The MAC announced the All conference, freshmen and defensive teams today...

http://getsomemaction.com/news/2018/3/5/...teams.aspx

Quote:2017-18 All-MAC First Team
Tre’Shaun Fletcher, Sr., G, Toledo
C.J. Massinburg, Jr., G, Buffalo
Nick Perkins, Jr., F, Buffalo
James Thompson IV, Jr., F/C, Eastern Michigan
Thomas Wilder, Sr., G, Western Michigan

2017-18 All-MAC Second Team
Eugene German, So., G, Northern Illinois
Jeremy Harris, Jr., G, Buffalo
Tayler Persons, Jr., G, Ball State
Jaelan Sanford, Jr., G, Toledo
Demajeo Wiggins, Jr., F, Bowling Green

2017-18 All-MAC Third Team
Wes Clark, Sr., G, Buffalo
Elijah Minnie, R-Jr., F, Eastern Michigan
Trey Moses, Jr., C, Ball State
Darrian Ringo, Jr., G, Miami
Jaylin Walker, Jr., G, Kent State

2017-18 All-MAC Honorable Mention
Jordan Dartis, Jr., G, Ohio
Daniel Utomi, So., F, Akron
Justin Turner, R-Fr., G, Bowling Green
Nike Sibande, Fr., G, Miami
Paul Jackson, R-Jr., G, Eastern Michigan

2017-18 MAC All-Defensive Team
Tim Bond, Sr., G, Eastern Michigan
Davonta Jordan, So., G, Buffalo
Bryce Moore, Jr., G, Western Michigan
Darrian Ringo, Jr., G, Miami
James Thompson IV, Jr., F/C, Eastern Michigan

2017-18 MAC All-Freshman Team
Dalonte Brown, Fr., F, Miami
Marreon Jackson, Fr., G, Toledo
Teyvion Kirk, Fr., G, Ohio
Nike Sibande, Fr., G, Miami
Justin Turner, R-Fr., G, Bowling Green

LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

(03-05-2018 03:41 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

Who should he have made it over?

(03-05-2018 03:41 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

maybe the fact that he's playing on the worst team in the league has something to do with it

(03-05-2018 04:24 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 03:41 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

maybe the fact that he's playing on the worst team in the league has something to do with it

Well good thing this is an individual award and not based on team results. No reason why the best scorer in the league is not 1st team. There’s plenty of examples of good players on bad teams being placed on all whatever lists.

(03-05-2018 05:12 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 04:24 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 03:41 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

maybe the fact that he's playing on the worst team in the league has something to do with it

Well good thing this is an individual award and not based on team results. No reason why the best scorer in the league is not 1st team. There’s plenty of examples of good players on bad teams being placed on all whatever lists.

I could argue German over Thomas Wilder based on this year's performances alone, but the thing with postseason awards is they become kind of like a lifetime achievement award. Juniors and Seniors are always going to win out

(03-05-2018 05:36 PM)BullBoy Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 05:12 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 04:24 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 03:41 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

maybe the fact that he's playing on the worst team in the league has something to do with it

Well good thing this is an individual award and not based on team results. No reason why the best scorer in the league is not 1st team. There’s plenty of examples of good players on bad teams being placed on all whatever lists.

I could argue German over Thomas Wilder based on this year's performances alone, but the thing with postseason awards is they become kind of like a lifetime achievement award. Juniors and Seniors are always going to win out

unless you're Gary Trent!

(03-05-2018 05:12 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 04:24 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 03:41 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

maybe the fact that he's playing on the worst team in the league has something to do with it

Well good thing this is an individual award and not based on team results. No reason why the best scorer in the league is not 1st team. There’s plenty of examples of good players on bad teams being placed on all whatever lists.

See Ty Kent. It happens. Dudes that shoot a ton and get points but don't do anything else don't always get first team

And for what it's worth id take any of those top 5 guys on my team over German

German is a gifted driver who can score at the rim with difficulty. Fun player to watch. Tough guy to guard. Overall: defense, passing, jump shooting, leadership probably not a 1st teamer, imo

(03-05-2018 05:12 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 04:24 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 03:41 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

maybe the fact that he's playing on the worst team in the league has something to do with it

Well good thing this is an individual award and not based on team results. No reason why the best scorer in the league is not 1st team. There’s plenty of examples of good players on bad teams being placed on all whatever lists.

How about because Guys like Perkins and Harris had to compete for points with Massinburg and Clark... There is a "down side" to having a deep team if you consider awards to be only a reflection of conference stat rankings.

Looking at that list....wasn't Central Michigan in the MAC this year?

(03-05-2018 08:53 PM)pono Wrote:  German is a gifted driver who can score at the rim with difficulty. Fun player to watch. Tough guy to guard. Overall: defense, passing, jump shooting, leadership probably not a 1st teamer, imo

Might not be the best passer but most of the time he had no one to pass to that was likely to score. Seems like our highest percentage play was German driving to the bucket against 3 defenders. Sad, but true.

(03-06-2018 07:28 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  Looking at that list....wasn't Central Michigan in the MAC this year?

We are a "meh" team and no one really stood out. We have 4 guys who contribute nicely but no one who truly sticks out as an All-MAC players. However, Cecil Williams had a pretty nice season and I was surprised to see him left off honorable mention.

15.2/6.3/2.6/1.1/1.1

He contributes everywhere, but isn't elite anywhere.

I would replace Walker with Zabo, if I were picking the most consistently productive KSU player.

(03-05-2018 03:41 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

Having watched him implode against Ringo in the Miami game, to me it seems a joke that he could make second team and Ringo is only on the third team. Actually, Ringo also shut down Persons in their head to head matchup. He has had a season in which he finished in the top 5 all time in the MAC in both steals and assists, but he is only averaging 9.5ppg ( does not usually shoot very much) and I think many voters look first at ppg.

Defensive Player of the year: Tim Bond, EMU
Sixth Man of the Year: Nick Perkins, UB
Freshman of the Year: Nike Sibande, Miami

Player of the Year and Coach of the Year to be announced tomorrow

(03-06-2018 02:05 PM)Eagle66 Wrote:  Defensive Player of the year: Tim Bond, EMU
Sixth Man of the Year: Nick Perkins, UB
Freshman of the Year: Nike Sibande, Miami

Wow, I figured Teyvion Kirk had Freshman of the Year locked up. Sibande had a hell of a season, though.

(03-06-2018 01:50 PM)DICK Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 03:41 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  LOL what a joke that German was not on the 1st team

Having watched him implode against Ringo in the Miami game, to me it seems a joke that he could make second team and Ringo is only on the third team. Actually, Ringo also shut down Persons in their head to head matchup. He has had a season in which he finished in the top 5 all time in the MAC in both steals and assists, but he is only averaging 9.5ppg ( does not usually shoot very much) and I think many voters look first at ppg.

Riiiingoooo, Ringoooooooo.......