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(01-06-2018 08:19 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 03:51 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  It is going to be rare that I think a G5 team deserves to be one of the top four but this year was one of them. They flat out were better than AU and AU can play with anyone. So it is not that they just beat AU it was beyond clear they were the better team and it was not a one off upset. They beat 13 teams with losing their bye week and having to deal with the hurricane. No to mention they had to beat the same top 25 team twice. Yes overall the SEC schedule it going to be harder but beating horrible teams like Tenn or FSU is supposed to carry a ton more weight than beating slightly lower ranked horrible teams?

May happen once a decade with just four teams but UCF got screwed intentionally and the CFP went out of its way to ensure they had no shot to make it in.

How would you have felt about UCF in the final four before the win over Auburn? It really is perfect that they got to beat the one team that's beaten both of the championship game participants, but that's a pretty big data point that wasn't there at the time of the final rankings.
My main concern is they put in a team that didn't even win their division over 2 conference champions and an undefeated team. Conference champs should get first dibs or conference championship games should be removed. Alabama is probably one of the best 4 teams, but if you don't even win your division then you should NOT be in a 4 team playoff when there are 10 FBS conferences. Doesn't matter if you're "the best" on paper. You didn't win the games that mattered.

It's all too much of a beauty contest really. It's not a real playoff and that is my biggest issue with it.

A 16 team playoff would be amazing, but of course will never happen

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Alabama played NOBODY all season. SEC is trash as was seen when they played the ACC in rivalry week, an the bowl season.
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(01-06-2018 08:19 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  How would you have felt about UCF in the final four before the win over Auburn? It really is perfect that they got to beat the one team that's beaten both of the championship game participants, but that's a pretty big data point that wasn't there at the time of the final rankings.

It's a data point that's incomplete. Teams don't win or lose games based on their data sheets - it's not virtual football. As you've somewhat alluded to, when they played Auburn matters. No way the toughness of the Auburn team they played was anywhere near what Auburn gave Georgia or Alabama. By the time they played Georgia again, they had beaten the #1 team in the country twice, and were simply worn out. And then they had to play a game vs UCF that's nearly impossibly to get up for after your hopes of playing for a natty were shattered.

(01-07-2018 03:35 AM)Shrack Wrote:  Alabama is probably one of the best 4 teams, but if you don't even win your division then you should NOT be in a 4 team playoff...

A 16 team playoff would be amazing, but of course will never happen.

If Alabama is one of the best four teams, they should be in the playoffs, period, regardless of whether you think they "deserve" it. "They didn't take care of business" shouldn't be anywhere near this discussion. It's not about what they were "supposed" to do like there's some kind of rules to this. It's about what they are, plain and simple. Either they are one of the best four, or they're not. If losing a conference championship games leads you to believe they aren't one of the four best so be it, but you can't say they are one of the best four, but because they didn't do "abc" or "xyz", they don't get to be in the playoffs. That's the kind of sinister "rule making" that will get G5s left out in better playoff formats. Either you're the best or you're not, period.
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(01-07-2018 10:19 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 08:19 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  How would you have felt about UCF in the final four before the win over Auburn? It really is perfect that they got to beat the one team that's beaten both of the championship game participants, but that's a pretty big data point that wasn't there at the time of the final rankings.

It's a data point that's incomplete. Team's don't win or lose games based on their data sheets - it's not virtual football. As you've somewhat alluded to, when they played Auburn matters. No way the toughness of the Auburn team they played was anywhere near what Auburn gave Georgia or Alabama. By the time they played Georgia again, they had beaten the #1 team in the country twice, and were simply worn out. And then they had to play a game vs UCF that's nearly impossibly to get up for after your hopes of playing for a natty were shattered.

(01-07-2018 03:35 AM)Shrack Wrote:  Alabama is probably one of the best 4 teams, but if you don't even win your division then you should NOT be in a 4 team playoff...

A 16 team playoff would be amazing, but of course will never happen.

If Alabama is one of the best four teams, they should be in the playoffs, period, regardless of whether you think they "deserve" it. "They didn't take care of business" shouldn't be anywhere near this discussion. It's not about what they were "supposed" to do like there's some kind of rules to this. It's about what they are, plain and simple. Either they are one of the best four, or they're not. If losing a conference championship games leads you to believe they aren't one of the four best so be it, but you can't say they are one of the best four, but because they didn't do "abc" or "xyz", they don't get to be in the playoffs. That's the kind of sinister "rule making" that will get G5s left out in better playoff formats. Either you're the best or you're not, period.

This is all very simple. You start the season with a definitive required path to get to the playoffs. It is the same requirement for every single member of whatever league you are talking about.

Therefore the "best" teams are the ones that are built to successfully navigate that pre-defined definitive path to that goal. Its not an eye test. Its not who has the most money. Its not who has the highest number of stars. Its not who has the most history. Its not who has the best stats. Its not what a pollster says. Its not what Condoleeza Rice thinks. The BEST teams are the ones that successfully complete the path set out for them at the start of the season....in this case winning a conference championship....or being successful enough to be a wildcard.

Thats it. The "best" does not have to be a subjective concept.
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(01-07-2018 12:41 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  This is all very simple. You start the season with a definitive required path to get to the playoffs. It is the same requirement for every single member of whatever league you are talking about.

Therefore the "best" teams are the ones that are built to successfully navigate that pre-defined definitive path to that goal. Its not an eye test. Its not who has the most money. Its not who has the highest number of stars. Its not who has the most history. Its not who has the best stats. Its not what a pollster says. Its not what Condoleeza Rice thinks. The BEST teams are the ones that successfully complete the path set out for them at the start of the season....in this case winning a conference championship....or being successful enough to be a wildcard.

Thats it. The "best" does not have to be a subjective concept.

I just can't get behind that. The best team by most people's standards is who is most powerful on the football field. It's not just about paths. Just because UCF is undefeated does not mean they are better than any Top 4 team. They are the best at navigating what they were given, but not necessarily the best overall.

In 2007, Troy was two or three touchdowns better than FAU throughout the season. FAU beat them in the final game when Troy couldn't convert a 4th down on FAU's side of the field. FAU got the SBC title and Troy was left at home with no bowl. FAU at 6-6 and Troy at 8-4. I'm sorry but you'll never convince me that FAU was overall a better team than Troy, even though FAU walked away with the title. No 1 to 120 polls ranked them as such either, for good reason. Winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to the playoffs.

Everything else you said I agree with completely. It's not about, stars, history, stats, or who the coach is.
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Personally, I think the best statement for this boycott is for the G5 to turn down the G5 Money the agreed to be part of the system. That puts your money where your mouth is. 03-lmfao

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(01-07-2018 12:57 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:41 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  This is all very simple. You start the season with a definitive required path to get to the playoffs. It is the same requirement for every single member of whatever league you are talking about.

Therefore the "best" teams are the ones that are built to successfully navigate that pre-defined definitive path to that goal. Its not an eye test. Its not who has the most money. Its not who has the highest number of stars. Its not who has the most history. Its not who has the best stats. Its not what a pollster says. Its not what Condoleeza Rice thinks. The BEST teams are the ones that successfully complete the path set out for them at the start of the season....in this case winning a conference championship....or being successful enough to be a wildcard.

Thats it. The "best" does not have to be a subjective concept.

I just can't get behind that. The best team by most people's standards is who is most powerful on the football field. It's not just about paths. Just because UCF is undefeated does not mean they are better than any Top 4 team. They are the best at navigating what they were given, but not necessarily the best overall.

In 2007, Troy was two or three touchdowns better than FAU throughout the season. FAU beat them in the final game when Troy couldn't convert a 4th down on FAU's side of the field. FAU got the SBC title and Troy was left at home with no bowl. FAU at 6-6 and Troy at 8-4. I'm sorry but you'll never convince me that FAU was overall a better team than Troy, even though FAU walked away with the title. No 1 to 120 polls ranked them as such either, for good reason. Winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to the playoffs.

Everything else you said I agree with completely. It's not about, stars, history, stats, or who the coach is.

Why not? That's the way it works in every other sport. How often in baseball or basketball does the projected conference champ get left out of the playoffs because they fizzled in their CCG's and lost to a perceived lesser team? All other NCAA team sports at every level in the NCAA has a clear "path" to the NC, so why not the FBS subdivision of D1 too?
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(01-07-2018 12:57 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:41 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  This is all very simple. You start the season with a definitive required path to get to the playoffs. It is the same requirement for every single member of whatever league you are talking about.

Therefore the "best" teams are the ones that are built to successfully navigate that pre-defined definitive path to that goal. Its not an eye test. Its not who has the most money. Its not who has the highest number of stars. Its not who has the most history. Its not who has the best stats. Its not what a pollster says. Its not what Condoleeza Rice thinks. The BEST teams are the ones that successfully complete the path set out for them at the start of the season....in this case winning a conference championship....or being successful enough to be a wildcard.

Thats it. The "best" does not have to be a subjective concept.

I just can't get behind that. The best team by most people's standards is who is most powerful on the football field. It's not just about paths. Just because UCF is undefeated does not mean they are better than any Top 4 team. They are the best at navigating what they were given, but not necessarily the best overall.

In 2007, Troy was two or three touchdowns better than FAU throughout the season. FAU beat them in the final game when Troy couldn't convert a 4th down on FAU's side of the field. FAU got the SBC title and Troy was left at home with no bowl. FAU at 6-6 and Troy at 8-4. I'm sorry but you'll never convince me that FAU was overall a better team than Troy, even though FAU walked away with the title. No 1 to 120 polls ranked them as such either, for good reason. Winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to the playoffs.

Everything else you said I agree with completely. It's not about, stars, history, stats, or who the coach is.

I have the best car in the world. But it broke down right before I won races two times last year. Guess what. It wasn't the best car in the world for winning races.

You are arguing for subjective "they are best" when in sports...what you do on the playing field is what matters. That is sports.

You say winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to playoffs but that is how pretty much every real sport in the world does it and nobody complains. It is how the rest of football does it...nobody complains.

People have somehow been convinced that this one division of college football somehow needs an "eye test" when no other division needs it....the NFL doesn't need it....other sports leagues don't need it.

The "best" team is the one that successfully performs on the field when they need to perform on the field to complete a journey to the playoffs and then successfully reach and win the championship game. All based on what they do on the field. Sports. No polls, eye tests, computers, etc.
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We must have been responding at exactly the same time. 04-cheers
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All fair points. At the end of the day I just want the best teams. Eye test or not, Alabama belongs, and showed they belong. Not Ohio State, not Penn State, not Wisconsin. Alabama is simply better than the rest that got left out, "fairness" and "deservedness" be damned. Alabama will likely win it all. Are we still going to complain that Ohio State or Wisconsin didn't get in? I can sympathize with UCF fans, but they are not one of the Top 4 and should not get in just because they went undefeated.

In hindsight, I don't necessarily have a problem with championships deciding playoffs, because there's not a lot of other data. I just think from a purely philosophical viewpoint it seems flawed. Alabama is just better than the rest. They play a 12 game season and lost one game, a rivalry game, vs a red hot Auburn team. All the other games didn't matter? That's not how it works when judging who is the best team in a college football season. You guys are confusing fairness and deservedness, with who is actually the best.

I'd like to see an 8 team playoff, but nothing beyond that. That would solve some of the G5 complaining. It's possible in some years a lower seed is actually the best team. I get it, everyone wants a chance. I'd be curious to see how often an 8 seed, or a 16 seed, in a playoff format has won it all. You can argue principle of fairness and inclusion, and I'll argue the practical nature of whether they belong in a playoff by looking at the percentage that lower seeded teams actually win the whole thing. I'd gather it's relatively low because they get the Top 4 or 5 teams right.
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(01-07-2018 02:50 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  All fair points. At the end of the day I just want the best teams. Eye test or not, Alabama belongs, and showed they belong. Not Ohio State, not Penn State, not Wisconsin. Alabama is simply better than the rest that got left out, "fairness" and "deservedness" be damned. Alabama will likely win it all. Are we still going to complain that Ohio State or Wisconsin didn't get in? I can sympathize with UCF fans, but they are not one of the Top 4 and should not get in just because they went undefeated.

In hindsight, I don't necessarily have a problem with championships deciding playoffs, because there's not a lot of other data. I just think from a purely philosophical viewpoint it seems flawed. Alabama is just better than the rest. They play a 12 game season and lost one game, a rivalry game, vs a red hot Auburn team. All the other games didn't matter? That's not how it works when judging who is the best team in a college football season. You guys are confusing fairness and deservedness, with who is actually the best.

I'd like to see an 8 team playoff, but nothing beyond that. That would solve some of the G5 complaining. It's possible in some years a lower seed is actually the best team. I get it, everyone wants a chance. I'd be curious to see how often an 8 seed, or a 16 seed, in a playoff format has won it all. You can argue principle of fairness and inclusion, and I'll argue the practical nature of whether they belong in a playoff by looking at the percentage that lower seeded teams actually win the whole thing. I'd gather it's relatively low because they get the Top 4 or 5 teams right.

An 8-team playoff is better, but is still not a sports league and remains subjective as to who "deserves" to get in and perpetuates treating some league members as "special".

A 12-team playoff with all conference champions and two wildcards is what I would go for. Your "eye test" stuff takes place in the seeding, like all other sports. The "best" teams get bye weeks.

And you are right, lower-seeded teams from the G5 conferences will have less chance of winning. Just like a 15-seed has less chance of winning than a 1-seed does. But what it does do is start to lessen the competitive gap between the 10 conferences in FBS. The gap will always be there of course, but it will be less over time and healthier for everyone when everyone is playing for the same thing and recruiting for the same thing.
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(01-07-2018 12:57 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:41 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  This is all very simple. You start the season with a definitive required path to get to the playoffs. It is the same requirement for every single member of whatever league you are talking about.

Therefore the "best" teams are the ones that are built to successfully navigate that pre-defined definitive path to that goal. Its not an eye test. Its not who has the most money. Its not who has the highest number of stars. Its not who has the most history. Its not who has the best stats. Its not what a pollster says. Its not what Condoleeza Rice thinks. The BEST teams are the ones that successfully complete the path set out for them at the start of the season....in this case winning a conference championship....or being successful enough to be a wildcard.

Thats it. The "best" does not have to be a subjective concept.

I just can't get behind that. The best team by most people's standards is who is most powerful on the football field. It's not just about paths. Just because UCF is undefeated does not mean they are better than any Top 4 team. They are the best at navigating what they were given, but not necessarily the best overall.

In 2007, Troy was two or three touchdowns better than FAU throughout the season. FAU beat them in the final game when Troy couldn't convert a 4th down on FAU's side of the field. FAU got the SBC title and Troy was left at home with no bowl. FAU at 6-6 and Troy at 8-4. I'm sorry but you'll never convince me that FAU was overall a better team than Troy, even though FAU walked away with the title. No 1 to 120 polls ranked them as such either, for good reason. Winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to the playoffs.

Everything else you said I agree with completely. It's not about, stars, history, stats, or who the coach is.

You are actually arguing a subjective thing. Many people here have been saying they don't think Alabama is the better team. You are saying they are. Who is right? Everyone? No one?

Without something objective, then the G5 will always be screwed because of the obvious subjectiveness going against it.
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(01-07-2018 02:50 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  All fair points. At the end of the day I just want the best teams. Eye test or not, Alabama belongs, and showed they belong. Not Ohio State, not Penn State, not Wisconsin. Alabama is simply better than the rest that got left out, "fairness" and "deservedness" be damned. Alabama will likely win it all. Are we still going to complain that Ohio State or Wisconsin didn't get in? I can sympathize with UCF fans, but they are not one of the Top 4 and should not get in just because they went undefeated.

In hindsight, I don't necessarily have a problem with championships deciding playoffs, because there's not a lot of other data. I just think from a purely philosophical viewpoint it seems flawed. Alabama is just better than the rest. They play a 12 game season and lost one game, a rivalry game, vs a red hot Auburn team. All the other games didn't matter? That's not how it works when judging who is the best team in a college football season. You guys are confusing fairness and deservedness, with who is actually the best.

I'd like to see an 8 team playoff, but nothing beyond that. That would solve some of the G5 complaining. It's possible in some years a lower seed is actually the best team. I get it, everyone wants a chance. I'd be curious to see how often an 8 seed, or a 16 seed, in a playoff format has won it all. You can argue principle of fairness and inclusion, and I'll argue the practical nature of whether they belong in a playoff by looking at the percentage that lower seeded teams actually win the whole thing. I'd gather it's relatively low because they get the Top 4 or 5 teams right.

But they didn't beat anyone of value. So how do you know they are the best. You are biased for Alabama. I look at that schedule, compare it to Wisconsin and think the Badgers got screwed. I think UCF's schedule was only slightly less daunting than Alabama. We could argue this all day long. And that's the point. Without some objective facts, it doesn't matter.

Going at it from a Troy angle, your men's basketball team was crap last year, but just played better when it mattered. UTA was clearly the better team. We didn't win when it mattered. Using your logic, you should not have played in the NCAA tourney, as four to five teams were CLEARLY better than Troy. But you guys won when you were supposed to and got in. That's what we are all arguing for in FBS.

By the SEC's own measure, Alabama was not the best team in its division. Should be end of statement.
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If UCF played Alabama's schedule they'd be lucky to be 8-4.
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Man this is going to be a good game tonight! I'm excited!

The two best teams in the country, who obviously deserve it more than any other teams, fighting it out on the field. I may record it and watch it five to eleven times.

I wish I had the honor of paying to watch the game but it looks as though I'll just have to send that money directly to the NCAA with a letter stating how well I think they have done selecting the four best teams for the playoffs this year.

Booya.
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Quote:NCAA with a letter stating how well I think they have done selecting the four best teams for the playoffs this year.

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(01-07-2018 02:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:57 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:41 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  This is all very simple. You start the season with a definitive required path to get to the playoffs. It is the same requirement for every single member of whatever league you are talking about.

Therefore the "best" teams are the ones that are built to successfully navigate that pre-defined definitive path to that goal. Its not an eye test. Its not who has the most money. Its not who has the highest number of stars. Its not who has the most history. Its not who has the best stats. Its not what a pollster says. Its not what Condoleeza Rice thinks. The BEST teams are the ones that successfully complete the path set out for them at the start of the season....in this case winning a conference championship....or being successful enough to be a wildcard.

Thats it. The "best" does not have to be a subjective concept.

I just can't get behind that. The best team by most people's standards is who is most powerful on the football field. It's not just about paths. Just because UCF is undefeated does not mean they are better than any Top 4 team. They are the best at navigating what they were given, but not necessarily the best overall.

In 2007, Troy was two or three touchdowns better than FAU throughout the season. FAU beat them in the final game when Troy couldn't convert a 4th down on FAU's side of the field. FAU got the SBC title and Troy was left at home with no bowl. FAU at 6-6 and Troy at 8-4. I'm sorry but you'll never convince me that FAU was overall a better team than Troy, even though FAU walked away with the title. No 1 to 120 polls ranked them as such either, for good reason. Winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to the playoffs.

Everything else you said I agree with completely. It's not about, stars, history, stats, or who the coach is.

I have the best car in the world. But it broke down right before I won races two times last year. Guess what. It wasn't the best car in the world for winning races.

You are arguing for subjective "they are best" when in sports...what you do on the playing field is what matters. That is sports.

You say winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to playoffs but that is how pretty much every real sport in the world does it and nobody complains. It is how the rest of football does it...nobody complains.

People have somehow been convinced that this one division of college football somehow needs an "eye test" when no other division needs it....the NFL doesn't need it....other sports leagues don't need it.

The "best" team is the one that successfully performs on the field when they need to perform on the field to complete a journey to the playoffs and then successfully reach and win the championship game. All based on what they do on the field. Sports. No polls, eye tests, computers, etc.

You don't have to win your conference to get into any of the other playoffs. It helps, and in most gives you an auto berth, but not winning your conference does not automatically negate your chances of being in the playoffs in FCS, March Madness, NCAA Baseball, MLB, NFL, or any other level of NCAA football.

Winning the conference doesn't mean you are a better team than someone else. It could be as simple as they were better on one particular day, as Auburn was. Auburn had what, five losses, yet beat Bama. They were only better than Bama on one day. Is Iowa "better" than Ohio State? Or did they just play better on one day? (yes I know Iowa didn't win the conference, but that loss is what kept OSU out of the playoffs)
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RE: #BoycottCFBPlayoff
(01-07-2018 09:27 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  If UCF played Alabama's schedule they'd be lucky to be 8-4.

10-2

Bama's schedule sucked. Toughest opponent outside of Auburn was an LSU team that lost to Troy.
01-08-2018 01:44 PM
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RE: #BoycottCFBPlayoff
(01-08-2018 01:39 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 02:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:57 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:41 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  This is all very simple. You start the season with a definitive required path to get to the playoffs. It is the same requirement for every single member of whatever league you are talking about.

Therefore the "best" teams are the ones that are built to successfully navigate that pre-defined definitive path to that goal. Its not an eye test. Its not who has the most money. Its not who has the highest number of stars. Its not who has the most history. Its not who has the best stats. Its not what a pollster says. Its not what Condoleeza Rice thinks. The BEST teams are the ones that successfully complete the path set out for them at the start of the season....in this case winning a conference championship....or being successful enough to be a wildcard.

Thats it. The "best" does not have to be a subjective concept.

I just can't get behind that. The best team by most people's standards is who is most powerful on the football field. It's not just about paths. Just because UCF is undefeated does not mean they are better than any Top 4 team. They are the best at navigating what they were given, but not necessarily the best overall.

In 2007, Troy was two or three touchdowns better than FAU throughout the season. FAU beat them in the final game when Troy couldn't convert a 4th down on FAU's side of the field. FAU got the SBC title and Troy was left at home with no bowl. FAU at 6-6 and Troy at 8-4. I'm sorry but you'll never convince me that FAU was overall a better team than Troy, even though FAU walked away with the title. No 1 to 120 polls ranked them as such either, for good reason. Winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to the playoffs.

Everything else you said I agree with completely. It's not about, stars, history, stats, or who the coach is.

I have the best car in the world. But it broke down right before I won races two times last year. Guess what. It wasn't the best car in the world for winning races.

You are arguing for subjective "they are best" when in sports...what you do on the playing field is what matters. That is sports.

You say winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to playoffs but that is how pretty much every real sport in the world does it and nobody complains. It is how the rest of football does it...nobody complains.

People have somehow been convinced that this one division of college football somehow needs an "eye test" when no other division needs it....the NFL doesn't need it....other sports leagues don't need it.

The "best" team is the one that successfully performs on the field when they need to perform on the field to complete a journey to the playoffs and then successfully reach and win the championship game. All based on what they do on the field. Sports. No polls, eye tests, computers, etc.

You don't have to win your conference to get into any of the other playoffs. It helps, and in most gives you an auto berth, but not winning your conference does not automatically negate your chances of being in the playoffs in FCS, March Madness, NCAA Baseball, MLB, NFL, or any other level of NCAA football.

Winning the conference doesn't mean you are a better team than someone else. It could be as simple as they were better on one particular day, as Auburn was. Auburn had what, five losses, yet beat Bama. They were only better than Bama on one day. Is Iowa "better" than Ohio State? Or did they just play better on one day?

Bingo. Winning a conference championship is not and should not be the end all be all. To be fair though, Auburn had 2 losses when they beat Alabama, not 5. They went on to lose to Georgia and UCF for their 3rd and 4th losses.
01-08-2018 01:46 PM
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RE: #BoycottCFBPlayoff
(01-08-2018 01:24 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  
Quote:NCAA with a letter stating how well I think they have done selecting the four best teams for the playoffs this year.

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