Countdown To Kickoff:
Season Tickets

Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
WesternBlazer Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 17,605
Joined: Jan 2008
Reputation: 77
I Root For: UAB
Location:
Post: #1
Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
Clay-Chalkville discontinues playing Hewitt-Trussville in all sports, effective immediately
http://www.trussvilletribune.com/2018/01...mediately/
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2018 05:26 PM by WesternBlazer.)
01-11-2018 05:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply

the_blazerman Offline
Revert to group default
*

Posts: 28,393
Joined: Nov 2004
Reputation: 84
I Root For: UAB
Location:
Post: #2
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
As they should. Trussville got tired of Clay Chalkville whipping them in football.

No need in Trussville benefiting by playing other sports against Clay.
01-11-2018 06:19 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BlazinBham Offline
Bench Warmer
*

Posts: 195
Joined: Nov 2017
Reputation: 0
I Root For: UAB
Location:
Post: #3
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
Would it have anything to do with Hewitt-Trussville getting a group of big time transfers, after all of Clays playmakers moved on to college?
01-11-2018 06:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mixduptransistor Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,360
Joined: Dec 2006
Reputation: 67
I Root For: UAB
Location: Atlanta
Post: #4
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
If I've learned anything in life it's that the richer and bigger a high school gets, the less the adults within the system act like adults
01-11-2018 08:00 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply

TPBlaze84 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,188
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 25
I Root For: UAB
Location:
Post: #5
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
Some background that might explain this decision:

-In 2016, Hewitt Coach Josh Floyd made the decision to stop playing Clay in football, a rivalry that had been played nearly every year since Clay opened. Some perfunctory reasons were given, but ultimately it came down to that Floyd was tired of having his rear end whupped every year by a school that was smaller and less moneyed. Those characteristics were specifically a problem because they conflicted with the new, "elite" image he was trying to cultivate around the program (complete with an expensive new stadium).

-Following ending the rivalry, Floyd proceeded to assemble the easiest schedule he could find (along with the AHSAA happening to move them to an easier region in Huntsville) and proceeded to bring in "class" after class of recruits from other high schools every year. Hewitt has won a lot of regular season games with this approach, but has been smacked every year in the playoffs.

-This approach has generated a lot of acrimony in the Birmingham area, mostly because "friends of the program" for Hewitt have been in the ear of every decent high school prospect from Clay, CenterPoint, Mountain Brook, Pleasant Grove, Hoover, you name it, trying to get them to transfer to Trussville. Trussville had almost ten kids transfer in for football last season.

Thus, people are tired of it. Clay is not the only school who has caught Hewitt doing this and is fed up. Clay's principal said something on twitter a few weeks ago that was a thinly veiled shot at Hewitt and what they have been doing. So whatever reasons Clay may give for this move, I believe its solely to send a message that the cheating will no longer be tolerated.

I think its great and that other schools should follow suit. The AHSAA is useless in fighting this kind of stuff, so its up to the schools to self-police.
01-11-2018 09:28 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
the_blazerman Offline
Revert to group default
*

Posts: 28,393
Joined: Nov 2004
Reputation: 84
I Root For: UAB
Location:
Post: #6
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
Mountain Brook has been stacking in hoops for quite a while.

There are some others in the area that also tend to recruit recruits for their school.
01-11-2018 09:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TPBlaze84 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,188
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 25
I Root For: UAB
Location:
Post: #7
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
(01-11-2018 09:44 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Mountain Brook has been stacking in hoops for quite a while.

There are some others in the area that also tend to recruit recruits for their school.

Yeah, Mountain Brook got a taste of their own medicine the last two years when Hewitt plucked two starting quarterbacks from them for two straight years in a row.
01-11-2018 09:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply

mixduptransistor Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,360
Joined: Dec 2006
Reputation: 67
I Root For: UAB
Location: Atlanta
Post: #8
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
The fact that high schools are recruiting athletes is kind of dumb. No, it's really dumb.

We are totally lost as a people at this point
01-11-2018 09:49 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
bladhmadh Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,793
Joined: May 2011
Reputation: 92
I Root For: UAB
Location:
Post: #9
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
(01-11-2018 09:49 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The fact that high schools are recruiting athletes is kind of dumb. No, it's really dumb.

We are totally lost as a people at this point

this is not new. it was going on when I was in high school and that was a long time ago. like decades ago.
01-11-2018 10:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ATTALLABLAZE Offline
Administrator
*

Posts: 52,220
Joined: Jan 2003
Reputation: 353
I Root For: UAB Blazers
Location: Attalla, Birmingham

The Parliament AwardsCrappiesDonatorsBlazerTalk AwardBlazerTalk AwardBlazerTalk AwardBlazerTalk AwardBlazerTalk AwardCrappies
Post: #10
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
As a HT alum and former HT football player I support Clay's decision. Oh and Coach Woods was a walking piece of fecal matter.
01-12-2018 11:04 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply

BatesUAB Offline
Doombringer, Esq.
*

Posts: 3,238
Joined: Oct 2004
Reputation: 24
I Root For: Hard Liquor
Location: At the bar
Post: #11
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
Look, it happens. I remember several years ago there was a guy who was in the Air Force who had a couple of sons who were studs. He was stationed at Maxwell, but chose to live in Hoover so his sons could play ball there. There was also a very successful coach who did the same type thing at one of the large schools in the northern suburbs of Montgomery. He was so successful he went on to be a head coach at a D-I college school...
01-12-2018 12:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BAMANBLAZERFAN Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 15,934
Joined: Oct 2005
Reputation: 55
I Root For: UAB & Bama
Location: Cropwell, AL

BlazerTalk Award
Post: #12
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
Several years ago, Mailon Kent, Sr (former AU QB) wanted his son (M.K. Jr) to play on a state championship BB contending team. He brought in two players from Jefferson Christian Academy by providing apartment accommodations for their families in Mountain Brook (he owned the units) so their sons could play for the school. One of the two later signed with MS State. M.K., Jr went on to AU but not as an athlete.
(This post was last modified: 01-12-2018 04:42 PM by BAMANBLAZERFAN.)
01-12-2018 04:39 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
the_blazerman Offline
Revert to group default
*

Posts: 28,393
Joined: Nov 2004
Reputation: 84
I Root For: UAB
Location:
Post: #13
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
Tyus Boswell was one of them. Went to Moo U.

The other at one point flirted with UAB but I don't think had the grades.
01-12-2018 06:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply

busch Offline
Bench Warmer
*

Posts: 237
Joined: Nov 2006
Reputation: 9
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #14
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
Just a guess, but I definitely think this move had more to do with making a statement about Hewitt's football recruiting than it did anything else. Word is that Hewitt has several new additions, including the Florence running back that gained nearly 400 yards against them in the regular season finale.
(This post was last modified: 01-12-2018 06:16 PM by busch.)
01-12-2018 06:15 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BAMANBLAZERFAN Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 15,934
Joined: Oct 2005
Reputation: 55
I Root For: UAB & Bama
Location: Cropwell, AL

BlazerTalk Award
Post: #15
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
The point of my observation was that wealthy neighborhoods / school districts can use that wealth to recruit the better players who might otherwise play for less endowed schools. It works the same way in college level sports in that wealthy programs can provide greater creature comforts than their "poor relations".
01-12-2018 09:00 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
58-56 Offline
Blazer Revolutionary
*

Posts: 11,643
Joined: Mar 2006
Reputation: 499
I Root For: Fire Ray Watts
Location: CathedraloftheDragon

BlazerTalk Award
Post: #16
RE: Wow...So is P5/G5 conflict trickling down to High Schools? Shameful!!!
(01-12-2018 04:39 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Several years ago, Mailon Kent, Sr (former AU QB) wanted his son (M.K. Jr) to play on a state championship BB contending team. He brought in two players from Jefferson Christian Academy by providing apartment accommodations for their families in Mountain Brook (he owned the units) so their sons could play for the school. One of the two later signed with MS State. M.K., Jr went on to AU but not as an athlete.

My father knew, and had a great dislike for, the guy who'd recruited them to JCA in the first place. Dude was livid to have them "stolen" from him.

Was trying to recall the JCA recruiter's name and hit on this old thread. Seems some things never change (in this case, it was Clay-Chalkville doing the recruiting):

http://csnbbs.com/thread-525583.html
01-12-2018 09:11 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2018 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2018 MyBB Group.