Ask Louisville about missed free throws...and missed opportunity to upset #1.

How many games did we lose where we also performed better on the FT line?

I'll wait...

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(03-03-2018 05:04 PM)Tribal Wrote:  How many games did we lose where we also performed better on the FT line?

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Well, how many of those same games were we still "in it" because we made FTs even though we eventually lost? You either get it or you don't. I (and others) have provided more than enough examples.

The last time I pointed out several games where we dominated on the FT line and still lost, you called my post "snide." I also pointed out that there are top 25 teams, who win a ton of games against big opponents, who are amongst the worst in the NCAA from the FT line. Your comeback to that was you wouldn't bet on them in the NCAAT. Either way, you'll never actually prove anything but you're happy to resurrect the subject whenever you're feeling lonely, so, by all means...



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(02-16-2018 09:41 AM)Zorch Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 11:07 PM)Tribal Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 09:54 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 07:41 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I hear free throws wins games so we're fine

All snide comments from Tribal aside, it is still just as true as ever:

I guess you gave up sense of humor for lent.

Hitting free throws is just an old fuddy duddy angle. Some of the top teams in the country suck on the free throw line and seem to win a lot of games. And, just tonight, we hit more free throws and bested them by 11% and still lost. We were significantly better vs CoC and got smoked. If you're going to thump your chest and single-line post, "I keep telling you all free throws wins games," like you discovered a vaccination for losing, then suck it up the numerous times it simply isn't so.

So you are saying it wasn't so yesterday? What part of "Hofstra made 12 of their last 13 free throws, in the last 7:26, including 4 in a row from Gustys." does not fit the description that making free throws wins games? Remember, the axiom applies to the other team as well, not just W&M. Hofstra made 12-13 of their late FTs and that iced the game for them.

What part of Pierce missing 5 FTs (6 if you count the back end of an and-one that he didn't shoot because he missed the front end) does not fit the description of missing free throws loses games?

Your argument about the top teams not being good at FTs does not fly. You don't think that those coaches wouldn't dearly love to be better in that statistic? Just take a close look during the NCAA tournament (or all the conference tournaments) and see how many teams blow it by not shooting their FTs well enough. I wonder how many of your "top teams" are going to end up blowing it at the FT line?

If knowing this makes me an "old fuddy duddy" then perhaps more teams need to get back to the basics. W&M's great FT shooting has helped us win a bunch of these games.

(03-03-2018 09:16 PM)Tribal Wrote:  The last time I pointed out several games where we dominated on the FT line and still lost, you called my post "snide." I also pointed out that there are top 25 teams, who win a ton of games against big opponents, who are amongst the worst in the NCAA from the FT line. Your comeback to that was you wouldn't bet on them in the NCAAT. Either way, you'll never actually prove anything but you're happy to resurrect the subject whenever you're feeling lonely, so, by all means...

Get the facts straight, Tribal. The post I called "snide" is quoted above. The post above also backed up what I said about making free throws wins games and missing free throws loses games. Then earlier today (Post 220) I further backed up my contention with examples from a dozen conference games this week (which I had predicted in the earlier post would cause some teams heartburn during conference/NCAA tourney games). So read the posts and you get all the back up (proof) that you need. Meanwhile, your response is that we have lost some games where we shot free throws at a better percentage than our opponent. First off, duh!, we are the best free throw shooting team in the country, so if that were to happen to anybody it would happen to us. We being an outlier from the norm doesn't make the truism any less true. I, for one, am gratified that the coaches and players have bought into free throw shooting enough that they obviously practice their free throws and take it seriously. I guess that you won't take it seriously until, heaven forbid, we lose one of these tournament games at the free throw line. Hopefully, it will be the other team that proves the maxim by losing it at the free throw line.