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RE: #BoycottCFBPlayoff
Idaho should claim a National Championship.

They beat troy, who beat LSU, who beat auburn, who beat Alabama and georgia.
01-03-2018 06:32 PM
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UCF deserved a shot and proved it by beating Auburn. The Big 10 proved that their champion deserved a shot by pummeling 8 P5 blue bloods in bowl games. They we're by far the most balanced and best conference.
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(01-03-2018 06:32 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  Idaho should claim a National Championship.

They beat troy, who beat LSU, who beat auburn, who beat Alabama and georgia.

They mostly certainly did not. Not this year, or last.
01-03-2018 08:16 PM
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(01-03-2018 06:32 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  Idaho should claim a National Championship.

They beat troy, who beat LSU, who beat auburn, who beat Alabama and georgia.

How about GS>South>Troy>LSU>Auburn>UGA and Alabama

GS 2017 National Champs!
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(01-03-2018 07:03 AM)AppNation85 Wrote:  If we can’t get a conference champ an auto bid or even get in if we’re undefeated then the national championship/playoffs are rigged. 2 teams from the same conference? One of them didn’t even win their division in the conference?!

Many people are boycotting it and I’m asking you to spread the word and help it go viral. I’m not watching any rigged ESPN playoff games/faux national championships until they fix this nonsense. The G5 conferences should be raising lawsuits over this.

Are you freaking kidding ? No, I suppose coming from an ACC football state, you aren’t
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(01-03-2018 11:42 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 08:05 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  I'm sorry, but you cannot tell me that UCF was a better team than any of the teams that made the top 4. Hell, even if you swapped OSU and Alabama, it still wouldn't matter.

UCF was better than Clemson...there I did it. Sup...05-mafia UCF deserved a chance at the NC.

LMAO. USF better than Clemson? Some of you folks are definitely going off the deep end if y’all think Central Florida is better than any of those four teams selected in final involved in the semifinal championship games. I would love to see UCF in a Final Eight. But, there is no such animal.
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I don't think a G5 team will ever get in the playoff. The Selection committee will make sure of this. Even if that Houston team from a few years ago would have finished undefeated, I can almost guarantee you they would have been left at 5 or 6.

I'm not sure UCF deserves it though. Their best win this year was twice over a really flawed Memphis team. Were they capable of beating the Playoff teams...sure. But I'm not sure I would have ranked them 4. That all being said, I won't watch the final, mainly because I don't feel Alabama has any business in that game.
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(01-03-2018 06:32 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  Idaho should claim a National Championship.

They beat troy, who beat LSU, who beat auburn, who beat Alabama and georgia.

No. South Alabama beat Troy

Officially here's what I've got so far on this:

Tennessee State beat Georgia State, who beat South Alabama, who beat Troy, who beat LSU, who beat Auburn, who beat Alabama/Georgia.
01-03-2018 11:09 PM
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(01-03-2018 11:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No. South Alabama beat Troy

Officially here's what I've got so far on this:

Tennessee State beat Georgia State, who beat South Alabama, who beat Troy, who beat LSU, who beat Auburn, who beat Alabama/Georgia.

I'll add Tennessee Tech (1-10) beat Tennessee State, who beat Georgia State, who beat South Alabama, who beat Troy, who beat LSU, who beat Auburn, who beat Alabama/Georgia.
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Y'all are all trying to make fun of UCF by using the transitive property which has been proven false for football comparisons forever. However, UCF isn't using the transitive property to prove their point. They are using "like opponents." Which has been used to more accurately compare teams in college football for years.

Alabama, Georgia, and UCF all shared a like opponent in Auburn. Alabama lost and Georgia split 2 games. UCF beat Auburn. Therefore, it's a valid comparison.

The only thing that ticks me off about this whole situation is the other AAC schools claiming P6 status. It's like, if y'all were really P6, then UCF would have been in the playoff. Only reason they weren't is because they are in fact G5.
01-03-2018 11:45 PM
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(01-03-2018 11:45 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  Alabama, Georgia, and UCF all shared a like opponent in Auburn. Alabama lost and Georgia split 2 games. UCF beat Auburn. Therefore, it's a valid comparison.

It's an invalid comparison. It only makes sense if teams take the field with only their power ratings. You can't compare how Auburn played vs two #1 teams in the country, one of them in a rivalry game, and the other a conference championship game, to how they played vs a G5 program one game after losing the biggest game of the year. Their mental composure and drive to win are different because they are very different circumstances.

You can't use like opponents or the transitive property. Auburn beat the brakes off of #1 Georgia, and then got waxed by the same Georgia team a few weeks later. This is why when someone says they will likely beat a program because they beat them by 50+ last season is a ludicrous statement. Teams have tremendous ups and down, and saying UCF should be in the playoffs because they beat a team that beat both #1 and #2 doesn't quite cut it.
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The claims that UCF deserves to be in the CFB Playoff are not that good. They SHOULD have been ranked in the top 10 this season though. The 12th ranking by the CFB playoff committee was a complete lack of respect for the G5 and UCF. As many others have said, an 8 team playoff needs to happen. My personal opinion would be the P5 conference champions, the top 2 G5 conference champions (conference based on total SOS) and one wildcard. I am glad that all this ruckus is happening to raise awareness of the bias for P5 conferences with the CFB playoff committee.
01-04-2018 02:05 AM
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(01-03-2018 11:45 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  Y'all are all trying to make fun of UCF by using the transitive property which has been proven false for football comparisons forever. However, UCF isn't using the transitive property to prove their point. They are using "like opponents." Which has been used to more accurately compare teams in college football for years.

Alabama, Georgia, and UCF all shared a like opponent in Auburn. Alabama lost and Georgia split 2 games. UCF beat Auburn. Therefore, it's a valid comparison.

The only thing that ticks me off about this whole situation is the other AAC schools claiming P6 status. It's like, if y'all were really P6, then UCF would have been in the playoff. Only reason they weren't is because they are in fact G5.

"Like opponents" is just another way of saying "the transitive property".
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If Alabama can claim their early "championships" so can UCF.
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I don't get why so many here want to take up for the AAC. They're "Power 6", remember? They can fend for themselves as far as arguing for inclusion in the CFP.

And they want to claim their bowl record against the G5 is so bad because their teams "just don't care about the games" but want us to believe an Auburn team that had a CFP in their sights and then lost it in the SECCG was going to be fighting hard against their team. Screw the AAC.
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(01-04-2018 11:17 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I don't get why so many here want to take up for the AAC. They're "Power 6", remember? They can fend for themselves as far as arguing for inclusion in the CFP.

And they want to claim their bowl record against the G5 is so bad because their teams "just don't care about the games" but want us to believe an Auburn team that had a CFP in their sights and then lost it in the SECCG was going to be fighting hard against their team. Screw the AAC.

Perhaps I plan to use the same argument in a couple years for App.04-cheers
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(01-04-2018 11:17 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I don't get why so many here want to take up for the AAC. They're "Power 6", remember? They can fend for themselves as far as arguing for inclusion in the CFP.

And they want to claim their bowl record against the G5 is so bad because their teams "just don't care about the games" but want us to believe an Auburn team that had a CFP in their sights and then lost it in the SECCG was going to be fighting hard against their team. Screw the AAC.

lol. such a great point!
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(01-03-2018 07:03 AM)AppNation85 Wrote:  If we can’t get a conference champ an auto bid or even get in if we’re undefeated then the national championship/playoffs are rigged. 2 teams from the same conference? One of them didn’t even win their division in the conference?!

Many people are boycotting it and I’m asking you to spread the word and help it go viral. I’m not watching any rigged ESPN playoff games/faux national championships until they fix this nonsense. The G5 conferences should be raising lawsuits over this.

I bail on the bowl games as soon as the G5 are done or the SB has not reason for a team to win or lose. I only wish I still had my media meter so I could help drop the ratings of the CFP games. F~%@ the Prig5.
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instead of alienating the rest of G5, AAC should be working with all non-P5 conferences to change the playoff structure. Strength in numbers....as they say.
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Haven't read all the previous posts, so I'm sure I'm going to repeat some stuff.

Not planning on boycotting the championship because I want to see the two best teams in the country play for a title.

I'm glad UCF achieved what it did this year, as it can only help (along with the B1G getting left out of a playoff that ended with two SEC teams matching up) expand the playoffs to a point that G5 schools have a shot (8 teams is probably enough, though).

It's hard to feel too bad for UCF in getting left out, though. Maybe I'll feel differently if we're ever fortunate enough to be in the same situation at GSU. Could they compete, even in a four-team playoff? Probably. However, they know they're G5s in the FBS and are getting exactly what they bargained for. If you're seriously competing for a top 4 spot as a G5, you'd better beef up your OOC like crazy. If that means not scheduling FCS teams and only scheduling the top of the G5, so be it. (That goes for you, too, Boise State circa 2006-2010.)
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