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RE: What grinds your gears?
the homeless fkbags that think my lily white privileges should subsidized their nicotine habit and come with the "fk you ************" when the response to the question of, "mayun, ya got a smoke?" turns into, "yeah, I have plenty pal, do ewe?!"

yeah, I have too much fonzies in the field....

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(01-23-2022 06:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the homeless fkbags that think my lily white privileges should subsidized their nicotine habit and come with the "fk you ************" when the response to the question of, "mayun, ya got a smoke?" turns into, "yeah, I have plenty pal, do ewe?!"

yeah, I have too much fonzies in the field....

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Used to have a homeless guy who worked outside my office who was allegedly dying of cancer (after 9 years we moved to a different location, idk if the guy is on the same corner pulling the same graft).
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RE: What grinds your gears?
(01-24-2022 02:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(01-23-2022 06:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the homeless fkbags that think my lily white privileges should subsidized their nicotine habit and come with the "fk you ************" when the response to the question of, "mayun, ya got a smoke?" turns into, "yeah, I have plenty pal, do ewe?!"

yeah, I have too much fonzies in the field....

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Used to have a homeless guy who worked outside my office who was allegedly dying of cancer (after 9 years we moved to a different location, idk if the guy is on the same corner pulling the same graft).


y'all should've dubbed that pet, Elizabeth...



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RE: What grinds your gears?
Not so much of a gear grinder but just an observation- does anyone else feel like people are watching a different movie than you are? I am all for people having different opinions and gathering information from different places, but the vary notion of what is going on in the world is so stark. Out of curiosity I pulled up CNN and the top seven headlines were all about Trump and 1/6. You had to scroll down the page to see anything about the Ukraine. Go to Fox or even the BBC, the Ukraine is the top headline. No mention of 1/6.
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(01-24-2022 06:31 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Not so much of a gear grinder but just an observation- does anyone else feel like people are watching a different movie than you are? I am all for people having different opinions and gathering information from different places, but the vary notion of what is going on in the world is so stark. Out of curiosity I pulled up CNN and the top seven headlines were all about Trump and 1/6. You had to scroll down the page to see anything about the Ukraine. Go to Fox or even the BBC, the Ukraine is the top headline. No mention of 1/6.

That is the most subtle--and probably most effective--way that bias in the news media rears its ugly head. If some commentator is very vocal about his/her position on issues, after a while people pretty much tune him/her out. But the editorial choice of what to cover and what to ignore can shape opinion mightily--as is their aim.
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(01-24-2022 06:31 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Not so much of a gear grinder but just an observation- does anyone else feel like people are watching a different movie than you are? I am all for people having different opinions and gathering information from different places, but the vary notion of what is going on in the world is so stark. Out of curiosity I pulled up CNN and the top seven headlines were all about Trump and 1/6. You had to scroll down the page to see anything about the Ukraine. Go to Fox or even the BBC, the Ukraine is the top headline. No mention of 1/6.

We interrupt Wheel of Fortune to bring you this breaking news: The People's Republic of China annexed California this afternoon. Now back to Pat and Vanna.

Why are a people who don't take control of their government entitled to know what it is or isn't doing in the real world? If it is not "Of the people, for the people, and by the people," and it is not, then you are on a need-to-know basis in this not nearly as free as you think country.
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RE: What grinds your gears?
Participation Trophy mentality.

Our team has been decimated by C19.

So we've run about half staff last week. Our director recognized it last week and gave kudos to myself and another co-worker for stepping up.

It was ruined because one of the sick ones was on the call and was upset they didn't get a kudos as well for keeping us healthy by staying home.

Two of the people are engaged to each other. There was some upset people and accusations flying saying we were trying to push them out by stepping in and covering for them.

The funniest part is this.. Anyone but those two get a pat, they want one or they'll start digging up things that wasn't done or wrong and try to bring you down. If they get a pat, it's theirs and by golly they want a raise for doing something good.

Completely mind boggling.
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(01-25-2022 10:32 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Participation Trophy mentality.

Our team has been decimated by C19.

So we've run about half staff last week. Our director recognized it last week and gave kudos to myself and another co-worker for stepping up.

It was ruined because one of the sick ones was on the call and was upset they didn't get a kudos as well for keeping us healthy by staying home.

Two of the people are engaged to each other. There was some upset people and accusations flying saying we were trying to push them out by stepping in and covering for them.

The funniest part is this.. Anyone but those two get a pat, they want one or they'll start digging up things that wasn't done or wrong and try to bring you down. If they get a pat, it's theirs and by golly they want a raise for doing something good.

Completely mind boggling.

The ironically funny part is that this generation calls us paranoid. Everything in your post reveals the depth of their narcissism, denies your and the other workers selflessness, and packages your selfless actions as an attack upon them, which last time I checked was classic paranoia.

If they were a batch of product we wouldn't distribute them. It's time we replaced the oven which baked these flakes and eliminate public education and give vouchers for private schools, or better yet offset income with tuition on the 1040.
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(01-25-2022 10:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:32 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Participation Trophy mentality.

Our team has been decimated by C19.

So we've run about half staff last week. Our director recognized it last week and gave kudos to myself and another co-worker for stepping up.

It was ruined because one of the sick ones was on the call and was upset they didn't get a kudos as well for keeping us healthy by staying home.

Two of the people are engaged to each other. There was some upset people and accusations flying saying we were trying to push them out by stepping in and covering for them.

The funniest part is this.. Anyone but those two get a pat, they want one or they'll start digging up things that wasn't done or wrong and try to bring you down. If they get a pat, it's theirs and by golly they want a raise for doing something good.

Completely mind boggling.

The ironically funny part is that this generation calls us paranoid. Everything in your post reveals the depth of their narcissism, denies your and the other workers selflessness, and packages your selfless actions as an attack upon them, which last time I checked was classic paranoia.

If they were a batch of product we wouldn't distribute them. It's time we replaced the oven which baked these flakes and eliminate public education and give vouchers for private schools, or better yet offset income with tuition on the 1040.

Like I said if the shoe was on the other foot, these two would be screaming for a raise.

Me and the other guy were like, we're doing what we can until they get back. It's what being part of a team is. He played college baseball, and I was a knee injury away from college football. We understand team mentality. Neither of us I would say played in roles that garnered superstar status, so we get it.

The other two, one didn't play sports that we know of and the other claims he was all world, but again when you hear him explain the PEDs he needed to be all world you realize he wasn't all world and he still didn't make it to the level to get to the next step without PEDs so he wasn't that great.

I've also found that when people brag about all they've done, it's not true. When they bring up how they saved something by themselves, it's because they put it in that position and want a huge thank you for cleaning the mess they created.
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RE: What grinds your gears?
(01-25-2022 10:58 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:32 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Participation Trophy mentality.

Our team has been decimated by C19.

So we've run about half staff last week. Our director recognized it last week and gave kudos to myself and another co-worker for stepping up.

It was ruined because one of the sick ones was on the call and was upset they didn't get a kudos as well for keeping us healthy by staying home.

Two of the people are engaged to each other. There was some upset people and accusations flying saying we were trying to push them out by stepping in and covering for them.

The funniest part is this.. Anyone but those two get a pat, they want one or they'll start digging up things that wasn't done or wrong and try to bring you down. If they get a pat, it's theirs and by golly they want a raise for doing something good.

Completely mind boggling.

The ironically funny part is that this generation calls us paranoid. Everything in your post reveals the depth of their narcissism, denies your and the other workers selflessness, and packages your selfless actions as an attack upon them, which last time I checked was classic paranoia.

If they were a batch of product we wouldn't distribute them. It's time we replaced the oven which baked these flakes and eliminate public education and give vouchers for private schools, or better yet offset income with tuition on the 1040.

Like I said if the shoe was on the other foot, these two would be screaming for a raise.

Me and the other guy were like, we're doing what we can until they get back. It's what being part of a team is. He played college baseball, and I was a knee injury away from college football. We understand team mentality. Neither of us I would say played in roles that garnered superstar status, so we get it.

The other two, one didn't play sports that we know of and the other claims he was all world, but again when you hear him explain the PEDs he needed to be all world you realize he wasn't all world and he still didn't make it to the level to get to the next step without PEDs so he wasn't that great.

I've also found that when people brag about all they've done, it's not true. When they bring up how they saved something by themselves, it's because they put it in that position and want a huge thank you for cleaning the mess they created.
Things which are no longer being taught:
Reason which is replaced by Being Accepted
Logic which is replaced by Order
Teamwork which is replaced by Pavlovian Recognition
Humility which is replaced by Participation Trophies
Cooperation which is replaced by Group Think
Sacrifice for a common good which is only rewarded if it doesn't involve initiative.
Initiative which is replaced by Risk Aversion and enforced by HR
Belief in things greater than self unless it is your Corporate Overlord
Appreciation which is not considered yours to give.
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RE: What grinds your gears?
(01-25-2022 11:10 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:58 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:32 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Participation Trophy mentality.

Our team has been decimated by C19.

So we've run about half staff last week. Our director recognized it last week and gave kudos to myself and another co-worker for stepping up.

It was ruined because one of the sick ones was on the call and was upset they didn't get a kudos as well for keeping us healthy by staying home.

Two of the people are engaged to each other. There was some upset people and accusations flying saying we were trying to push them out by stepping in and covering for them.

The funniest part is this.. Anyone but those two get a pat, they want one or they'll start digging up things that wasn't done or wrong and try to bring you down. If they get a pat, it's theirs and by golly they want a raise for doing something good.

Completely mind boggling.

The ironically funny part is that this generation calls us paranoid. Everything in your post reveals the depth of their narcissism, denies your and the other workers selflessness, and packages your selfless actions as an attack upon them, which last time I checked was classic paranoia.

If they were a batch of product we wouldn't distribute them. It's time we replaced the oven which baked these flakes and eliminate public education and give vouchers for private schools, or better yet offset income with tuition on the 1040.

Like I said if the shoe was on the other foot, these two would be screaming for a raise.

Me and the other guy were like, we're doing what we can until they get back. It's what being part of a team is. He played college baseball, and I was a knee injury away from college football. We understand team mentality. Neither of us I would say played in roles that garnered superstar status, so we get it.

The other two, one didn't play sports that we know of and the other claims he was all world, but again when you hear him explain the PEDs he needed to be all world you realize he wasn't all world and he still didn't make it to the level to get to the next step without PEDs so he wasn't that great.

I've also found that when people brag about all they've done, it's not true. When they bring up how they saved something by themselves, it's because they put it in that position and want a huge thank you for cleaning the mess they created.
Things which are no longer being taught:
Reason which is replaced by Being Accepted
Logic which is replaced by Order
Teamwork which is replaced by Pavlovian Recognition
Humility which is replaced by Participation Trophies
Cooperation which is replaced by Group Think
Sacrifice for a common good which is only rewarded if it doesn't involve initiative.
Initiative which is replaced by Risk Aversion and enforced by HR
Belief in things greater than self unless it is your Corporate Overlord
Appreciation which is not considered yours to give.

I grew up different. I've heard the "I grew up hard" and when I hear the stories from either, neither sound hard.

When I bring up stories of stump busting or hauling pulpwood or staying for days on end at my grandparents in the South MS heat and they didn't believe in AC, I was told I was soft. Same person complains when it's 80.. He wouldn't survive.
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(01-25-2022 11:19 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 11:10 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:58 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:32 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Participation Trophy mentality.

Our team has been decimated by C19.

So we've run about half staff last week. Our director recognized it last week and gave kudos to myself and another co-worker for stepping up.

It was ruined because one of the sick ones was on the call and was upset they didn't get a kudos as well for keeping us healthy by staying home.

Two of the people are engaged to each other. There was some upset people and accusations flying saying we were trying to push them out by stepping in and covering for them.

The funniest part is this.. Anyone but those two get a pat, they want one or they'll start digging up things that wasn't done or wrong and try to bring you down. If they get a pat, it's theirs and by golly they want a raise for doing something good.

Completely mind boggling.

The ironically funny part is that this generation calls us paranoid. Everything in your post reveals the depth of their narcissism, denies your and the other workers selflessness, and packages your selfless actions as an attack upon them, which last time I checked was classic paranoia.

If they were a batch of product we wouldn't distribute them. It's time we replaced the oven which baked these flakes and eliminate public education and give vouchers for private schools, or better yet offset income with tuition on the 1040.

Like I said if the shoe was on the other foot, these two would be screaming for a raise.

Me and the other guy were like, we're doing what we can until they get back. It's what being part of a team is. He played college baseball, and I was a knee injury away from college football. We understand team mentality. Neither of us I would say played in roles that garnered superstar status, so we get it.

The other two, one didn't play sports that we know of and the other claims he was all world, but again when you hear him explain the PEDs he needed to be all world you realize he wasn't all world and he still didn't make it to the level to get to the next step without PEDs so he wasn't that great.

I've also found that when people brag about all they've done, it's not true. When they bring up how they saved something by themselves, it's because they put it in that position and want a huge thank you for cleaning the mess they created.
Things which are no longer being taught:
Reason which is replaced by Being Accepted
Logic which is replaced by Order
Teamwork which is replaced by Pavlovian Recognition
Humility which is replaced by Participation Trophies
Cooperation which is replaced by Group Think
Sacrifice for a common good which is only rewarded if it doesn't involve initiative.
Initiative which is replaced by Risk Aversion and enforced by HR
Belief in things greater than self unless it is your Corporate Overlord
Appreciation which is not considered yours to give.

I grew up different. I've heard the "I grew up hard" and when I hear the stories from either, neither sound hard.

When I bring up stories of stump busting or hauling pulpwood or staying for days on end at my grandparents in the South MS heat and they didn't believe in AC, I was told I was soft. Same person complains when it's 80.. He wouldn't survive.

I get it. I'm saying they have been carefully and systemically trained to be self centered idiots. They don't show Pinocchio anymore because of the part where the boys were turned into jackasses.

I spent Summers with my grandparents in rural Alabama. We slept in hot weather with a fan blowing and the windows up. I worked with my grandfather starting at 12 shoveling down the sawdust pile and stacking slabs in a Diesel driven 00 Frick sawmill cutting lumber and crossties. I lived what you lived. In high school I bailed hay in the fall on my best friend's farm and we stacked cross ties at my grandfather's mill in summer, and we both preferred the crossties.

When you look at someone under 35 you are looking at people who didn't start work until college was done, unless they had work study, and that's not work. They don't read and can't do math. All they know are electronic devices and if you smart off to a device it doesn't bust your chops. Teamwork is taught by overcoming adversity and football teaches that. Baseball teaches geography and reason. You learn the best angles to the ball and anticipate force and direction by the sound and position of the bat when the ball is struck. These kids can't think, can't solve problems, and are an accident waiting to happen in real-time production because they don't trust their own minds, only devices. It's pathetic, and why our ass will be toast in an actual shooting war where nukes are never practical if both sides have them. Young people today aren't just soft, they are incapable of handling any stress.

BTW: Stacking crossties was the best thing that ever happened to my batting. Bat speed and power suddenly appeared.
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RE: What grinds your gears?
I remember two a days when I got to high school on hot summer days... Guys would be dropping like flies. Coach would look at me and say why aren't you catching cramps or hurting. Told him I didn't know.

One of the guys said he's not putting out what I'm putting out. So the coach decided to play bull in the ring, and I was the bull the next day. After that we did all these other drills and he was on my tail making sure I was pushing hard. Again guys dropping like flies and I was still good.

He then said, son what did you do yesterday before and after practice. Well I got up and came here. Then I went to work where we built shade (I was old enough to have a real job, and I was working putting up awning at a high school) until 3. Then I went to the shop and unloaded the truck, and re-loaded for tomorrow. Left at 4 and got here so I could cool off, it's cooler here than at the shop. Practiced, then went home, cut grass and ran the weed eater for about 20 minutes. Showered, ate dinner, and went to bed.

He looked at the guy that said I hadn't been pushing.. You.. Coach I got up, came to practice, went home and played Playstation until afternoon.

Dunn, what did you eat and drink yesterday. Water, Gatorade, had a banana with a sandwich at lunch. Ate a snickers on the way to practice. We did chicken and rice last night with water and sweet tea.

You? Coach I had a burger from McDonald's. Drank cokes all day. For dinner we ordered pizza, why.

No reason.
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(01-25-2022 11:52 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I remember two a days when I got to high school on hot summer days... Guys would be dropping like flies. Coach would look at me and say why aren't you catching cramps or hurting. Told him I didn't know.

One of the guys said he's not putting out what I'm putting out. So the coach decided to play bull in the ring, and I was the bull the next day. After that we did all these other drills and he was on my tail making sure I was pushing hard. Again guys dropping like flies and I was still good.

He then said, son what did you do yesterday before and after practice. Well I got up and came here. Then I went to work where we built shade (I was old enough to have a real job, and I was working putting up awning at a high school) until 3. Then I went to the shop and unloaded the truck, and re-loaded for tomorrow. Left at 4 and got here so I could cool off, it's cooler here than at the shop. Practiced, then went home, cut grass and ran the weed eater for about 20 minutes. Showered, ate dinner, and went to bed.

He looked at the guy that said I hadn't been pushing.. You.. Coach I got up, came to practice, went home and played Playstation until afternoon.

Dunn, what did you eat and drink yesterday. Water, Gatorade, had a banana with a sandwich at lunch. Ate a snickers on the way to practice. We did chicken and rice last night with water and sweet tea.

You? Coach I had a burger from McDonald's. Drank cokes all day. For dinner we ordered pizza, why.

No reason.

From 12 I had 2 jobs until I was 15 when I had 3. Every day after school I put up freight and UPS shipments in a local warehouse, where I also swept and carried out trash. In the Summer we cranked the mill at 6:00 AM and shut down at 3:00PM with an hour for lunch at 11:00 AM. Then I put up freight and UPS and swept and took out trash. Then at 6:00 PM I cut, or lined off, or moved the posts on, or exterminated for mole crickets, or fertilized 3 grass tennis courts at the local country club and kept the putting green.

I made 17.50 a day at the sawmill. I got 2 bucks an hour at the warehouse. But I made 20 dollars a court at the Country Club no matter what was done and another 20 for the putting green and they provided the mowers and gas, pesticide and fertilizer. I made 3 times as much at the Country Club in an hour and a half as I did all day at the mill plus the warehouse. One was a family responsibility. The second permitted me to buy goods at cost. The third permitted my right to play tennis for free on the courts I kept. My cost was going off to train to keep grass courts and greens. The warehouse and Country Club job was year-round.

The money I made I saved as dating was cheap and gas was 27 cents a gallon and a six pack of beer was 2 bucks. I paid cash for my new wheels and cash for a mobile home which would see me through college when I sold it to my parents so my sister would have a place.

What I learned in those jobs prepared me for everything since. The first lesson every child should learn is how to work. Learn that and school is easy, respect is earned, and confidence is built. Learn it last and you are screwed. Only now some never learn it and that is why socialism is on the rise and public education only teaches our kids how to make excuses.

You and I were blessed to get a crash course in life before we had to tackle it on our own. But no testimonial will convince bull**** academics that labor is instructive and that it builds sound character because they only found importance in a book and tenure, and now the book has been replaced by a mobile device and they are twice as useless!

Experience gives us the context for applying education. Education without real experience has no context for application and will be forgotten. I have always favored internships for College Seniors and Graduate Students as application reinforces education.
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call Comcrap about a signal issue … get back to me … yeah, it’s funny how a few well placed f-bombs turn 90.4 mbps into 750+ mbps (that I’m fk’n paying a benji/mo.)

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(02-07-2022 06:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  call Comcrap about a signal issue … get back to me … yeah, it’s funny how a few well placed f-bombs turn 90.4 mbps into 750+ mbps (that I’m fk’n paying a benji/mo.)

#fkAutomated!!!

time to expound…

take a wild guess what popped on me screen after running ze speed test?!?!?!!!!

yeah, buggy … “were you satisfied with the result” … next pass no q & arse lick…

90.3 yesterday vs. 715.0 today …. I’m shocked I tell ya … just FK THESE FKBAGS…

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RE: What grinds your gears?
(01-25-2022 12:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 11:52 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I remember two a days when I got to high school on hot summer days... Guys would be dropping like flies. Coach would look at me and say why aren't you catching cramps or hurting. Told him I didn't know.

One of the guys said he's not putting out what I'm putting out. So the coach decided to play bull in the ring, and I was the bull the next day. After that we did all these other drills and he was on my tail making sure I was pushing hard. Again guys dropping like flies and I was still good.

He then said, son what did you do yesterday before and after practice. Well I got up and came here. Then I went to work where we built shade (I was old enough to have a real job, and I was working putting up awning at a high school) until 3. Then I went to the shop and unloaded the truck, and re-loaded for tomorrow. Left at 4 and got here so I could cool off, it's cooler here than at the shop. Practiced, then went home, cut grass and ran the weed eater for about 20 minutes. Showered, ate dinner, and went to bed.

He looked at the guy that said I hadn't been pushing.. You.. Coach I got up, came to practice, went home and played Playstation until afternoon.

Dunn, what did you eat and drink yesterday. Water, Gatorade, had a banana with a sandwich at lunch. Ate a snickers on the way to practice. We did chicken and rice last night with water and sweet tea.

You? Coach I had a burger from McDonald's. Drank cokes all day. For dinner we ordered pizza, why.

No reason.

From 12 I had 2 jobs until I was 15 when I had 3. Every day after school I put up freight and UPS shipments in a local warehouse, where I also swept and carried out trash. In the Summer we cranked the mill at 6:00 AM and shut down at 3:00PM with an hour for lunch at 11:00 AM. Then I put up freight and UPS and swept and took out trash. Then at 6:00 PM I cut, or lined off, or moved the posts on, or exterminated for mole crickets, or fertilized 3 grass tennis courts at the local country club and kept the putting green.

I made 17.50 a day at the sawmill. I got 2 bucks an hour at the warehouse. But I made 20 dollars a court at the Country Club no matter what was done and another 20 for the putting green and they provided the mowers and gas, pesticide and fertilizer. I made 3 times as much at the Country Club in an hour and a half as I did all day at the mill plus the warehouse. One was a family responsibility. The second permitted me to buy goods at cost. The third permitted my right to play tennis for free on the courts I kept. My cost was going off to train to keep grass courts and greens. The warehouse and Country Club job was year-round.

The money I made I saved as dating was cheap and gas was 27 cents a gallon and a six pack of beer was 2 bucks. I paid cash for my new wheels and cash for a mobile home which would see me through college when I sold it to my parents so my sister would have a place.

What I learned in those jobs prepared me for everything since. The first lesson every child should learn is how to work. Learn that and school is easy, respect is earned, and confidence is built. Learn it last and you are screwed. Only now some never learn it and that is why socialism is on the rise and public education only teaches our kids how to make excuses.

You and I were blessed to get a crash course in life before we had to tackle it on our own. But no testimonial will convince bull**** academics that labor is instructive and that it builds sound character because they only found importance in a book and tenure, and now the book has been replaced by a mobile device and they are twice as useless!

Experience gives us the context for applying education. Education without real experience has no context for application and will be forgotten. I have always favored internships for College Seniors and Graduate Students as application reinforces education.

I had a similar education through work. In addition to alll the thing’s you’ve mentioned is working alongside people who did those jobs to support their families. They were very good people, but I learned very early on this was not what I wanted to be doing when I was in my 30s and 40s, either from a physical perspective or from a wage perspective. It gave me the motivation to seek further education so that I could obtain a job that paid higher wages/salary and benefits.
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RE: What grinds your gears?
(01-25-2022 11:52 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I remember two a days when I got to high school on hot summer days... Guys would be dropping like flies. Coach would look at me and say why aren't you catching cramps or hurting. Told him I didn't know.

One of the guys said he's not putting out what I'm putting out. So the coach decided to play bull in the ring, and I was the bull the next day. After that we did all these other drills and he was on my tail making sure I was pushing hard. Again guys dropping like flies and I was still good.

He then said, son what did you do yesterday before and after practice. Well I got up and came here. Then I went to work where we built shade (I was old enough to have a real job, and I was working putting up awning at a high school) until 3. Then I went to the shop and unloaded the truck, and re-loaded for tomorrow. Left at 4 and got here so I could cool off, it's cooler here than at the shop. Practiced, then went home, cut grass and ran the weed eater for about 20 minutes. Showered, ate dinner, and went to bed.

He looked at the guy that said I hadn't been pushing.. You.. Coach I got up, came to practice, went home and played Playstation until afternoon.

Dunn, what did you eat and drink yesterday. Water, Gatorade, had a banana with a sandwich at lunch. Ate a snickers on the way to practice. We did chicken and rice last night with water and sweet tea.

You? Coach I had a burger from McDonald's. Drank cokes all day. For dinner we ordered pizza, why.

No reason.

I played football, wrestled and played baseball thru high school. Two a days was brutal, especially because I had an old school coach who believed drinking too much water and taking your helmet off would “soften you up” (the science has changed on that).

I am still Facebook friends with my high school FB coach (he is now in his 70s). The funny thing is the old guy has gotten soft in his twilight years. One of the things Coach used to harp on was scorning guys who sat out practice/games due to some ailment. As he used to say “amen, there is a big difference between playing when you hurt and being injured”. A couple years ago when that one gymnast sat out at the Olympics due to her complaints of her mental health he was on her side. He would have punished me severely and called me names you get fired for today back in the day if I told him I could not play a game due to mental health/anxiety issues.
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RE: What grinds your gears?
(02-08-2022 08:42 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 11:52 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I remember two a days when I got to high school on hot summer days... Guys would be dropping like flies. Coach would look at me and say why aren't you catching cramps or hurting. Told him I didn't know.

One of the guys said he's not putting out what I'm putting out. So the coach decided to play bull in the ring, and I was the bull the next day. After that we did all these other drills and he was on my tail making sure I was pushing hard. Again guys dropping like flies and I was still good.

He then said, son what did you do yesterday before and after practice. Well I got up and came here. Then I went to work where we built shade (I was old enough to have a real job, and I was working putting up awning at a high school) until 3. Then I went to the shop and unloaded the truck, and re-loaded for tomorrow. Left at 4 and got here so I could cool off, it's cooler here than at the shop. Practiced, then went home, cut grass and ran the weed eater for about 20 minutes. Showered, ate dinner, and went to bed.

He looked at the guy that said I hadn't been pushing.. You.. Coach I got up, came to practice, went home and played Playstation until afternoon.

Dunn, what did you eat and drink yesterday. Water, Gatorade, had a banana with a sandwich at lunch. Ate a snickers on the way to practice. We did chicken and rice last night with water and sweet tea.

You? Coach I had a burger from McDonald's. Drank cokes all day. For dinner we ordered pizza, why.

No reason.

I played football, wrestled and played baseball thru high school. Two a days was brutal, especially because I had an old school coach who believed drinking too much water and taking your helmet off would “soften you up” (the science has changed on that).

I am still Facebook friends with my high school FB coach (he is now in his 70s). The funny thing is the old guy has gotten soft in his twilight years. One of the things Coach used to harp on was scorning guys who sat out practice/games due to some ailment. As he used to say “amen, there is a big difference between playing when you hurt and being injured”. A couple years ago when that one gymnast sat out at the Olympics due to her complaints of her mental health he was on her side. He would have punished me severely and called me names you get fired for today back in the day if I told him I could not play a game due to mental health/anxiety issues.

When in High School we had a football game in a rain storm and by half time the temperature was low 20's. The puddles on the field turned to ice and our jerseys were miserable. On offense I was right tackle and on defense the nose guard. The mayor's son was left tackle and he had to block a guy who was 6'3" and maybe 300 lbs. He was slow but brutal. That was the night I learned that tears, which normally brought jeers only brought me a position change on offense when the mayor's son went crying to daddy on the sidelines about the beating the 6'3" Defensive Tackle was laying on him. Politics influenced football when the mayor called the coach over. I played Offensive Left Tackle the rest of that miserable night and I took a beating but that slow SOB never made a tackle because while I couldn't put him down he couldn't get me out of the way and the crab block was my friend all night, though the damned ground was miserable. The position change did help us, but I lost all respect for the coach!

Yes we were denied water, couldn't remove the helmet, had 2 a days in August in 100 degree heat, and were given dextrose and salt tablets as our only "relief". I was lucky I didn't get heat stroke. But all of us who endured it did build a team bond, in spite of the idiocy of it all.

That bond held on that miserable night and we won and learned a great lesson. We had each other in spite of miserable conditions, a sorry coach, politics, and frozen jerseys. We also learned afterwards just how slowly you must heat up the showers when your butt and balls are just about frozen blue. But it was my longest and most relieving post game shower ever. And it made the 3 hour ride on a school bus home bearable.
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RE: What grinds your gears?
(02-21-2022 08:27 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-08-2022 08:42 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 11:52 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I remember two a days when I got to high school on hot summer days... Guys would be dropping like flies. Coach would look at me and say why aren't you catching cramps or hurting. Told him I didn't know.
One of the guys said he's not putting out what I'm putting out. So the coach decided to play bull in the ring, and I was the bull the next day. After that we did all these other drills and he was on my tail making sure I was pushing hard. Again guys dropping like flies and I was still good.
He then said, son what did you do yesterday before and after practice. Well I got up and came here. Then I went to work where we built shade (I was old enough to have a real job, and I was working putting up awning at a high school) until 3. Then I went to the shop and unloaded the truck, and re-loaded for tomorrow. Left at 4 and got here so I could cool off, it's cooler here than at the shop. Practiced, then went home, cut grass and ran the weed eater for about 20 minutes. Showered, ate dinner, and went to bed.
He looked at the guy that said I hadn't been pushing.. You.. Coach I got up, came to practice, went home and played Playstation until afternoon.
Dunn, what did you eat and drink yesterday. Water, Gatorade, had a banana with a sandwich at lunch. Ate a snickers on the way to practice. We did chicken and rice last night with water and sweet tea.
You? Coach I had a burger from McDonald's. Drank cokes all day. For dinner we ordered pizza, why.
No reason.
I played football, wrestled and played baseball thru high school. Two a days was brutal, especially because I had an old school coach who believed drinking too much water and taking your helmet off would “soften you up” (the science has changed on that).
I am still Facebook friends with my high school FB coach (he is now in his 70s). The funny thing is the old guy has gotten soft in his twilight years. One of the things Coach used to harp on was scorning guys who sat out practice/games due to some ailment. As he used to say “amen, there is a big difference between playing when you hurt and being injured”. A couple years ago when that one gymnast sat out at the Olympics due to her complaints of her mental health he was on her side. He would have punished me severely and called me names you get fired for today back in the day if I told him I could not play a game due to mental health/anxiety issues.
When in High School we had a football game in a rain storm and by half time the temperature was low 20's. The puddles on the field turned to ice and our jerseys were miserable. On offense I was right tackle and on defense the nose guard. The mayor's son was left tackle and he had to block a guy who was 6'3" and maybe 300 lbs. He was slow but brutal. That was the night I learned that tears, which normally brought jeers only brought me a position change on offense when the mayor's son went crying to daddy on the sidelines about the beating the 6'3" Defensive Tackle was laying on him. Politics influenced football when the mayor called the coach over. I played Offensive Left Tackle the rest of that miserable night and I took a beating but that slow SOB never made a tackle because while I couldn't put him down he couldn't get me out of the way and the crab block was my friend all night, though the damned ground was miserable. The position change did help us, but I lost all respect for the coach!
Yes we were denied water, couldn't remove the helmet, had 2 a days in August in 100 degree heat, and were given dextrose and salt tablets as our only "relief". I was lucky I didn't get heat stroke. But all of us who endured it did build a team bond, in spite of the idiocy of it all.
That bond held on that miserable night and we won and learned a great lesson. We had each other in spite of miserable conditions, a sorry coach, politics, and frozen jerseys. We also learned afterwards just how slowly you must heat up the showers when your butt and balls are just about frozen blue. But it was my longest and most relieving post game shower ever. And it made the 3 hour ride on a school bus home bearable.

This brings back lots of memories. My first HS coach had been very successful at other places but was getting old and losing it. My second HS coach had played on Bryant's first national championship team at Alabama and we were really Baby Bama, did everything the way they did. We beat each other up in spring training, ran our butts off in two-a-days, and then when the season started we tapered way off. By mid-season we would be down to one day in pads, three days in sweats, sometimes all four days in sweats. Over 4 years we went from 3-6-1 to 8-2, and the 2 losses in the last year were both by field goals to the eventual state champion in our class (knocked us out of contention, since we were in the same district), and the #3 team in the state 2 levels up from us. He went back to Bama as an assistant, and moved into administration there when Bryant retired. The assistant to the second coach had also played for Bryant, and he and I were probably the closest. He married a girl who had recently graduated from our HS, and she ended up becoming the business manager for the country music group Alabama, so he retired from coaching to hunting and fishing. All three of those coaches have now passed, but I still stay in touch with the wives of the last two.

We never played a game in freezing rain, but we did have this one district opponent whose stadium sat in a low spot in a bend in a river, and it would get so foggy that you could barely see. We once sent in a sub, and he came back to the sideline, "Coach, I went to the wrong huddle. I can't find ours."
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