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2018 Must Win Non-conference
I really enjoy during bowl season how we are all pulling for one another in this battle for conference standings in the G5. So it got me thinking, with the FunBelt finishing up our bowls, what are the Must Win Non-conference games for each team next year? Looking at need for both success for team and league. Found the early schedules on http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/sun-belt...edules.php
Here are my thoughts on each team and would like to get everyone else's opinions:

App State-
09/01 - at Penn State
09/08 - at Charlotte
09/15 - Southern Miss
09/22 - Gardner-Webb

Yea, would be awesome to beat Penn State and I think App has a small chance. But let's be honest, with a new QB 1st game of the season, like UGA this year, just don't see it happening. UNCC and GW should be beat downs. (More App fans in Charlotte for that game?). That leaves one game left, at home, vs 2017 bowl team, consistent winning tradition, and CUSA foe. If App fans want to make the argument that SunBelt>CUSA, A beat down of UNCC and win vs USM is a must.

stAte-
09/01 - Southeast Missouri
09/08 - at Alabama
09/15 - at Tulsa
09/22 - UNLV

We all know about stAte's non-conference woe's and no need to get into that. Looking at early schedule, Red Wolves will be 1-1 after week 2, although I could see some arguing for 2-0 by next August. But the next two is when it gets real. Not sure which of Tulsa or UNLV is MORE important. But I'll go with Tulsa. They were 2-10 this year, but the chance to beat an AAC team on the road is big. And momentum from a win should carry over into UNLV. Thoughts?

CCU-
09/01 - at South Carolina
09/08 - UAB
09/15 - Campbell
10/20 - at UMass
I know how much y'all want it, but a South Carolina upset ain't happening. But a revenge win at home over a 2017 bowl team is very much in the realm of possibility. But watch out for those Minute Men in Amherst.

GS-
09/01 - Presbyterian
09/08 - UMass
09/15 - at Clemson
10/20 - at New Mexico State
The smart ass in me wants to bold Presbyterian and say "1st things 1st" with this years struggles haha. But we all feel that'll be a win. So the debate is Umass or NMST. Both revenge games, both may be needed to be bowl eligible in a stacked East. Which is greater??? Want to say UMass, its at home and will give ya a 2-0 start for MO. But can we really afford a loss to team we just kicked out of the conference???

GSU-
08/30 - Kennesaw State
09/08 - at NC State
09/15 - at Memphis
09/22 - Western Michigan
If I'm a betting man, I'm putting money on you guys vs Kennesaw State. But just can't see wins in Raleigh or Memphis. I'd like to listen to an argument for Memphis, but I think they are too strong. WMU on the other hand, Home game, MAC team, Flack era long gone, Panthers need to pull this 1 out.

USA-
09/01 - Louisiana Tech
09/08 - at Oklahoma State
09/22 - at Memphis
10/13 - Alabama State
What better way for Campbell to make a statement then take out those pesky Bulldogs. I know a lot of the fans on this board doesn't like LATech, so what better way to prove that the sunbelt is better then an opening week win over the Louisiana G5 poster child.

TxSt-
09/01 - at Rutgers
09/08 - Texas Southern
09/22 - at UTSA
10/27 - New Mexico State
This is a no brainer, right? I know very little about the rivalry, but from post earlier this year, kinda feel this is what TxSt fans want most. Or should it be against that team that just left???

Troy-
09/01 - Boise State
09/08 - Presbyterian
09/15 - at Nebraska
10/13 - at Liberty
I spent a while thinking about maybe bolding Nebraska because I believe that is a very winnable game. But to keep my arguments consistent, don't see Nebraska without a BSU win 1st. Battle for top of MWC vs top of Sunbelt, home revenge game, and with the talent Troy fans they say they have coming back, this has got to be a must win if the SunBelt wants to say we are on par with more than just CUSA and MAC.

LA-
09/01 - Grambling State
09/15 - at Mississippi State
09/29 - at Alabama
10/13 - New Mexico State
I thought this 1 was an easy pick. GrSt is a win, MSU & Bama are losses. Again, can't have multiple losses by SunBelt teams to a team that just left us. NMST win or loss could be difference in bowl game or not.

ULM-
09/01 - Southeastern Louisiana
09/08 - at Southern Miss
09/15 - at Texas A&M
10/06 - at Ole Miss
Just like LA, I see 1-2 in the non-bolded games. But USM is a HUGE must win for the Hawks to make the statement to the rest of us that y'all are serious contenders in the west. Plus, feel like both campuses are close enough to have multiple fan interactions, so losing to these guys can't be an option, right? Plus, need them banged up before heading to Boone ... haha

Would love to hear everyone's thoughts and discuss as we finish up the bowl season.
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We will go 4-0 OOC

That said we have a better shot at losing to Boise State than Nebraska. Boise State returns a lot next year
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RE: 2018 Must Win Non-conference
(12-26-2017 11:36 AM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  I really enjoy during bowl season how we are all pulling for one another in this battle for conference standings in the G5. So it got me thinking, with the FunBelt finishing up our bowls, what are the Must Win Non-conference games for each team next year? Looking at need for both success for team and league. Found the early schedules on http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/sun-belt...edules.php
Here are my thoughts on each team and would like to get everyone else's opinions:



GS-
09/01 - Presbyterian
09/08 - UMass
09/15 - at Clemson
10/20 - at New Mexico State
The smart ass in me wants to bold Presbyterian and say "1st things 1st" with this years struggles haha. But we all feel that'll be a win. So the debate is Umass or NMST. Both revenge games, both may be needed to be bowl eligible in a stacked East. Which is greater??? Want to say UMass, its at home and will give ya a 2-0 start for MO. But can we really afford a loss to team we just kicked out of the conference???

In Georgia Southern's case UMass and NMSU are surly must wins but unfortunately they won't help the conference in peer standings in any way since they are both independents.
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(12-26-2017 11:44 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We will go 4-0 OOC

That said we have a better shot at losing to Boise State than Nebraska. Boise State returns a lot next year

I think we'll be good next year but we'll need a lot to go right to get to 4-0. Beat Boise, and I think it gets a lot easier.
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To answer your question about 9/18, yes App will have more fans at UNCC than UNCC does. Regardless of what sale tactics the remaining 49er fans try, our demand and fan base will out weigh their hopes and aspirations to not have their stadium embarrassingly filled with black and gold. That game also becomes a must win due to those circumstances, while it will highly likely be a complete beat down.
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Boise is thinking huge season next year, they have Troy, Oki State and BYU OOC.


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stAte ‘should’ be 3-1 to start the season....with a very good showing at Bama.
If we can find that ‘early season Hansen’, and somehow find a way to keep him at the top of his game, we will only lose one game.
If the same Hansen that finished the year shows up, SEMO isn’t a sure win.
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(12-26-2017 12:50 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  To answer your question about 9/18, yes App will have more fans at UNCC than UNCC does. Regardless of what sale tactics the remaining 49er fans try, our demand and fan base will out weigh their hopes and aspirations to not have their stadium embarrassingly filled with black and gold. That game also becomes a must win due to those circumstances, while it will highly likely be a complete beat down.

I want to use my coaches pass into the game, but thinking I may need to purchase tickets to ensure a seat. I'm sure UNCC will be motivated just from the embarrassment of having a home game with the crowd against them.
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(12-26-2017 11:36 AM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  GSU-
08/30 - Kennesaw State
09/08 - at NC State
09/15 - at Memphis
09/22 - Western Michigan
If I'm a betting man, I'm putting money on you guys vs Kennesaw State. But just can't see wins in Raleigh or Memphis. I'd like to listen to an argument for Memphis, but I think they are too strong. WMU on the other hand, Home game, MAC team, Flack era long gone....

I appreciate the confidence, but it is KSU. We have 2 wins over FCS programs in 5 FBS seasons. And one decided by less than a field goal. We have momentum, and have to capitalize. We have the city another reason to come see us, but it can't be losing to an in state FCS program.
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ULM has a legit shot at USM. USM will lose 13 starters including Judge Ito Smith. But USM picks up some JUCO players. Just depends if those JUCO are situated by game 2. ULM offense wasn’t clicking and we didn’t even know if Evans was our QB when we played them.
I don’t think we will beat Ole Piss but if there was ever a shot for us to win it’s next year with players leaving, scholarship reductions Etc.....
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GS-
09/01 - Presbyterian
09/08 - UMass
09/15 - at Clemson
10/20 - at New Mexico State

Southern takes care of business at home with more energetic fan base even though it's early in the year with new offense and defense. I'd like to see how that October 20 game falls on the schedule, considering GS consistently gets selected for the horrible Wednesday evening games. I would assume Southern would not have to travel to New Mexico State after a Saturday evening game unless the SBC (powers that be) truly wants us to fail vs a former conference member.

I'm predicting 3-1. Wow more wins than we had of all of last season.
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LA definitely has the toughest OOC schedule next season. ULM, USA, & GSU also have pretty tough OOC schedules. Most others should be able to perform well given their OOC schedules. It should be a great showing by the Sun Belt next season!
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(12-26-2017 01:32 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  stAte ‘should’ be 3-1 to start the season....with a very good showing at Bama.
If we can find that ‘early season Hansen’, and somehow find a way to keep him at the top of his game, we will only lose one game.
If the same Hansen that finished the year shows up, SEMO isn’t a sure win.

Bama is going to be very good next year and is going to kill us. I'm not sure what qualifies as a "good performance" against them? Saban's not known for running up the score, so is 42-10 a good result against Bama, or not enough?

I think I'll base our performance based on how many points we put up on their starting defense. One touchdown would be a good sign.
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At this point TXST will take any OOC win. 03-shhhh
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(12-26-2017 12:34 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 11:44 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We will go 4-0 OOC

That said we have a better shot at losing to Boise State than Nebraska. Boise State returns a lot next year

I think we'll be good next year but we'll need a lot to go right to get to 4-0. Beat Boise, and I think it gets a lot easier.

Agreed, if we beat Boise State we should win the rest. With it being at home, new stadium expansion open. Possible sell out. And the fact that Brown is what 4-0 in revenge games?
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(12-26-2017 07:03 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 12:34 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 11:44 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We will go 4-0 OOC

That said we have a better shot at losing to Boise State than Nebraska. Boise State returns a lot next year

I think we'll be good next year but we'll need a lot to go right to get to 4-0. Beat Boise, and I think it gets a lot easier.

Agreed, if we beat Boise State we should win the rest. With it being at home, new stadium expansion open. Possible sell out. And the fact that Brown is what 4-0 in revenge games?

I'm not sure I'd count Nebraska as a win. Especially if Frost is able to bring in the guys he wants.
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(12-26-2017 07:11 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 07:03 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 12:34 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 11:44 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We will go 4-0 OOC

That said we have a better shot at losing to Boise State than Nebraska. Boise State returns a lot next year

I think we'll be good next year but we'll need a lot to go right to get to 4-0. Beat Boise, and I think it gets a lot easier.

Agreed, if we beat Boise State we should win the rest. With it being at home, new stadium expansion open. Possible sell out. And the fact that Brown is what 4-0 in revenge games?

I'm not sure I'd count Nebraska as a win. Especially if Frost is able to bring in the guys he wants.

It’s going to take time to build there... and didn’t stAte beat Frost in his first year at UCF in the bowl?
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(12-26-2017 07:26 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 07:11 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 07:03 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 12:34 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 11:44 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We will go 4-0 OOC

That said we have a better shot at losing to Boise State than Nebraska. Boise State returns a lot next year

I think we'll be good next year but we'll need a lot to go right to get to 4-0. Beat Boise, and I think it gets a lot easier.

Agreed, if we beat Boise State we should win the rest. With it being at home, new stadium expansion open. Possible sell out. And the fact that Brown is what 4-0 in revenge games?

I'm not sure I'd count Nebraska as a win. Especially if Frost is able to bring in the guys he wants.

It’s going to take time to build there... and didn’t stAte beat Frost in his first year at UCF in the bowl?

A UCF team that finished 6-6 and had no desire to play in that game whatsoever...yes. Nebraska played us a tougher game than you guys did honestly.
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(12-26-2017 08:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 07:26 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 07:11 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 07:03 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 12:34 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  I think we'll be good next year but we'll need a lot to go right to get to 4-0. Beat Boise, and I think it gets a lot easier.

Agreed, if we beat Boise State we should win the rest. With it being at home, new stadium expansion open. Possible sell out. And the fact that Brown is what 4-0 in revenge games?

I'm not sure I'd count Nebraska as a win. Especially if Frost is able to bring in the guys he wants.

It’s going to take time to build there... and didn’t stAte beat Frost in his first year at UCF in the bowl?

A UCF team that finished 6-6 and had no desire to play in that game whatsoever...yes. Nebraska played us a tougher game than you guys did honestly.

Yea, I'm not so sure Troy will be favored in that game either. Nebraska still has B1G talent and will be on the rise with a new coach. With the LSU win, there won't be any sneaking up on them either. I'd say its 50/50 at best even with all the unprovens.
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@South Carolina is a must win for Coastal this coming fall.

Why? Because it is.
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