for 2018 (leaving room for 8 on our current roster). That would be enough room for Nickelberry, even if all the others I mentioned above, stay.

This is the thing I am most interested in this spring/ summer. Going to be exciting to find out who these guys are.

Simons?
Shaq's son?
Lomax is pretty much a given
Tyler Harris? Can he and Lomax co-exist?
Leron Black grad transfer in?

All are names I have heard mentioned.

I think Harris is a definite. He and Lomax can def co-exist under Penny. Plus, Harris is really more of a scorer. He is just so tiny he gets typecast as a PG. I think this is what puzzles WSU fans.

Lomax is much more of a typical PG. Harris could play the 2, but there is also the issue of him getting posted up at either spot, but especially at the 2. Lomax seems definite, b/c he was raised by Penny. It's just a matter of whether he has to sit out a year, or not.

Simons will come if he decides not to go pro. But he is projected in the top 10 in some mock drafts, and he has already done his extra year of prep and will be 19. So no way to know yet.

Shareef O'Neal seems to be a pretty sure thing at this point, even though he is a verbal to UCLA. That was before Penny became the HC for Memphis.

Leron Black doesn't seem likely. There is a rumor he inquired, but he appears to be turning pro and signing with an agent.

The other possibility for 2018 is Wiseman IF he reclassifies. I have no idea where that process stands. If so, I think he cones to Memphis and plays 2 years, before he is old enough to turn pro. If he doesn't reclassify, I still think Penny gets him for one year in 2019. But that relationship is nowhere as deep as Penny with Lomax, so never say never.

The only other name I have heard is Penny's son Jayden, a decent player who would be a walk-on for 2018.

So, if everything above somehow works out, that will be 5 scholly players added for 2018:

Harris, Lomax, O'Neal, Simons and Wiseman.

There are other possibilities that include transfers or NLI situations (besides Lomax), but those are more complicated.

Five is the number I have heard, both for 2018 recruits, and again for 2019, when all our Jucos + Martin will be gone.

And if any of the 5 above doesn't pan out, Penny appears to have backup plans. More applicants than spots available.

The opposite of Tubby.
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Boy, any more you even mention Alex Lomax in a thread and it immediately gets moved to the Smack board.
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(03-19-2018 08:31 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 08:18 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Last I heard, Penny thinks he is likely bringing 5 for 2018 (leaving room for 8 on our current roster). That would be enough room for Nickelberry, even if all the others I mentioned above, stay.

This is the thing I am most interested in this spring/ summer. Going to be exciting to find out who these guys are.

Simons?
Shaq's son?
Lomax is pretty much a given
Tyler Harris? Can he and Lomax co-exist?

Leron Black grad transfer in?

All are names I have heard mentioned.

Seems like an either or situation from an outsiders perspective. Besides I don't think you'd want two point guards in the same class. If you have Harris (or Lomax) in the class of 18' I would think the earliest you'd want another PG is for the class of 20'.

Harris is not a true PG. He is a shooter who can fill it up much better than Lomax, who is a true PG. Lomax is the better passer.
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(03-19-2018 10:32 AM)ShockerDR Wrote:  Boy, any more you even mention Alex Lomax in a thread and it immediately gets moved to the Smack board.

This one got moved while I was typing, lol. I thought we were doing pretty well discussing this. Nobody smack talking or trolling at all.

Maybe some other Shocker fans complained to the mods?

Oh well, I'm game to talk here, if you guys are. Not sure if there is much else to say, though, until we see what happens.
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(03-19-2018 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:32 AM)ShockerDR Wrote:  Boy, any more you even mention Alex Lomax in a thread and it immediately gets moved to the Smack board.

This one got moved while I was typing, lol. I thought we were doing pretty well discussing this. Nobody smack talking or trolling at all.

Maybe some other Shocker fans complained to the mods?

Oh well, I'm game to talk here, if you guys are. Not sure if there is much else to say, though, until we see what happens.

I think when you have posters mentioning in every possible thread that they are planning on stealing a conference mates recruit when there is ZERO evidence besides hearsay so far ... it gets old and I'm sure the mods agree. We get it .. you guys think you are gods now and no one could possibly want to leave Memphis. It doesn't have to get mentioned in every thread.
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(03-19-2018 11:01 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:32 AM)ShockerDR Wrote:  Boy, any more you even mention Alex Lomax in a thread and it immediately gets moved to the Smack board.

This one got moved while I was typing, lol. I thought we were doing pretty well discussing this. Nobody smack talking or trolling at all.

Maybe some other Shocker fans complained to the mods?

Oh well, I'm game to talk here, if you guys are. Not sure if there is much else to say, though, until we see what happens.

I think when you have posters mentioning in every possible thread that they are planning on stealing a conference mates recruit when there is ZERO evidence besides hearsay so far ... it gets old and I'm sure the mods agree. We get it .. you guys think you are gods now and no one could possibly want to leave Memphis. It doesn't have to get mentioned in every thread.

TripleA has been quite reasonable. Other Memphis fans not so much.
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(03-19-2018 11:08 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:01 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:32 AM)ShockerDR Wrote:  Boy, any more you even mention Alex Lomax in a thread and it immediately gets moved to the Smack board.

This one got moved while I was typing, lol. I thought we were doing pretty well discussing this. Nobody smack talking or trolling at all.

Maybe some other Shocker fans complained to the mods?

Oh well, I'm game to talk here, if you guys are. Not sure if there is much else to say, though, until we see what happens.

I think when you have posters mentioning in every possible thread that they are planning on stealing a conference mates recruit when there is ZERO evidence besides hearsay so far ... it gets old and I'm sure the mods agree. We get it .. you guys think you are gods now and no one could possibly want to leave Memphis. It doesn't have to get mentioned in every thread.

TripleA has been quite reasonable. Other Memphis fans not so much.

That's why i referred to other posters and not him...
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(03-19-2018 11:01 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:32 AM)ShockerDR Wrote:  Boy, any more you even mention Alex Lomax in a thread and it immediately gets moved to the Smack board.

This one got moved while I was typing, lol. I thought we were doing pretty well discussing this. Nobody smack talking or trolling at all.

Maybe some other Shocker fans complained to the mods?

Oh well, I'm game to talk here, if you guys are. Not sure if there is much else to say, though, until we see what happens.

I think when you have posters mentioning in every possible thread that they are planning on stealing a conference mates recruit when there is ZERO evidence besides hearsay so far ... it gets old and I'm sure the mods agree. We get it .. you guys think you are gods now and no one could possibly want to leave Memphis. It doesn't have to get mentioned in every thread.

Dude, I understand the upset, but you are talking to the wrong guy. I have only posted mostly when somebody else asked a question or made a comment.

And I'm not going to return smack talk fire, either. Waste of energy.

From my side, it's a whole lot more than zero evidence. Some is private on our side. You know there is at least some legit talk coming out of the Penny camp about Lomax, since he lives in Penny's house, lol.

But some is public, too. Former beat writers posting it publicly seems like more than hearsay, just as a start.
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(03-19-2018 11:08 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:08 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:01 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:32 AM)ShockerDR Wrote:  Boy, any more you even mention Alex Lomax in a thread and it immediately gets moved to the Smack board.

This one got moved while I was typing, lol. I thought we were doing pretty well discussing this. Nobody smack talking or trolling at all.

Maybe some other Shocker fans complained to the mods?

Oh well, I'm game to talk here, if you guys are. Not sure if there is much else to say, though, until we see what happens.

I think when you have posters mentioning in every possible thread that they are planning on stealing a conference mates recruit when there is ZERO evidence besides hearsay so far ... it gets old and I'm sure the mods agree. We get it .. you guys think you are gods now and no one could possibly want to leave Memphis. It doesn't have to get mentioned in every thread.

TripleA has been quite reasonable. Other Memphis fans not so much.

That's why i referred to other posters and not him...

Except you replied to me, and said "you" and "you guys." So I assumed I was included. But I don't get mad much. I try to be sensible. And only post when somebody else brings up this particular topic.

I do agree other Memphis fans are a bit brusque and rude. But so are fans from all schools. Just futile to let them get you so upset. That's exactly what they want to do. Helps their self esteem, I suppose.
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(03-19-2018 11:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:01 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:32 AM)ShockerDR Wrote:  Boy, any more you even mention Alex Lomax in a thread and it immediately gets moved to the Smack board.

This one got moved while I was typing, lol. I thought we were doing pretty well discussing this. Nobody smack talking or trolling at all.

Maybe some other Shocker fans complained to the mods?

Oh well, I'm game to talk here, if you guys are. Not sure if there is much else to say, though, until we see what happens.

I think when you have posters mentioning in every possible thread that they are planning on stealing a conference mates recruit when there is ZERO evidence besides hearsay so far ... it gets old and I'm sure the mods agree. We get it .. you guys think you are gods now and no one could possibly want to leave Memphis. It doesn't have to get mentioned in every thread.

Dude, I understand the upset, but you are talking to the wrong guy. I have only posted mostly when somebody else asked a question or made a comment.

And I'm not going to return smack talk fire, either. Waste of energy.

From my side, it's a whole lot more than zero evidence. Some is private on our side. You know there is at least some legit talk coming out of the Penny camp about Lomax, since he lives in Penny's house, lol.

But some is public, too. Former beat writers posting it publicly seems like more than hearsay, just as a start.

Does he still live with Penny? I know he did for a long time but I was under the impression he was living with his Dad now.
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(03-19-2018 12:11 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:01 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:32 AM)ShockerDR Wrote:  Boy, any more you even mention Alex Lomax in a thread and it immediately gets moved to the Smack board.

This one got moved while I was typing, lol. I thought we were doing pretty well discussing this. Nobody smack talking or trolling at all.

Maybe some other Shocker fans complained to the mods?

Oh well, I'm game to talk here, if you guys are. Not sure if there is much else to say, though, until we see what happens.

I think when you have posters mentioning in every possible thread that they are planning on stealing a conference mates recruit when there is ZERO evidence besides hearsay so far ... it gets old and I'm sure the mods agree. We get it .. you guys think you are gods now and no one could possibly want to leave Memphis. It doesn't have to get mentioned in every thread.

Dude, I understand the upset, but you are talking to the wrong guy. I have only posted mostly when somebody else asked a question or made a comment.

And I'm not going to return smack talk fire, either. Waste of energy.

From my side, it's a whole lot more than zero evidence. Some is private on our side. You know there is at least some legit talk coming out of the Penny camp about Lomax, since he lives in Penny's house, lol.

But some is public, too. Former beat writers posting it publicly seems like more than hearsay, just as a start.

Does he still live with Penny? I know he did for a long time but I was under the impression he was living with his Dad now.

No. That was a typo. I type fast and sometimes make mistakes I don't catch. Should be "lived." My understanding is he lived with Penny from 6th grade to 9th grade. I'm pretty sure I posted that elsewhere on here.
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(03-19-2018 03:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 12:11 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:01 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  This one got moved while I was typing, lol. I thought we were doing pretty well discussing this. Nobody smack talking or trolling at all.

Maybe some other Shocker fans complained to the mods?

Oh well, I'm game to talk here, if you guys are. Not sure if there is much else to say, though, until we see what happens.

I think when you have posters mentioning in every possible thread that they are planning on stealing a conference mates recruit when there is ZERO evidence besides hearsay so far ... it gets old and I'm sure the mods agree. We get it .. you guys think you are gods now and no one could possibly want to leave Memphis. It doesn't have to get mentioned in every thread.

Dude, I understand the upset, but you are talking to the wrong guy. I have only posted mostly when somebody else asked a question or made a comment.

And I'm not going to return smack talk fire, either. Waste of energy.

From my side, it's a whole lot more than zero evidence. Some is private on our side. You know there is at least some legit talk coming out of the Penny camp about Lomax, since he lives in Penny's house, lol.

But some is public, too. Former beat writers posting it publicly seems like more than hearsay, just as a start.

Does he still live with Penny? I know he did for a long time but I was under the impression he was living with his Dad now.

No. That was a typo. I type fast and make mistakes. My understanding is he lived with Penny from 6th grade to 9th grade.

Thanks.
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