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College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Virginia (30) 23-2 1,557
2 Michigan State (21) 24-3 1,527
3 Villanova (9) 23-2 1,518
4 Xavier (5) 23-3 1,465
5 Cincinnati 23-2 1,359
6 Purdue 23-4 1,269
7 Texas Tech 21-4 1,258
8 Ohio State 22-5 1,094
9 Gonzaga 23-4 1,063
10 Auburn 22-3 1,025
11 Clemson 20-4 945
12 Duke 20-5 942
13 Kansas 19-6 816
14 North Carolina 19-7 763
15 Saint Mary's 24-3 683
16 Rhode Island 20-3 666
17 Arizona 20-6 594
18 Tennessee 18-6 580
19 Wichita State 19-5 495
20 West Virginia 18-7 339
21 Texas A&M 17-8 241
22 Michigan 20-7 239
23 Oklahoma 16-8 152
24 Nevada 21-5 87
25 Arizona State 19-6 83

Others receiving votes: New Mexico State 66, Florida 48, Creighton 44, Butler 43, Virginia Tech 29, Middle Tennessee 26, Alabama 22, Houston 16, Nebraska 15, Missouri 14, Miami 10, Kentucky 8, TCU 8, East Tennessee State 5, Oklahoma State 4, St. Bonaventure 3, Louisville 2, Florida State 1, Vermont 1


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Chris DachilleJustin Jackson

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David CloningerJon RothsteinTony Parks

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Brian McInnisDoug DoughtyJustin FergusonRick BozichScott WolfShannon RyanTerry HutchensTheo Lawson

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Andrew LopezBob HoltBrant WilkersonCarlos SilvaCecil HurtChris MurrayDave BorgesDave MatterDavid CobbGeoff GrammerJerry CarinoJoe JulianoJoe RexrodeJoey KnightJohn BohnenkampJohn FeinsteinJohn McNamaraJon WilnerKevin BrockwayMarcus FullerMatt McCoyNorm WoodRichard CroomeScott RicheySheldon MicklesTerry TooheyThuc Nhi Nguyen

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Antonio MoralesDick VitaleKevin LyttleLuke DeCockMatt VautourScott GleesonTyson AlgerZach Osterman

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Ben SteeleJ.P. ButlerJason ButtJon NyatawaMark Cooper

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Seth Davis

9
Graham Couch


Coaches Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Michigan State (17) 24-3 763
2 Villanova (8) 23-2 742
3 Virginia (5) 23-2 736
4 Xavier (1) 23-3 719
5 Cincinnati (1) 23-2 675
6 Texas Tech 21-4 604
7 Purdue 23-4 601
8 Gonzaga 23-4 542
9 Ohio State 22-5 517
10 Duke 20-5 486
11 Auburn 22-3 447
12 Clemson 20-4 424
13 Kansas 19-6 393
14 Rhode Island 20-3 342
15 Saint Mary's 24-3 341
16 North Carolina 19-7 314
17 Tennessee 18-6 290
18 Wichita State 19-5 250
19 Arizona 20-6 237
20 West Virginia 18-7 184
21 Michigan 20-7 174
22 Arizona State 19-6 88
23 Oklahoma 16-8 87
24 Nevada 21-5 76
25 Creighton 18-7 62
Others receiving votes: Florida 57, Texas A&M 51, Middle Tennessee 32, New Mexico State 30, Houston 25, Miami 23, Butler 20, Nebraska 18, Virginia Tech 17, Alabama 6, UCLA 6, Loyola-Chicago 6, Louisville 5, Kentucky 4, Seton Hall 3, TCU 2, East Tennessee State 1
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
Damn. Three Ohio teams among the top 8. With all three playing in separate conferences, the Selection Committee could have some seeding fun with that.
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
Wow...two guys have us number 2? That seems a bit high honestly...5 sounds just right and man does that look good to be that high in the rankings again! 04-cheers

It's insane to think that there are two schools in the same city of 300,000 people who are ranked together in the Top 5 and neither are a state flagship.
 
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(02-12-2018 12:56 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Wow...two guys have us number 2? That seems a bit high honestly...5 sounds just right and man does that look good to be that high in the rankings again! 04-cheers

Thankfully one of those guys is Justin Jackson
 
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UC could finish 32-2 and win both the AAC regular season and conference tourney and Seth Davis and Graham Couch would put the Bearcats in the 8-9 category.
 
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In the interest of fairness in recognizing ridiculous rankings...someone needs to take away Jesse Newell's credentials. His rankings are all over the place!
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
(02-12-2018 01:04 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  UC could finish 32-2 and win both the AAC regular season and conference tourney and Seth Davis and Graham Couch would put the Bearcats in the 8-9 category.

UC also has one #1 vote in the Coaches' Poll. Just sayin'.
 
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(02-12-2018 01:04 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  UC could finish 32-2 and win both the AAC regular season and conference tourney and Seth Davis and Graham Couch would put the Bearcats in the 8-9 category.

Where do you see the breakdown of ballots?
 
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Wichita moved up to 19 in the AP, 18 in the Coaches.

Hopefully they keep winning until they run into a Bearcat Buzzsaw. Twice.
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
Seth Davis, Sunday during the selection show: I would move Cincinnati down to a 3-seed and Michigan St. up to a 2-seed.

Seth Davis, voting for the AP poll: Cincinnati is #8 overall.

Can't catch a break with some of these guys...
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
Well, it's mostly conjecture at this point anyway. UC can further challenge some of the doubters with two more wins this week. Tall order, but I'm beginning to believe this team is demonstrating they have a very high ceiling.
 
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(02-12-2018 01:34 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Seth Davis, Sunday during the selection show: I would move Cincinnati down to a 3-seed and Michigan St. up to a 2-seed.

Seth Davis, voting for the AP poll: Cincinnati is #8 overall.

Can't catch a break with some of these guys...
How good a team is and what seed they've earned aren't the same thing. I look at our Kenpom and BPI and I think we're a top 4 team and openly admit we shouldn't be a #1 seed at this point. The opposite of that is I don't have an issue with Xavier's seeding although their predictive analytic numbers say they're in the 10-15 range. Seeding is about what your resume says, not how good you are.
 
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(02-12-2018 01:39 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 01:34 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Seth Davis, Sunday during the selection show: I would move Cincinnati down to a 3-seed and Michigan St. up to a 2-seed.

Seth Davis, voting for the AP poll: Cincinnati is #8 overall.

Can't catch a break with some of these guys...
How good a team is and what seed they've earned aren't the same thing. I look at our Kenpom and BPI and I think we're a top 4 team and openly admit we shouldn't be a #1 seed at this point. The opposite of that is I don't have an issue with Xavier's seeding although their predictive analytic numbers say they're in the 10-15 range. Seeding is about what your resume says, not how good you are.

Sure, but, we still have the resume for a 2-seed. It doesn't make sense for someone to rank us #8 and then declare that we don't deserve a 2-seed.
 
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I don't have historical information but I suspect a number of voters were beginning to question Villanova's rankings and seedings after a run of several excellent regular seasons for their program ended early in March Madness. When Jay Wright and company finally broke through for a national championship, the Wildcats starting getting more respect. Fair or not, it's often earned in the tournament.
 
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(02-12-2018 01:08 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  UC also has one #1 vote in the Coaches' Poll. Just sayin'.

Are we taking odds who it was? I highlighted a few favorites consisting of past opponents this year and former places of employment.


The USA TODAY Sports Board of Coaches is made up of 32 head coaches at Division I institutions. All are members of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. The board for the 2017-18 season:

Randy Bennett, Saint Mary's; Jim Boeheim, Syracuse; Tad Boyle, Colorado; Todd Bozeman, Morgan State; Glenn Braica, St. Francis Brooklyn; Scott Cherry, High Point; Tim Cluess, Iona; Jon Coffman, IP-Fort Wayne; Scott Drew, Baylor; Matt Driscoll, North Florida; Fran Dunphy, Temple; Bill Evans, Idaho State; Mark Fox, Georgia; John Gallagher, Hartford; Matthew Graves, South Alabama; Steve Hawkins, Western Michigan; Steve Henson, Texas-San Antonio; George Ivory, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Ben Jacobson, Northern Iowa; James Jones, Yale; Greg Kampe, Oakland; Mike McConathy, Northwestern State; Greg McDermott, Creighton; Matt McMahon, Murray State; Dan Monson, Long Beach State; Chris Mooney, Richmond; Matt Painter, Purdue; Dave Pilipovich, Air Force; Brett Reed, Lehigh; Kareem Richardson, Missouri-Kansas City; Zach Spiker, Drexel; Mike Young, Wofford
 
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I'm good at #5. At least Dookie V. had us higher than #8. Just keep winning.
 
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(02-12-2018 02:08 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 01:08 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  UC also has one #1 vote in the Coaches' Poll. Just sayin'.

Are we taking odds who it was? I highlighted a few favorites consisting of past opponents this year and former places of employment.


The USA TODAY Sports Board of Coaches is made up of 32 head coaches at Division I institutions. All are members of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. The board for the 2017-18 season:

Randy Bennett, Saint Mary's; Jim Boeheim, Syracuse; Tad Boyle, Colorado; Todd Bozeman, Morgan State; Glenn Braica, St. Francis Brooklyn; Scott Cherry, High Point; Tim Cluess, Iona; Jon Coffman, IP-Fort Wayne; Scott Drew, Baylor; Matt Driscoll, North Florida; Fran Dunphy, Temple; Bill Evans, Idaho State; Mark Fox, Georgia; John Gallagher, Hartford; Matthew Graves, South Alabama; Steve Hawkins, Western Michigan; Steve Henson, Texas-San Antonio; George Ivory, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Ben Jacobson, Northern Iowa; James Jones, Yale; Greg Kampe, Oakland; Mike McConathy, Northwestern State; Greg McDermott, Creighton; Matt McMahon, Murray State; Dan Monson, Long Beach State; Chris Mooney, Richmond; Matt Painter, Purdue; Dave Pilipovich, Air Force; Brett Reed, Lehigh; Kareem Richardson, Missouri-Kansas City; Zach Spiker, Drexel; Mike Young, Wofford

Fran would be my guess. The game here I have never seen a coach with such a forlorn look on his face like there was absolutely nothing he could do to change what was going down.
 
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