Don't know what anyone else would have brought to the table. But a plus with McGrath is he put together a really good staff. I think it's been a good while since we have had a true big man coach. And I believe we also have a good recruiting base.

(03-29-2018 01:35 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Dooley most certainly has the best background of the 3.. but he's always looking for the next best thing. He would've bolted if he had success for more money at first chance, just like Keatts. I don't think Jimmy was interested in that. Pasternak doesn't have much history in this area of the country, I just don't know how well that would've worked out. I really think C.B. is vested in taking the program to new heights. Not saying there aren't jobs he would leave for if he had success, and got the chance. But I don't get the feel he took the job as a stepping stone either.

A certain unnamed donor was pushing hard for Pasternack, but I think he realized his connections and interest were on the west coast. I preferred McGrath over Dooley for the reasons stated. He is always looking for the next better job.

(03-29-2018 01:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 01:35 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Dooley most certainly has the best background of the 3.. but he's always looking for the next best thing. He would've bolted if he had success for more money at first chance, just like Keatts. I don't think Jimmy was interested in that. Pasternak doesn't have much history in this area of the country, I just don't know how well that would've worked out. I really think C.B. is vested in taking the program to new heights. Not saying there aren't jobs he would leave for if he had success, and got the chance. But I don't get the feel he took the job as a stepping stone either.

A certain unnamed donor was pushing hard for Pasternack, but I think he realized his connections and interest were on the west coast. I preferred McGrath over Dooley for the reasons stated. He is always looking for the next better job.

I had always assumed the donor you are referencing was involved with Pasternack getting an interview, but never looked to much into it. Makes a lot of sense though.

I really like McGrath and think that he will get it done over time. He's building piece by piece and plays inside out ball. We need another good big right about now and another good guard to round it out. The big thing for him will be if he can get good rim protection and to continue to improve ball pressure. We have enough offense but even that can and will become more efficient. He values rebounding and I really like that part of his equation towards success. He's also getting some pretty good wing/guard size too. That gets overlooked. Length plus some quicks goes a long way.

(03-29-2018 09:47 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  I really like McGrath and think that he will get it done over time. He's building piece by piece and plays inside out ball. We need another good big right about now and another good guard to round it out. The big thing for him will be if he can get good rim protection and to continue to improve ball pressure. We have enough offense but even that can and will become more efficient. He values rebounding and I really like that part of his equation towards success. He's also getting some pretty good wing/guard size too. That gets overlooked. Length plus some quicks goes a long way.

it will be interesting to see who steps up to offensively push the pace. Last year when Talley was out they looked lost at times.

(03-30-2018 08:03 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 09:47 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  I really like McGrath and think that he will get it done over time. He's building piece by piece and plays inside out ball. We need another good big right about now and another good guard to round it out. The big thing for him will be if he can get good rim protection and to continue to improve ball pressure. We have enough offense but even that can and will become more efficient. He values rebounding and I really like that part of his equation towards success. He's also getting some pretty good wing/guard size too. That gets overlooked. Length plus some quicks goes a long way.

it will be interesting to see who steps up to offensively push the pace. Last year when Talley was out they looked lost at times.

Toews looks like a PG that isn’t afraid to score. He has what looks like a similar game to Talley with a few more inches of size. I think we’re in for a treat with this kid. No disrespect to Talley in this. He’s one of my favorite Seahawks. I do think though, that Toews looks capable.


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(03-30-2018 08:23 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 08:03 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 09:47 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  I really like McGrath and think that he will get it done over time. He's building piece by piece and plays inside out ball. We need another good big right about now and another good guard to round it out. The big thing for him will be if he can get good rim protection and to continue to improve ball pressure. We have enough offense but even that can and will become more efficient. He values rebounding and I really like that part of his equation towards success. He's also getting some pretty good wing/guard size too. That gets overlooked. Length plus some quicks goes a long way.

it will be interesting to see who steps up to offensively push the pace. Last year when Talley was out they looked lost at times.

Toews looks like a PG that isn’t afraid to score. He has what looks like a similar game to Talley with a few more inches of size. I think we’re in for a treat with this kid. No disrespect to Talley in this. He’s one of my favorite Seahawks. I do think though, that Toews looks capable.


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i like the looks of him too, but i'm hesitant to think that a freshman will have that much impact. It doesn't happen often at this level.

(03-30-2018 08:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 08:23 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 08:03 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 09:47 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  I really like McGrath and think that he will get it done over time. He's building piece by piece and plays inside out ball. We need another good big right about now and another good guard to round it out. The big thing for him will be if he can get good rim protection and to continue to improve ball pressure. We have enough offense but even that can and will become more efficient. He values rebounding and I really like that part of his equation towards success. He's also getting some pretty good wing/guard size too. That gets overlooked. Length plus some quicks goes a long way.

it will be interesting to see who steps up to offensively push the pace. Last year when Talley was out they looked lost at times.

Toews looks like a PG that isn’t afraid to score. He has what looks like a similar game to Talley with a few more inches of size. I think we’re in for a treat with this kid. No disrespect to Talley in this. He’s one of my favorite Seahawks. I do think though, that Toews looks capable.


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i like the looks of him too, but i'm hesitant to think that a freshman will have that much impact. It doesn't happen often at this level.

Blizzard. Goldsberry. Talley. Arguably... Tomko.

Since we're talking about "this level", let's also look at other recent CAA freshmen who had big impacts recently for their squads:

Ryan Daly (Del)
Nathan Knight (WM)
Matt Lewis (JMU)
Ryan Allen (Del)
Grant Riller (CoC)

Toews can absolutely come in and compete right away and have a significant impact as a freshman. That's the great thing about "this level".

(03-30-2018 09:58 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 08:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 08:23 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 08:03 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 09:47 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  I really like McGrath and think that he will get it done over time. He's building piece by piece and plays inside out ball. We need another good big right about now and another good guard to round it out. The big thing for him will be if he can get good rim protection and to continue to improve ball pressure. We have enough offense but even that can and will become more efficient. He values rebounding and I really like that part of his equation towards success. He's also getting some pretty good wing/guard size too. That gets overlooked. Length plus some quicks goes a long way.

it will be interesting to see who steps up to offensively push the pace. Last year when Talley was out they looked lost at times.

Toews looks like a PG that isn’t afraid to score. He has what looks like a similar game to Talley with a few more inches of size. I think we’re in for a treat with this kid. No disrespect to Talley in this. He’s one of my favorite Seahawks. I do think though, that Toews looks capable.


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i like the looks of him too, but i'm hesitant to think that a freshman will have that much impact. It doesn't happen often at this level.

Blizzard. Goldsberry. Talley. Arguably... Tomko.

Since we're talking about "this level", let's also look at other recent CAA freshmen who had big impacts recently for their squads:

Ryan Daly (Del)
Nathan Knight (WM)
Matt Lewis (JMU)
Ryan Allen (Del)
Grant Riller (CoC)

Toews can absolutely come in and compete right away and have a significant impact as a freshman. That's the great thing about "this level".

you named two of the greatest ever in our program. Talley was a role player as a Freshman. Sorry i just try to temper my expectations with freshman, I've expected too much in the past and been disappointed.

(03-30-2018 12:54 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 09:58 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 08:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 08:23 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-30-2018 08:03 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  it will be interesting to see who steps up to offensively push the pace. Last year when Talley was out they looked lost at times.

Toews looks like a PG that isn’t afraid to score. He has what looks like a similar game to Talley with a few more inches of size. I think we’re in for a treat with this kid. No disrespect to Talley in this. He’s one of my favorite Seahawks. I do think though, that Toews looks capable.


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i like the looks of him too, but i'm hesitant to think that a freshman will have that much impact. It doesn't happen often at this level.

Blizzard. Goldsberry. Talley. Arguably... Tomko.

Since we're talking about "this level", let's also look at other recent CAA freshmen who had big impacts recently for their squads:

Ryan Daly (Del)
Nathan Knight (WM)
Matt Lewis (JMU)
Ryan Allen (Del)
Grant Riller (CoC)

Toews can absolutely come in and compete right away and have a significant impact as a freshman. That's the great thing about "this level".

you named two of the greatest ever in our program. Talley was a role player as a Freshman. Sorry i just try to temper my expectations with freshman, I've expected too much in the past and been disappointed.

A role player huh?

Dude... he was named to the CAA's All-Rookie team. That's not role player level achievement.

Here's a list of his freshman year achievements per http://www.uncwsports.com:

-Named to CAA’s All-Rookie Team
-Led team in assists with 98 dimes and ranked fourth in scoring with 8.8 ppg
-Paced club in scoring four times and in assists in 16 games
-Reached double figures in scoring 13 times
-Started all 20 CAA games in freshman campaign
-Scored 12 points and dished out six assists at Sam Houston State in CIT
-Led team with 18 points on 7-of-9 shooting in CAA semifinals vs. Northeastern
-Scored 11 points with three rebounds and three assists vs. JMU
-Made six game-clinching free throws in final 23 seconds at Towson
-Collected 11 points, three assists and four steals at Delaware
-Selected CAA Rookie-of-the-Week for second time on Feb. 16, 2014
-Collected 14 points, two rebounds and three assists vs. Northeastern
-Reached double figures for seventh time with team-high 18 points vs. Charleston
-Scored nine points with three rebounds and two assists vs. W&M
-Started and had eight points and three rebounds at JMU
-Contributed 16 points on 5-of-8 shooting at Drexel
-Dished out game-high six assists in 82-65 victory vs. Elon
-Scored 17 points in career-high 37 minutes at Hofstra
-Dished out game-high six assists in 36 minutes at W&M
-Exploded for career-high 21 points in 31 minutes at NU
-Made first start of career vs. Hofstra on Jan. 3, 2015
-Dished out seven assists at Minnesota
-Reached double figures for second time with 10 points vs. Campbell
-Contributed eight points for the second straight game in win over East Carolina
-Scored eight points off bench vs. Liberty
-Named CAA Rookie-of-the-Week following performance against #4 Louisville
-Scored 13 points in 26 minutes at Louisville
-Had nine points and three rebounds vs. St. Andrews
-Played 14 minutes at Davidson and had four points and two boards
-Provided lift off bench at VMI, scoring nine points with three rebounds
-Scored four points with two rebounds and two assists at UNCG
-Played 14 minutes in first collegiate appearance at ODU on Nov. 15, 2014

Role player.

Amazed at the totalitarian mindset of fans on this band. If you have any differing opinion the same three or four people insist on attacking it. People have good differing opinions, doesn't mean they don't like the team or program.

If you gave more specifics, you wouldn't run into problems. Lack of depth is one thing to write, but point out exactly what that projects out to be next year looking ahead. There should be plenty of guard/wing options so depth is hardly an issue. PG position isn't a lock but it can be good and you have the walk on who can play. Down low we have to see how Matt works out and the athletic transfer that can play 4. The recruits are certainly highly thought of and we don't know how Estime will end up as he is projectable (89th best player ESPN) plus Gary. Heck, even the big kid may improve and be more of a factor. I've seen a whole lot worse situations.

(03-30-2018 03:42 PM)Rueben Kincaid Wrote:  Amazed at the totalitarian mindset of fans on this band. If you have any differing opinion the same three or four people insist on attacking it. People have good differing opinions, doesn't mean they don't like the team or program.

You have anything to show that anyone said or insinuated that a fellow poster doesn't like a UNCW team or program?

There is a significant difference between saying that “we need major upgrades in talent at all positions other than Cacok's. We do not have upper level CAA talent," and "we lack depth." I’m open to discussion, and I have stated that I would be much more comfortable if we explored a F/C via grad transfer. I have no idea what Cylla and Ellmore offer next year but it makes me nervous. In other words, I think we lack the needed post depth. We have offers to two JUCO guards, Jervae and Channel. Signing one of those guys makes me a lot more comfortable with our guard depth. IMO, Cacok, Taylor and Fornes are legit CAA starters, and I still believe that Estime is going to be a good CAA player (Sims and Toews come in with a very good reputation as well). I'm fine if you disagree with me, but stating we don't have talent with nothing to back up your opinion, while stating it as fact, is what I have taken exception to.

This board is not for the thin skinned.

For clarification, it's not like we have a huge amount of posters here. In terms of regulars, I can count us using my fingers it seems. The odds that we all agree on everything is slim to none, as with any debatable topic in life. So if you have differing opinions and only a handful of posters, it's always going to seem like similar people debating.

However, if you just look over the last week's worth of posts on this board... the same people debating opinions (myself included) can be seen agreeing with the same individuals from time to time.

So let's ease up on the overreacting and hyper-sensitivity. There's plenty of that in the world without needing "safe spaces" here at the Hawk's Nest.

Just making an observation, certainly not concerned or hurt. I will keep on expressing my 100 % correct opinions until I forget my log in credentials again.

(03-31-2018 02:22 PM)Rueben Kincaid Wrote:  Just making an observation, certainly not concerned or hurt. I will keep on expressing my 100 % correct opinions until I forget my log in credentials again.

And I will 110% support, defend and maintain your right to do so.

I suggest jotting down your credentials somewhere you won't lose them.

I like the posting name of Reuben Kincaid. I just remembered that he was the manager for the Patridge Family back in the day. Man, TV was awesome back then....

ECU has agreed to terms with Joe Dooley to become its next head basketball coach. I think this is an exceptional hire by ECU. He definitely has what it takes to turn that program around. I wasn't around during his first stint at ECU, but something tells me I'm going to enjoy rooting against him.