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RE: How important is defending the three?
(01-18-2018 06:54 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Elmore has a goal to get paid to play ball after college. He's going to redshirt to help reach that goal.

Is this insider info or opinion? It reads like it could be either, just curious?
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(01-18-2018 09:32 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 06:54 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Elmore has a goal to get paid to play ball after college. He's going to redshirt to help reach that goal.

Is this insider info or opinion? It reads like it could be either, just curious?

Wait and see....
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RE: How important is defending the three?
Watched Monday's with McGrath on Facebook today. Apparently Elmore had such a good pre-season Coach said he was thinking he would be a starter. So I guess he had a great summer. He also talked about how he can shoot from anywhere. He did say he will be out this season. Give it a listen. It is on UNCW Athletics Facebook page.
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RE: How important is defending the three?
(01-22-2018 10:33 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  Watched Monday's with McGrath on Facebook today. Apparently Elmore had such a good pre-season Coach said he was thinking he would be a starter. So I guess he had a great summer. He also talked about how he can shoot from anywhere. He did say he will be out this season. Give it a listen. It is on UNCW Athletics Facebook page.

With Cacok, Elmore, and Cylla our frontcourt will be much more versatile next year.
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RE: How important is defending the three?
(01-23-2018 08:53 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(01-22-2018 10:33 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  Watched Monday's with McGrath on Facebook today. Apparently Elmore had such a good pre-season Coach said he was thinking he would be a starter. So I guess he had a great summer. He also talked about how he can shoot from anywhere. He did say he will be out this season. Give it a listen. It is on UNCW Athletics Facebook page.

With Cacok, Elmore, and Cylla our frontcourt will be much more versatile next year.

I have seen some footage of Cylla from High School and he is definitely very athletic and can shoot. During his time at FAU he averaged 8.5pts and 3.4reb. http://www.fausports.com/sports/m-baskbl...79525.html
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RE: How important is defending the three?
(01-23-2018 09:05 AM)surfsalot Wrote:  
(01-23-2018 08:53 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(01-22-2018 10:33 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  Watched Monday's with McGrath on Facebook today. Apparently Elmore had such a good pre-season Coach said he was thinking he would be a starter. So I guess he had a great summer. He also talked about how he can shoot from anywhere. He did say he will be out this season. Give it a listen. It is on UNCW Athletics Facebook page.

With Cacok, Elmore, and Cylla our frontcourt will be much more versatile next year.

I have seen some footage of Cylla from High School and he is definitely very athletic and can shoot. During his time at FAU he averaged 8.5pts and 3.4reb. http://www.fausports.com/sports/m-baskbl...79525.html

Started 26 of 26 games as a Sophomore in Conference USA which I'd say the level competition is slightly better than the Colonial. Wonder what his reasoning for transferring is... I know he's mentioned in interviews that he grew up idolizing Jackie Manuel being from the same hometown as him, which is cool. I see him being a major contributor next year. Good find for the staff.
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RE: How important is defending the three?
(01-23-2018 09:29 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Started 26 of 26 games as a Sophomore in Conference USA which I'd say the level competition is slightly better than the Colonial. Wonder what his reasoning for transferring is... I know he's mentioned in interviews that he grew up idolizing Jackie Manuel being from the same hometown as him, which is cool. I see him being a major contributor next year. Good find for the staff.

Evidently the team was terrible, and over the course of his 2nd season, his minutes started getting reduced over the course of the year for some reason.

His freshman numbers look closer to the type of player we'll be getting, with 2 years in between to grow more as a player, mentally and physically. He operated like a Stretch 4, shooting 44-128 (.344) from three while still contributing in other areas.

Imagine how we'll look next year if Cylla and/or Elmore can stretch the floor while playing alongside Cacok? Or even having Cylla and Elmore on the floor at the same time and creating mismatches?

Tantalizing.
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(01-23-2018 10:25 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(01-23-2018 09:29 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Started 26 of 26 games as a Sophomore in Conference USA which I'd say the level competition is slightly better than the Colonial. Wonder what his reasoning for transferring is... I know he's mentioned in interviews that he grew up idolizing Jackie Manuel being from the same hometown as him, which is cool. I see him being a major contributor next year. Good find for the staff.

Evidently the team was terrible, and over the course of his 2nd season, his minutes started getting reduced over the course of the year for some reason.

His freshman numbers look closer to the type of player we'll be getting, with 2 years in between to grow more as a player, mentally and physically. He operated like a Stretch 4, shooting 44-128 (.344) from three while still contributing in other areas.

Imagine how we'll look next year if Cylla and/or Elmore can stretch the floor while playing alongside Cacok? Or even having Cylla and Elmore on the floor at the same time and creating mismatches?

Tantalizing.

It is definitely intriguing. Going into next year it looks like the biggest question mark will be the starting PG.
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RE: How important is defending the three?
PG shouldn't be an issue as long as Brown and that freshman that has skills are there. You could even see some of Gary there, but my guess is that they would bring in at least another combo.
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RE: How important is defending the three?
(01-23-2018 07:39 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  It is definitely intriguing. Going into next year it looks like the biggest question mark will be the starting PG.

(01-23-2018 07:50 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  PG shouldn't be an issue as long as Brown and that freshman that has skills are there. You could even see some of Gary there, but my guess is that they would bring in at least another combo.


Agreed. Our hopes will rest with Toews. Sink or swim with the freshman.
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We'll see. There could be a transfer out there who could play immediately. Right now, I actually feel pretty good about Brown stepping into that role with the incoming freshman playing backup.
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(01-24-2018 06:52 AM)82hawk Wrote:  We'll see. There could be a transfer out there who could play immediately. Right now, I actually feel pretty good about Brown stepping into that role with the incoming freshman playing backup.

After 1 decent game? I'm all for giving him more of a shot based on that game, but to anoint him as the starter next year after 1 good game that's a stretch.
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RE: How important is defending the three?
(01-24-2018 08:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-24-2018 06:52 AM)82hawk Wrote:  We'll see. There could be a transfer out there who could play immediately. Right now, I actually feel pretty good about Brown stepping into that role with the incoming freshman playing backup.

After 1 decent game? I'm all for giving him more of a shot based on that game, but to anoint him as the starter next year after 1 good game that's a stretch.

Yes, after 1 decent game. It's also the first game he's been given enough minutes to make any kind of judgement. And, he did it against a team that had players superior in size at every position. Let's not forget he's not just a freshman. He's had success on the court above HS which is why he's on our bench. What i'm saying is I am more comfortable with him than any player we have now. And unless the freshman PG recruit knocks it out of the park, he looked in control and showed he could handle the ball in a pressure situation without turning it over and made good decisions. I've already stated a transfer may come in and make a splash, but if not, he can handle the job. I'm also going off statements about his performance in practice. He definitely has the skills.
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(01-24-2018 08:25 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(01-24-2018 08:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-24-2018 06:52 AM)82hawk Wrote:  We'll see. There could be a transfer out there who could play immediately. Right now, I actually feel pretty good about Brown stepping into that role with the incoming freshman playing backup.

After 1 decent game? I'm all for giving him more of a shot based on that game, but to anoint him as the starter next year after 1 good game that's a stretch.

Yes, after 1 decent game. It's also the first game he's been given enough minutes to make any kind of judgement. And, he did it against a team that had players superior in size at every position. Let's not forget he's not just a freshman. He's had success on the court above HS which is why he's on our bench. What i'm saying is I am more comfortable with him than any player we have now. And unless the freshman PG recruit knocks it out of the park, he looked in control and showed he could handle the ball in a pressure situation without turning it over and made good decisions. I've already stated a transfer may come in and make a splash, but if not, he can handle the job. I'm also going off statements about his performance in practice. He definitely has the skills.

You have to also think that a full off-season already knowing the offense that McGrath runs will benefit Brown and Gary. Both were late additions and didn't get to campus until summer school. That will give them the upper-hand over Toews in the beginning and if the incoming Freshman is still the best option as a starter, we would be getting quite a player.
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RE: How important is defending the three?
It is very important for all Seahawks opponents to defend the three or there could be a three-peat in about 6 weeks.

For anyone paying attention in the league knows UNCW is now a threat to win in Charleston. You cannot win at Elon, take Northeastern to OT and beat Towson and not be a threat. I still think Charleston is a clear favorite, but you guys are in the next group of contenders.
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(01-24-2018 08:39 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  It is very important for all Seahawks opponents to defend the three or there could be a three-peat in about 6 weeks.

For anyone paying attention in the league knows UNCW is now a threat to win in Charleston. You cannot win at Elon, take Northeastern to OT and beat Towson and not be a threat. I still think Charleston is a clear favorite, but you guys are in the next group of contenders.

As fans, we're going to have to see not just progression, but a string of wins before we are firm believers. Wins over JMU and William and Mary at home this week would make me a believer. If we beat JMU and lose to the Tribe, i'd still have reservations.
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(01-24-2018 08:25 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(01-24-2018 08:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-24-2018 06:52 AM)82hawk Wrote:  We'll see. There could be a transfer out there who could play immediately. Right now, I actually feel pretty good about Brown stepping into that role with the incoming freshman playing backup.

After 1 decent game? I'm all for giving him more of a shot based on that game, but to anoint him as the starter next year after 1 good game that's a stretch.

Yes, after 1 decent game. It's also the first game he's been given enough minutes to make any kind of judgement. And, he did it against a team that had players superior in size at every position. Let's not forget he's not just a freshman. He's had success on the court above HS which is why he's on our bench. What i'm saying is I am more comfortable with him than any player we have now. And unless the freshman PG recruit knocks it out of the park, he looked in control and showed he could handle the ball in a pressure situation without turning it over and made good decisions. I've already stated a transfer may come in and make a splash, but if not, he can handle the job. I'm also going off statements about his performance in practice. He definitely has the skills.
It's fair, and i think he surely has that potential. But i personally need to see more.
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(01-24-2018 08:39 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  It is very important for all Seahawks opponents to defend the three or there could be a three-peat in about 6 weeks.

For anyone paying attention in the league knows UNCW is now a threat to win in Charleston. You cannot win at Elon, take Northeastern to OT and beat Towson and not be a threat. I still think Charleston is a clear favorite, but you guys are in the next group of contenders.

I agree with this. Below is how I see it at this point. Obviously, it could change. Note that this is not in any particular order.

True Contenders
Charleston
Towson
William & Mary
Northeastern
Hofstra

Outside Contenders
Elon
UNCW
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