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(03-13-2018 03:01 PM)TribePride91 Wrote:  Drexel should be able to get St Joe's or Villanova. Yet none of these games are happening.

Actually St Joes was happening yearly while we had Bruiser as coach, as a St Joes alum. We did not play this year, which was the first in awhile. Hopefully that starts up again but who knows, same with Penn. The Big5 programs in general purposely exclude Drexel. We get periodic games against Temple and LaSalle but they are few and far between. It is not by choice and wont change any time soon.

As far as Villanova goes, Nova put an end to that after we beat them in '06-'07 and refused to play until we fell off a cliff and played again in 2009. They have not played since.
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(03-13-2018 03:01 PM)TribePride91 Wrote:  We have been talking through this topic on our board as well. Basically, we all pull for each other in November and December each year before then returning to our fan bases for the conference season. The CAA needs a major nonconference scheduling upgrade. There was a time when ODU, VCU and Mason were in the league that we got multiple bids, but there hasn't been one since 2011(VCU and Mason got in that year with champ ODU). So, one of the last 2 at large bids went to the final four. Contrast that with the A10 that gets multiple at large bids every year. All of the 10 programs need to commit with encouragement from the league office to multiple tough OOC games. Some are gained through early season tournaments, but some have to be just road scheduling. Pretty much each year, the Tribe schedules 3 tough OOC games. This year, we had UCF, TCU and Ohio State(we lost all 3, but came close against TCU). Last season, we had Louisville, Duke and Rhode Island, 2016- Virginia, NC State and Dayton. So, basically 3 games each year. Our OOC SOS was in the 20's and 30's. Granted, the Tribe did not win many of those games(we did beat NC State), but each year we have been competitive in at least one. The nonconference has got to be upgraded, including the possibility of a challenge with another highly regarded league(A10?). It would be great to get some more games with the A10. Mason played us this year and we also got 2 games with ODU and Marshall(Conference USA). But, at a base level, there should be at least 30 nonconference games against quality opposition on the road or on neutral courts. That is only 3 per team. Then, a fair number of games need to be won. That, plus some wins in the tournament by our representatives will help us a little. But, clearly, the P5 conferences would prefer to further relegate the mid-majors to play in rounds and auto bids only. If they expanded the tournament, I firmly believe we would either see even more p5 teams, or all the mids in the early play extra round. But in 18-19, I expect several CAA teams to be really really good. So, it is time for some aggressive scheduling. It is tough though when teams won't play you. VCU and Richmond refuse to play the Tribe(and never at Kaplan). You would think UNCW could get Clemson, Wake Forest, State, or UNC without too much trouble. Drexel should be able to get St Joe's or Villanova. Yet none of these games are happening.

The PTB in the CAA have spent more time worrying about who gets to use whose bathrooms in NC then they have on why we have descended to the level of the SWAC in terms of post season bids.

But I suppose it's easier for an athletic conference to pontificate on social issues than to actually, say, go line up a decent TV deal or to insist that all its members play an aspirational schedule....
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And, right on cue, big name UCLA goes down to St. Bonaventure(a team we beat on the road). 07-coffee3
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(03-14-2018 05:50 AM)82hawk Wrote:  And, right on cue, big name UCLA goes down to St. Bonaventure(a team we beat on the road). 07-coffee3

&? They have one bad year it doesn't make them any less of a big name! Does one bad year erase history?03-banghead
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(03-14-2018 07:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-14-2018 05:50 AM)82hawk Wrote:  And, right on cue, big name UCLA goes down to St. Bonaventure(a team we beat on the road). 07-coffee3

&? They have one bad year it doesn't make them any less of a big name! Does one bad year erase history?03-banghead

My personal opinion is that they, for a number of years, have been a highly overrated program in a highly overrated conference. They continue to disappoint.
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(03-14-2018 10:06 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  
(03-14-2018 07:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-14-2018 05:50 AM)82hawk Wrote:  And, right on cue, big name UCLA goes down to St. Bonaventure(a team we beat on the road). 07-coffee3

&? They have one bad year it doesn't make them any less of a big name! Does one bad year erase history?03-banghead

My personal opinion is that they, for a number of years, have been a highly overrated program in a highly overrated conference. They continue to disappoint.
The made it to the sweet 16 3 of the last 4 years, 3 consecutive final 4's in 06, 07, 08. Again, 82 as he always does is taking things out of context, They are not tier 1 with Duke, UNC etc, but, they are certainly in the next tier.

I don't disagree with you in terms of the conference.
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Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, Indiana, UCLA. That's the complete list of the bluest of the blue bloods right there, even with Indiana and UCLA struggling of late. Louisville was close to being added to that list.
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That said, St. Bonaventure was due. No NCAA Tournament wins since 1970, and a program on the rise. I think they'll also beat Florida in the 11-6 matchup.
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(03-14-2018 10:35 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  That said, St. Bonaventure was due. No NCAA Tournament wins since 1970, and a program on the rise. I think they'll also beat Florida in the 11-6 matchup.

That game was UGLY. I've been high on St. Bonaventure this year, but they will not beat Florida playing the way they did last night. Especially if their best player goes 2-16. That UCLA team was not good.
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(03-14-2018 11:37 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(03-14-2018 10:35 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  That said, St. Bonaventure was due. No NCAA Tournament wins since 1970, and a program on the rise. I think they'll also beat Florida in the 11-6 matchup.

That game was UGLY. I've been high on St. Bonaventure this year, but they will not beat Florida playing the way they did last night. Especially if their best player goes 2-16. That UCLA team was not good.

That's the thing: Their best player will likely NOT go 2-16 in the next round. He also never lost confidence in that game. Even in the end, he took...and made...a big shot.

Winning ugly when you know you can play better is not the worst thing.
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(03-14-2018 10:34 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, Indiana, UCLA. That's the complete list of the bluest of the blue bloods right there, even with Indiana and UCLA struggling of late. Louisville was close to being added to that list.
Agree, and even if you include the struggles, they are certainly in the next tier.
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(03-14-2018 07:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-14-2018 05:50 AM)82hawk Wrote:  And, right on cue, big name UCLA goes down to St. Bonaventure(a team we beat on the road). 07-coffee3

&? They have one bad year it doesn't make them any less of a big name! Does one bad year erase history?03-banghead

Their last national championship was 1994...24 years ago. They haven't made it past the sweet sixteen since 2008...10 years ago. Yes, that is better than UNCW, but not elite. Last year was their best year in a decade, and they still didn't get past the sweet sixteen. And this year, they were in the play in game and were put out by an at-large from the A10.

Indiana hasn't made it past the sweet sixteen since 1992...26 years ago except once playing for the title in 2001...17 years ago, and have only made it to the sweet 16 five times in the past 14 years. Last national championship was 1986...32 years ago.

Those are the gold standard names, but not gold standard on the court.
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(03-14-2018 12:49 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-14-2018 07:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-14-2018 05:50 AM)82hawk Wrote:  And, right on cue, big name UCLA goes down to St. Bonaventure(a team we beat on the road). 07-coffee3

&? They have one bad year it doesn't make them any less of a big name! Does one bad year erase history?03-banghead

Their last national championship was 1994...24 years ago. They haven't made it past the sweet sixteen since 2008...10 years ago. Yes, that is better than UNCW, but not elite. Last year was their best year in a decade, and they still didn't get past the sweet sixteen. And this year, they were in the play in game and were put out by an at-large from the A10.

Indiana hasn't made it past the sweet sixteen since 1992...26 years ago except once playing for the title in 2001...17 years ago, and have only made it to the sweet 16 five times in the past 14 years. Last national championship was 1986...32 years ago.

Those are the gold standard names, but not gold standard on the court.

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Arizona is the only team remaining from the Pac 12. I think that USC should've made it, but regardless it's crazy to think that there is only 1 team from a P5 conference in the round of 64. (The actual tournament) Pac 12 basically a one bid league this year when you think about it.
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(03-14-2018 10:25 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Arizona is the only team remaining from the Pac 12. I think that USC should've made it, but regardless it's crazy to think that there is only 1 team from a P5 conference in the round of 64. (The actual tournament) Pac 12 basically a one bid league this year when you think about it.

Yup. Their representation in the NIT is strong with USC, Oregon, Utah, Washington and Stanford all winning their round 1 games. SO the Pac 12 has 5 of the remaining 16 teams.
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Just saw an NCAA buzzer beater video. UNCW included of course....03-weeping
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(03-15-2018 01:45 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Just saw an NCAA buzzer beater video. UNCW included of course....03-weeping

every damn year we have to re-live the Maryland BS
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UNCG hanging with Gonzaga
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Surprised the committee gave the Ivy League champ a 16th seed. That's a bold move considering Ivy League history and quality.
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(03-15-2018 02:28 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Surprised the committee gave the Ivy League champ a 16th seed. That's a bold move considering Ivy League history and quality.

Self said so himself Sunday night, he couldnt believe Penn was a 16.
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