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RE: Alabama's comeback win was one for the ages, but all is not well with college FB
This FBNC game reminded me of the Russian Chess Champion who when asked if he had ever played a perfect game replied that there is no such thing as a perfect game. Chess games are won by the player (in this case-team) who makes the next to the last mistake.
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Alabama's comeback win was one for the ages, but all is not well with college FB
Amazing how people keep glossing over UCF's SOS ranked in the 70s.

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(01-09-2018 06:05 PM)panama Wrote:  Amazing how people keep glossing over UCF's SOS ranked in the 70s.

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SOS is bull****.
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RE: Alabama's comeback win was one for the ages, but all is not well with college FB
UCF can't control their total SOS. As far as I could tell they beat a team that beat both Georgia & Alabama.

Head to head competition of same opponents. Weird to take that into consideration.
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(01-09-2018 06:05 PM)panama Wrote:  Amazing how people keep glossing over UCF's SOS ranked in the 70s.

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You mean 12th, right ?

http://warrennolan.com/football/2017/sos
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Sos is so damn subjective. There are so many different ratings.
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Which can be thrown away if the playoffs just took conference champions regardless of OOC games, SOS, etc.
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(01-09-2018 06:05 PM)panama Wrote:  Amazing how people keep glossing over UCF's SOS ranked in the 70s.

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That's the problem when you don't have a real path to the championship for anyone.

The way it works for anyone not in the P5, dare I say P3, conferences.

1. You must play in the correct conference
2. You must determine 4 or 5 years in advance which teams will be the ones to boost SOS
3. If you can schedule said teams, you then must beat the brakes off of them at their place...and you better schedule more than one.
4. If you aren't in the correct conference, you then had better run up the score on all of your conference foes.

Then, and only then, will a committee CONSIDER giving you a spot. You will never be allowed to play your way in...the committee is in place, just in case you somehow manage to meet all the above criteria.

5. When you don't make the cut, everyone will then tell you to get in another conference if you want a shot...as if teams can just decide to join a major conference.
6. Get a token New Year bowl game and beat the crap out of the team that beat the crap out of the teams they let in the "championship" tournament.
7. Kiss your coach goodbye because the system is designed to make you a farm system for the aforementioned preferred conferences.
8. Spend the next 10-20 years trying to find the next guy that can boost you up just enough to peek over the fence and watch the big boys play.

I'm just about done with it altogether. Outside of the Blazers, I can probably count on one hand the number of college football games I've watched in their entirety since 2014. And Saturday used to be a clear the calendar day where I'd watch from Gameday to the West Coast games.
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(01-09-2018 06:33 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:05 PM)panama Wrote:  Amazing how people keep glossing over UCF's SOS ranked in the 70s.

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SOS is bull****.
So I will just schedule crap teams and go 13-0 and collect a trophy.

No...they got it right last night and UCF could not have beat either team that played last night.

And please don't tell me about Auburn, because with that logic the NE Patriots should have been crowned Super Bowl champs BEFORE the Super Bowl since they beat Miami who beat Chicago.

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(01-09-2018 07:21 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  Sos is so damn subjective. There are so many different ratings.
There is no planet where playing ..
FIU
Maryland
Austin Peay

...And an AAC see schedule, subjectively makes you the equal of an SEC schedule. No matter how much we want a G5 National Champion, this is not it.

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To me its not that they should have or should not have been in the playoff. Its that they were ranked 12th and the folks went crazy when they claimed the national championship - something teams have done for decades. The establishment would have been better-served to keep quiet and say nothing instead of putting their feet in their mouths whenever they defended themselves...
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RE: Alabama's comeback win was one for the ages, but all is not well with college FB
Central Florida beat teams ranked in the final poll, three of them to end the season. Memphis twice, South Florida and Auburn. Plus they had to deal with canceled games due to hurricanes. Don't give me crap about Strength of schedule.
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(01-09-2018 06:52 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:05 PM)panama Wrote:  Amazing how people keep glossing over UCF's SOS ranked in the 70s.

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You mean 12th, right ?

http://warrennolan.com/football/2017/sos

Has anyone here read "The Missing Ring" which is a moaning whine about how unfairly Alabama was treated in 1966 after going undefeated and untied but finishing behind Notre Dame which had intentionally (politically) tied Michigan State? (Sports Illustrated cover story was titled "Tie one for the Gipper") Many Bama fans were just as put out then by that "slight" in voting as the UCF fans this week.
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(01-09-2018 11:01 PM)panama Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 07:21 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  Sos is so damn subjective. There are so many different ratings.
There is no planet where playing ..
FIU
Maryland
Austin Peay

...And an AAC see schedule, subjectively makes you the equal of an SEC schedule. No matter how much we want a G5 National Champion, this is not it.

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Most years I agree with this assessment, but this year, Alabama in particular, I take some exception to.

Alabama's best win before the playoffs was? LSU(who lost at home to Troy)? Mississippi State(whose best win was???)? If Ole Miss did what Alabama did this year, do you think they make the playoff? Because based off their resume, it was a very iffy decision.(based on watching the team play, they looked like they belonged though-my fear is the selection committee doesn't seem to play by any set standards though)

UCF had extenuating circumstances this year with a hurricane.(I know it doesn't fit the narrative to accept that this actually happened and really jacked their schedule up) UCF won every game on their schedule. They won at Maryland by a ton. They had a margin of victory over 20. I bet that game control statistic that they loved in the past would have been very useful for UCF this year. If it doesn't fit the narrative, why use it though, right? And putting them at 12 was absolutely laughable. It was done to avoid any controversy, and you are a damn fool if you believe otherwise.(you rank them 5 or 6 and you have a lot more bellyaching. At 12, it's far enough away to say that weren't even in the equation)

I don't believe they were better than Alabama or Georgia this year, but if we are gonna crown champions on paper, why play any game. How many games this year have you seen a team win that you thought had no chance? A system that excludes a team that doesn't lose a game, and beats multiple ranked opponents, doesn't make any sense to me.

At the end of the day, as long as the tide is still rolling, all is well though.
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(01-09-2018 11:27 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:52 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:05 PM)panama Wrote:  Amazing how people keep glossing over UCF's SOS ranked in the 70s.

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You mean 12th, right ?

http://warrennolan.com/football/2017/sos

Has anyone here read "The Missing Ring" which is a moaning whine about how unfairly Alabama was treated in 1966 after going undefeated and untied but finishing behind Notre Dame which had intentionally (politically) tied Michigan State? (Sports Illustrated cover story was titled "Tie one for the Gipper") Many Bama fans were just as put out then by that "slight" in voting as the UCF fans this week.

I somehow missed that one. Maybe one day when I care about Alabama football I'll read it.
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RE: Alabama's comeback win was one for the ages, but all is not well with college FB
(01-10-2018 11:55 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 11:27 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:52 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:05 PM)panama Wrote:  Amazing how people keep glossing over UCF's SOS ranked in the 70s.

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You mean 12th, right ?

http://warrennolan.com/football/2017/sos

Has anyone here read "The Missing Ring" which is a moaning whine about how unfairly Alabama was treated in 1966 after going undefeated and untied but finishing behind Notre Dame which had intentionally (politically) tied Michigan State? (Sports Illustrated cover story was titled "Tie one for the Gipper") Many Bama fans were just as put out then by that "slight" in voting as the UCF fans this week.

I somehow missed that one. Maybe one day when I care about Alabama football I'll read it.

Had you been a college football fan between 1955 and 1985, what team might you have supported? It obviously was not UAB. My entry was to illustrate that there can be similar responses when the "pinching shoe" is on one's own foot rather than someone else's. This year the "shoe is on UCF's foot".
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That’s not the case. Bama wasn’t ranked 15th and claims every national title they can. It’s not even close to a similar comparison.

In 1985 i was out of the womb for a year. My dad went to Michigan state though, so i guess it’s cool that they screwed your tide out of another title.
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(01-10-2018 02:31 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  That’s not the case. Bama wasn’t ranked 15th and claims every national title they can. It’s not even close to a similar comparison.

In 1985 i was out of the womb for a year. My dad went to Michigan state though, so i guess it’s cool that they screwed your tide out of another title.

Actually, Mich State got "screwed" as well. Coach Ara knew that Mich State's season ended with that game since under Big 10 rules it could not play in any bowl game while Notre Dame still had a game with 3-7 USC to play the next Saturday. That was why he chose to run out the clock with the tie, knowing ND had an advantage in schedule.
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