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RE: Time for tie-ins in G5 Bowls to get an overhaul.
Quote:Benson said in an interview last summer that the rotation idea had been dropped so we are not rotating bowls.


That's good. I didn't much care for the idea of them either. SBC is on target to get 5 bowl games after the Bowl re-eval. I think the 5 bowls we have now are adequate. I think sending too many to bowl games is asking for a losing bowl record. Five is definitely enough to have contracts with. If more teams end with a winning record then hopefully they can have some shuffling to get our Champ to "higher tier" bowl.
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(12-28-2017 08:35 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
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(12-28-2017 06:59 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  Some of the locations of the bowl games need to be revisited as well for the SBC.

Atlanta needs to host a game especially when you consider the most recent members App State, GS, CCU in close proximity. In addition, it would also increase exposure for schools like Ga State. Please make the game in the dome as well. No fans want to spend their holiday vacation on a cold field. I love regular season games out in the elements, but during the bowl season and late December these games should be played in warm weather conditions for the traveling fans.

I disagree, Atlanta has too many distractions for a SBC bowl to be successful. Our bowl destinations are all fine but if one gets moved I think the expanded CCU stadium and Myrtle Beach would be the best spot to move it to.

I think after our next expansion to ~21k seats, our stadium and location would be perfect for a bowl host site.

However, I don't see anyone in our conference wanting to play a bowl game in a conference foe's stadium.

I know I wouldn't want to go to a bowl game played at Georgia Southern or App. Not sure why you guys would feel any different about us.

It would have to be a bowl with no SBC tie in, which would mean no benefit to the conference. It would only benefit us (CCU) as a host site for a bowl game.


Nah, it'd definitely be with a SBC tie-in. MWC sends teams to the Potato bowl and New Mexico Bowl.
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RE: Time for tie-ins in G5 Bowls to get an overhaul.
(12-28-2017 08:38 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:35 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 06:59 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  Some of the locations of the bowl games need to be revisited as well for the SBC.

Atlanta needs to host a game especially when you consider the most recent members App State, GS, CCU in close proximity. In addition, it would also increase exposure for schools like Ga State. Please make the game in the dome as well. No fans want to spend their holiday vacation on a cold field. I love regular season games out in the elements, but during the bowl season and late December these games should be played in warm weather conditions for the traveling fans.

I disagree, Atlanta has too many distractions for a SBC bowl to be successful. Our bowl destinations are all fine but if one gets moved I think the expanded CCU stadium and Myrtle Beach would be the best spot to move it to.

I think after our next expansion to ~21k seats, our stadium and location would be perfect for a bowl host site.

However, I don't see anyone in our conference wanting to play a bowl game in a conference foe's stadium.

I know I wouldn't want to go to a bowl game played at Georgia Southern or App. Not sure why you guys would feel any different about us.

It would have to be a bowl with no SBC tie in, which would mean no benefit to the conference. It would only benefit us (CCU) as a host site for a bowl game.


Nah, it'd definitely be with a SBC tie-in. MWC sends teams to the Potato bowl and New Mexico Bowl.

Would you have any interest in playing a bowl game in our stadium?

Think about how much worse it would be if you had already played a game at Coastal that year in the regular season.

Part of the fun of bowls is playing in a new atmosphere.


Only way it would be worth it is if it had a P5 tie in with like a 6 win ACC or SEC team but I don't see that happening.
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(12-28-2017 08:40 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:38 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:35 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 06:59 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  Some of the locations of the bowl games need to be revisited as well for the SBC.

Atlanta needs to host a game especially when you consider the most recent members App State, GS, CCU in close proximity. In addition, it would also increase exposure for schools like Ga State. Please make the game in the dome as well. No fans want to spend their holiday vacation on a cold field. I love regular season games out in the elements, but during the bowl season and late December these games should be played in warm weather conditions for the traveling fans.

I disagree, Atlanta has too many distractions for a SBC bowl to be successful. Our bowl destinations are all fine but if one gets moved I think the expanded CCU stadium and Myrtle Beach would be the best spot to move it to.

I think after our next expansion to ~21k seats, our stadium and location would be perfect for a bowl host site.

However, I don't see anyone in our conference wanting to play a bowl game in a conference foe's stadium.

I know I wouldn't want to go to a bowl game played at Georgia Southern or App. Not sure why you guys would feel any different about us.

It would have to be a bowl with no SBC tie in, which would mean no benefit to the conference. It would only benefit us (CCU) as a host site for a bowl game.


Nah, it'd definitely be with a SBC tie-in. MWC sends teams to the Potato bowl and New Mexico Bowl.

Would you have any interest in playing a bowl game in our stadium?

Think about how much worse it would be if you had already played a game at Coastal that year in the regular season.

Part of the fun of bowls is playing in a new atmosphere.


Only way it would be worth it is if it had a P5 tie in with like a 6 win ACC or SEC team but I don't see that happening.


Yes, I'd be interested in a bowl in CCU's stadium. The tie-in would be from the AAC East or CUSA East and maybe even get the last draw of SEC/ACC since it is in South Carolina.
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RE: Time for tie-ins in G5 Bowls to get an overhaul.
(12-28-2017 08:45 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:40 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:38 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:35 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I disagree, Atlanta has too many distractions for a SBC bowl to be successful. Our bowl destinations are all fine but if one gets moved I think the expanded CCU stadium and Myrtle Beach would be the best spot to move it to.

I think after our next expansion to ~21k seats, our stadium and location would be perfect for a bowl host site.

However, I don't see anyone in our conference wanting to play a bowl game in a conference foe's stadium.

I know I wouldn't want to go to a bowl game played at Georgia Southern or App. Not sure why you guys would feel any different about us.

It would have to be a bowl with no SBC tie in, which would mean no benefit to the conference. It would only benefit us (CCU) as a host site for a bowl game.


Nah, it'd definitely be with a SBC tie-in. MWC sends teams to the Potato bowl and New Mexico Bowl.

Would you have any interest in playing a bowl game in our stadium?

Think about how much worse it would be if you had already played a game at Coastal that year in the regular season.

Part of the fun of bowls is playing in a new atmosphere.


Only way it would be worth it is if it had a P5 tie in with like a 6 win ACC or SEC team but I don't see that happening.


Yes, I'd be interested in a bowl in CCU's stadium. The tie-in would be from the AAC East or CUSA East and maybe even get the last draw of SEC/ACC since it is in South Carolina.

Yea that's what I was saying. The only way I see an SBC team getting excited to come back to Conway for a bowl game is if they get a P5 opponent. But I think that might be a little far fetched.

But heck yea, if Coastal could play a bowl against a 6 win P5 team, I would go play in a conference opponent's stadium too.
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(12-28-2017 08:40 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:38 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:35 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 06:59 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  Some of the locations of the bowl games need to be revisited as well for the SBC.

Atlanta needs to host a game especially when you consider the most recent members App State, GS, CCU in close proximity. In addition, it would also increase exposure for schools like Ga State. Please make the game in the dome as well. No fans want to spend their holiday vacation on a cold field. I love regular season games out in the elements, but during the bowl season and late December these games should be played in warm weather conditions for the traveling fans.

I disagree, Atlanta has too many distractions for a SBC bowl to be successful. Our bowl destinations are all fine but if one gets moved I think the expanded CCU stadium and Myrtle Beach would be the best spot to move it to.

I think after our next expansion to ~21k seats, our stadium and location would be perfect for a bowl host site.

However, I don't see anyone in our conference wanting to play a bowl game in a conference foe's stadium.

I know I wouldn't want to go to a bowl game played at Georgia Southern or App. Not sure why you guys would feel any different about us.

It would have to be a bowl with no SBC tie in, which would mean no benefit to the conference. It would only benefit us (CCU) as a host site for a bowl game.


Nah, it'd definitely be with a SBC tie-in. MWC sends teams to the Potato bowl and New Mexico Bowl.

Would you have any interest in playing a bowl game in our stadium?

Think about how much worse it would be if you had already played a game at Coastal that year in the regular season.

Part of the fun of bowls is playing in a new atmosphere.


Only way it would be worth it is if it had a P5 tie in with like a 6 win ACC or SEC team but I don't see that happening.

The Dollar General Bowl is played in South Alabama's stadium, isn't it?
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If we are looking for a SC bowl, Charleston should be the site not CCU's stadium outside Myrtle Beach. The Citadel's stadium will need more seats to accomplish this, after the lead contamination scare which took thier capacity down considerably.
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(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  If we are looking for a SC bowl, Charleston should be the site not CCU's stadium outside Myrtle Beach. The Citadel's stadium will need more seats to accomplish this, after the lead contamination scare which took thier capacity down considerably.

I agree. Charleston is a better site, if the Citadel can get capacity where it would need to be.
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(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  If we are looking for a SC bowl, Charleston should be the site not CCU's stadium outside Myrtle Beach. The Citadel's stadium will need more seats to accomplish this, after the lead contamination scare which took thier capacity down considerably.


Charleston lost their opportunity when El Cid shrunk their capacity by 5-6k with no plans to replace them. CCU's stadium will be at 20k in the next year or so and is ripe for the SC Tourism industry to ask bid for a bowl there.
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(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:40 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:38 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:35 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I disagree, Atlanta has too many distractions for a SBC bowl to be successful. Our bowl destinations are all fine but if one gets moved I think the expanded CCU stadium and Myrtle Beach would be the best spot to move it to.

I think after our next expansion to ~21k seats, our stadium and location would be perfect for a bowl host site.

However, I don't see anyone in our conference wanting to play a bowl game in a conference foe's stadium.

I know I wouldn't want to go to a bowl game played at Georgia Southern or App. Not sure why you guys would feel any different about us.

It would have to be a bowl with no SBC tie in, which would mean no benefit to the conference. It would only benefit us (CCU) as a host site for a bowl game.


Nah, it'd definitely be with a SBC tie-in. MWC sends teams to the Potato bowl and New Mexico Bowl.

Would you have any interest in playing a bowl game in our stadium?

Think about how much worse it would be if you had already played a game at Coastal that year in the regular season.

Part of the fun of bowls is playing in a new atmosphere.


Only way it would be worth it is if it had a P5 tie in with like a 6 win ACC or SEC team but I don't see that happening.

The Dollar General Bowl is played in South Alabama's stadium, isn't it?

Yes it is. I guess that feels different to me because it isn't a stadium on their campus so it feels less like you're visiting a conference opponent's campus.

But maybe I'm alone in this feeling.
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(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:40 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:38 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:35 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I disagree, Atlanta has too many distractions for a SBC bowl to be successful. Our bowl destinations are all fine but if one gets moved I think the expanded CCU stadium and Myrtle Beach would be the best spot to move it to.

I think after our next expansion to ~21k seats, our stadium and location would be perfect for a bowl host site.

However, I don't see anyone in our conference wanting to play a bowl game in a conference foe's stadium.

I know I wouldn't want to go to a bowl game played at Georgia Southern or App. Not sure why you guys would feel any different about us.

It would have to be a bowl with no SBC tie in, which would mean no benefit to the conference. It would only benefit us (CCU) as a host site for a bowl game.


Nah, it'd definitely be with a SBC tie-in. MWC sends teams to the Potato bowl and New Mexico Bowl.

Would you have any interest in playing a bowl game in our stadium?

Think about how much worse it would be if you had already played a game at Coastal that year in the regular season.

Part of the fun of bowls is playing in a new atmosphere.


Only way it would be worth it is if it had a P5 tie in with like a 6 win ACC or SEC team but I don't see that happening.

The Dollar General Bowl is played in South Alabama's stadium, isn't it?


Dollars General Bowl wants nothing to do with SoBama either. By having a bowl in your home stadium you effectively have eliminated yourself for consideration from one bowl. Unless you’re selling out every regular season game.


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(12-28-2017 09:02 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:40 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:38 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:35 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  I think after our next expansion to ~21k seats, our stadium and location would be perfect for a bowl host site.

However, I don't see anyone in our conference wanting to play a bowl game in a conference foe's stadium.

I know I wouldn't want to go to a bowl game played at Georgia Southern or App. Not sure why you guys would feel any different about us.

It would have to be a bowl with no SBC tie in, which would mean no benefit to the conference. It would only benefit us (CCU) as a host site for a bowl game.


Nah, it'd definitely be with a SBC tie-in. MWC sends teams to the Potato bowl and New Mexico Bowl.

Would you have any interest in playing a bowl game in our stadium?

Think about how much worse it would be if you had already played a game at Coastal that year in the regular season.

Part of the fun of bowls is playing in a new atmosphere.


Only way it would be worth it is if it had a P5 tie in with like a 6 win ACC or SEC team but I don't see that happening.

The Dollar General Bowl is played in South Alabama's stadium, isn't it?


Dollars General Bowl wants nothing to do with SoBama either. By having a bowl in your home stadium you effectively have eliminated yourself for consideration from one bowl. Unless you’re selling out every regular season game.


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Whaaa? Tell that to UNM, Hawaii, Boise, SDSU, etc.
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(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  If we are looking for a SC bowl, Charleston should be the site not CCU's stadium outside Myrtle Beach. The Citadel's stadium will need more seats to accomplish this, after the lead contamination scare which took thier capacity down considerably.

I was initially going to disagree with you, but one thing that supports your opinion is that Coastal's stadium is still 20-25 minutes from Ocean Boulevard, whereas Citadel's stadium is on the peninsula.
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(12-28-2017 09:13 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  If we are looking for a SC bowl, Charleston should be the site not CCU's stadium outside Myrtle Beach. The Citadel's stadium will need more seats to accomplish this, after the lead contamination scare which took thier capacity down considerably.

I was initially going to disagree with you, but one thing that supports your opinion is that Coastal's stadium is still 20-25 minutes from Ocean Boulevard, whereas Citadel's stadium is on the peninsula.

El Cid has a seating problem now though.
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(12-28-2017 08:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 06:59 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  Some of the locations of the bowl games need to be revisited as well for the SBC.

Atlanta needs to host a game especially when you consider the most recent members App State, GS, CCU in close proximity. In addition, it would also increase exposure for schools like Ga State. Please make the game in the dome as well. No fans want to spend their holiday vacation on a cold field. I love regular season games out in the elements, but during the bowl season and late December these games should be played in warm weather conditions for the traveling fans.

I disagree, Atlanta has too many distractions for a SBC bowl to be successful. Our bowl destinations are all fine but if one gets moved I think the expanded CCU stadium and Myrtle Beach would be the best spot to move it to.

Same argument could be said for New Orleans
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(12-28-2017 09:14 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 09:13 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  If we are looking for a SC bowl, Charleston should be the site not CCU's stadium outside Myrtle Beach. The Citadel's stadium will need more seats to accomplish this, after the lead contamination scare which took thier capacity down considerably.

I was initially going to disagree with you, but one thing that supports your opinion is that Coastal's stadium is still 20-25 minutes from Ocean Boulevard, whereas Citadel's stadium is on the peninsula.

El Cid has a seating problem now though.

I don't know, in some ways, I think it would be better to have a packed small stadium vs. a 30,000 capacity stadium with only 8000 fans in it.
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(12-28-2017 09:17 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
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(12-28-2017 09:13 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  If we are looking for a SC bowl, Charleston should be the site not CCU's stadium outside Myrtle Beach. The Citadel's stadium will need more seats to accomplish this, after the lead contamination scare which took thier capacity down considerably.

I was initially going to disagree with you, but one thing that supports your opinion is that Coastal's stadium is still 20-25 minutes from Ocean Boulevard, whereas Citadel's stadium is on the peninsula.

El Cid has a seating problem now though.

I don't know, in some ways, I think it would be better to have a packed small stadium vs. a 30,000 capacity stadium with only 8000 fans in it.


They only can seat 11,500 in El Cid's stadium now. That's unacceptable for a bowl.
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(12-28-2017 09:17 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
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(12-28-2017 09:13 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 08:52 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  If we are looking for a SC bowl, Charleston should be the site not CCU's stadium outside Myrtle Beach. The Citadel's stadium will need more seats to accomplish this, after the lead contamination scare which took thier capacity down considerably.

I was initially going to disagree with you, but one thing that supports your opinion is that Coastal's stadium is still 20-25 minutes from Ocean Boulevard, whereas Citadel's stadium is on the peninsula.

El Cid has a seating problem now though.

I don't know, in some ways, I think it would be better to have a packed small stadium vs. a 30,000 capacity stadium with only 8000 fans in it.

Then this means you're advocating for Coastal to host. Our stadium will hold ~21k people after this year's expansion.

Based on the bowl attendance numbers coming in, we could host 2 of the 4 bowl crowds that showed up, but even those would make our stadium "packed". Our two smallest attended bowls so far were 19k and 20k.

And you know as well as I do with how well App and GS travel. If you put a bowl closer to them in Conway, SC, the attendance will reach even higher numbers.

I believe most SBC East teams would pack Coastal's stadium for a bowl IF it's a great opponent.
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What was the attendance numbers for all 4 of SBC bowl games?

At least these numbers would help us understand the criteria moving forward of any future sites
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(12-28-2017 09:21 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  What was the attendance numbers for all 4 of SBC bowl games?

At least these numbers would help us understand the criteria moving forward of any future sites

Ranges from about 19k to upper 20k's.

Based on the 4 bowls played so far, Coastal theoretically could have held two of the four crowds with our new expansion complete to 21k.
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