The Men Who Built America: Frontiersmen
On the American History Channel.

Interesting. WKU and MTSU would like the first in the series on Daniel Boone in particular. Life was really tough back then. People today could not handle what those guys went through.

New Lost in space on Netflix is pretty darn entertaining. I like the twist on Smith and Parker Posey does pretty good with the role.

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Started watching The Ranch on Netflix last night. If you liked That 70's Show and like Sam Elliot, you should give it a shot.

(04-16-2018 07:08 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  New Lost in space on Netflix is pretty darn entertaining. I like the twist on Smith and Parker Posey does pretty good with the role.

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Danger Will Robinson!

(04-16-2018 08:42 PM)WWDog Wrote:  

(04-16-2018 07:08 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  New Lost in space on Netflix is pretty darn entertaining. I like the twist on Smith and Parker Posey does pretty good with the role.

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Danger Will Robinson!

I admit when he said it for the first time I got kind of stoked. My wife had no idea what I was talking about when I started saying it.

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(04-16-2018 07:08 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  New Lost in space on Netflix is pretty darn entertaining. I like the twist on Smith and Parker Posey does pretty good with the role.

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Will watch anything with Parker Posey

(03-28-2018 08:30 PM)WWDog Wrote:  Americans final season premier tonight.
Billions season premier was Sunday.

Amazed at how consistently good Americans has been for so long. (Minus a few story lines.)

Wrapping up Looming Towers this week on Hulu.

It's mostly an accurate account of the failure of the CIA and FBI (mostly CIA) to coordinate intel in the years leading up to 9/11. Based on the book by the same name which takes you from the seedlings in the 50's that eventually grew al-Qaeda to what it becomes by the mid 90's. The show doesn't go that far back and starts right around the time just before the U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi.

It's not for everyone. If you like the subject matter; however, you will almost assuredly binge the whole thing. Gets a little stale mid way through but is otherwise hard to turn off. Even before the finale this week it brings back the angry emotions I felt over 16 years ago and in the months following. While my anger is still directed toward the ******** who did it, the series brings to visualization a sense of frustrations and mixed emotions - for me personally - knowing that it could have been stopped.

There are three things to keep your eye on. One is it really wasn't agency vs agency. It was literally a couple of personalities within those agencies. That's probably the most interesting aspect the book written by Lawrence Wright brings to the forefront - aside from just the overall story telling of what happened and why. Those personalities were John O'Neil (played by Jeff Daniels) with the FBI who had a complicated personal life at the time and Michael Scheuer of the agency who perhaps is just crazy. Peter Sarsgaard doesn't actually play him - he's loosely playing a fictional character based on Scheuer and few others in Alec Station, but Sarsgaard plays this role in an award wining capacity. The next is the performance based on Special Agent Ali Soufan (by Tahar Rahim), which was also fantastic. In reality, Soufan was probably the only person who was capable and of clear enough mind to have stopped it. And probably would have had the CIA shared with him. In fact, in the years following Soufan made statements that he believes he would have stopped it, and he eventually quit out of frustration with the bureaucracy. That leads me to the third point and I will try to not to reveal too much. Al-Qaeda made a big mistake. The bombing of the USS Cole and the investigation that followed had enough connection to 9/11 that it should have been figured out. Again, see the previous statement regarding Soufan.

The biggest difference between the book and the series is Wright takes you into the depths of al-Qaeda and illustrates the story through the narrative of what bin Laden and his followers were thinking/doing. The series illustrates the story through the lens of the USG - namely the aforementioned characters.

So, if you like this kind of thing you will really enjoy Looming Towers. It is really well done. Hopefully, I've given you enough insight to decide. Happy watching.

(04-17-2018 09:05 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Wrapping up Looming Towers this week on Hulu.

It's a mostly an accurate account of the failure of the CIA and FBI (mostly CIA) to coordinate intel in the years leading up to 9/11. Based on the book by the same name which takes you from the seedlings in the 50's that eventually grew al-Qaeda to what it becomes by the mid 90's. The show doesn't go that far back and starts right around the time just before the U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi.

It's not for everyone. If you like the subject matter; however, you will almost assuredly binge the whole thing. Gets a little stale mid way through but is otherwise hard to turn off. Even before the finale this week it brings back the angry emotions I felt over 16 years ago and in the months following. While my anger is still directed toward the ******** who did it, the series brings to visualization a sense of frustrations and mixed emotions - for me personally - knowing that it could have been stopped.

There are three things to keep your eye on. One is it really wasn't agency vs agency. It was literally a couple of personalities within those agencies. That's probably the most interesting aspect the book written by Lawrence Wright brings to the forefront - aside from just the overall story telling of what happened and why. Those personalities were John O'Neil (played by Jeff Daniels) with the FBI who had a complicated personal life at the time and Michael Scheuer of the agency who perhaps is just crazy. Peter Sarsgaard doesn't actually play him - he's loosely playing a fictional character based on Scheuer and few others in Alec Station, but Sarsgaard plays this role in an award wining capacity. The next is the performance based on Special Agent Ali Soufan (by Tahar Rahim), which was also fantastic. In reality, Soufan was probably the only person who was capable and of clear enough mind to have stopped it. And probably would have had the CIA shared with him. In fact, in the years following Soufan made statements that he believes he would have stopped it, and he eventually quit out of frustration with the bureaucracy. That leads me to the third point and I will try to not to reveal too much. Al-Qaeda made a big mistake. The bombing of the USS Cole and the investigation that followed had enough connection to 9/11 that it should have been figured out. Again, see the previous statement regarding Soufan.

The biggest difference between the book and the series is Wright takes you into the depths of al-Qaeda and illustrates the story through the narrative of what bin Laden and his followers were thinking/doing. The series illustrates the story through the lens of the USG - namely the aforementioned characters.

So, if you like this kind of thing you will really enjoy Looming Towers. It is really well done. Hopefully, I've given you enough insight to decide. Happy watching.

Great post. I have watched most of the TV show and have to say the book is much more enjoyable if not as accessible. And how about Jeff Daniels showing his acting range here and in Godless?!
If the CIA angle is interesting I suggest Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner and Ghost Wars by Steve Coll.

(04-17-2018 09:16 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(04-17-2018 09:05 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Wrapping up Looming Towers this week on Hulu.

It's a mostly an accurate account of the failure of the CIA and FBI (mostly CIA) to coordinate intel in the years leading up to 9/11. Based on the book by the same name which takes you from the seedlings in the 50's that eventually grew al-Qaeda to what it becomes by the mid 90's. The show doesn't go that far back and starts right around the time just before the U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi.

It's not for everyone. If you like the subject matter; however, you will almost assuredly binge the whole thing. Gets a little stale mid way through but is otherwise hard to turn off. Even before the finale this week it brings back the angry emotions I felt over 16 years ago and in the months following. While my anger is still directed toward the ******** who did it, the series brings to visualization a sense of frustrations and mixed emotions - for me personally - knowing that it could have been stopped.

There are three things to keep your eye on. One is it really wasn't agency vs agency. It was literally a couple of personalities within those agencies. That's probably the most interesting aspect the book written by Lawrence Wright brings to the forefront - aside from just the overall story telling of what happened and why. Those personalities were John O'Neil (played by Jeff Daniels) with the FBI who had a complicated personal life at the time and Michael Scheuer of the agency who perhaps is just crazy. Peter Sarsgaard doesn't actually play him - he's loosely playing a fictional character based on Scheuer and few others in Alec Station, but Sarsgaard plays this role in an award wining capacity. The next is the performance based on Special Agent Ali Soufan (by Tahar Rahim), which was also fantastic. In reality, Soufan was probably the only person who was capable and of clear enough mind to have stopped it. And probably would have had the CIA shared with him. In fact, in the years following Soufan made statements that he believes he would have stopped it, and he eventually quit out of frustration with the bureaucracy. That leads me to the third point and I will try to not to reveal too much. Al-Qaeda made a big mistake. The bombing of the USS Cole and the investigation that followed had enough connection to 9/11 that it should have been figured out. Again, see the previous statement regarding Soufan.

The biggest difference between the book and the series is Wright takes you into the depths of al-Qaeda and illustrates the story through the narrative of what bin Laden and his followers were thinking/doing. The series illustrates the story through the lens of the USG - namely the aforementioned characters.

So, if you like this kind of thing you will really enjoy Looming Towers. It is really well done. Hopefully, I've given you enough insight to decide. Happy watching.

Great post. I have watched most of the TV show and have to say the book is much more enjoyable if not as accessible. And how about Jeff Daniels showing his acting range here and in Godless?!
If the CIA angle is interesting I suggest Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner and Ghost Wars by Steve Coll.

Seems to always be the case when you have a great book - it's difficult to fully replicate that experience with the inherent challenges of making it all fit in the magic box. And Daniels is definitely a long way from Dumb and Dumber.

(04-17-2018 09:59 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2018 09:16 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(04-17-2018 09:05 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Wrapping up Looming Towers this week on Hulu.

It's a mostly an accurate account of the failure of the CIA and FBI (mostly CIA) to coordinate intel in the years leading up to 9/11. Based on the book by the same name which takes you from the seedlings in the 50's that eventually grew al-Qaeda to what it becomes by the mid 90's. The show doesn't go that far back and starts right around the time just before the U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi.

It's not for everyone. If you like the subject matter; however, you will almost assuredly binge the whole thing. Gets a little stale mid way through but is otherwise hard to turn off. Even before the finale this week it brings back the angry emotions I felt over 16 years ago and in the months following. While my anger is still directed toward the ******** who did it, the series brings to visualization a sense of frustrations and mixed emotions - for me personally - knowing that it could have been stopped.

There are three things to keep your eye on. One is it really wasn't agency vs agency. It was literally a couple of personalities within those agencies. That's probably the most interesting aspect the book written by Lawrence Wright brings to the forefront - aside from just the overall story telling of what happened and why. Those personalities were John O'Neil (played by Jeff Daniels) with the FBI who had a complicated personal life at the time and Michael Scheuer of the agency who perhaps is just crazy. Peter Sarsgaard doesn't actually play him - he's loosely playing a fictional character based on Scheuer and few others in Alec Station, but Sarsgaard plays this role in an award wining capacity. The next is the performance based on Special Agent Ali Soufan (by Tahar Rahim), which was also fantastic. In reality, Soufan was probably the only person who was capable and of clear enough mind to have stopped it. And probably would have had the CIA shared with him. In fact, in the years following Soufan made statements that he believes he would have stopped it, and he eventually quit out of frustration with the bureaucracy. That leads me to the third point and I will try to not to reveal too much. Al-Qaeda made a big mistake. The bombing of the USS Cole and the investigation that followed had enough connection to 9/11 that it should have been figured out. Again, see the previous statement regarding Soufan.

The biggest difference between the book and the series is Wright takes you into the depths of al-Qaeda and illustrates the story through the narrative of what bin Laden and his followers were thinking/doing. The series illustrates the story through the lens of the USG - namely the aforementioned characters.

So, if you like this kind of thing you will really enjoy Looming Towers. It is really well done. Hopefully, I've given you enough insight to decide. Happy watching.

Great post. I have watched most of the TV show and have to say the book is much more enjoyable if not as accessible. And how about Jeff Daniels showing his acting range here and in Godless?!
If the CIA angle is interesting I suggest Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner and Ghost Wars by Steve Coll.

Seems to always be the case when you have a great book - it's difficult to fully replicate that experience with the inherent challenges of making it all fit in the magic box. And Daniels is definitely a long way from Dumb and Dumber.

And Daniels is definitely a long way from Dumb and Dumber.
No joke. Dude was terrifying in Godless.

Been watching McMafia on AMC. Pretty good show. Is really drawing me in more with each episode. I think 7 episodes are out and can be found on Amazon immediately after airing if you need to catch up.

Russian ex-patriot's son is a global banker. He sees his uncle killed by mobsters and sets in motion a plan to get revenge on the perpetrator through a series of investors and their network of police, customs agents, and thugs. Things backfire and the son, Alex, is now facing off with a Russian mob boss.

Lots of interesting twists and turns. Lots of subplots, but not busy and unmanageable. Would definitely give it a try if you're looking for a new show.

It's called McMafia because Alex favors the McDonalds method of franchising in business and has nothing to do with the restaurant or anything cheesy. It's an awful title for the show, but the show itself is really well written.

(04-17-2018 09:59 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(04-17-2018 09:16 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(04-17-2018 09:05 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Wrapping up Looming Towers this week on Hulu.

It's a mostly an accurate account of the failure of the CIA and FBI (mostly CIA) to coordinate intel in the years leading up to 9/11. Based on the book by the same name which takes you from the seedlings in the 50's that eventually grew al-Qaeda to what it becomes by the mid 90's. The show doesn't go that far back and starts right around the time just before the U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi.

It's not for everyone. If you like the subject matter; however, you will almost assuredly binge the whole thing. Gets a little stale mid way through but is otherwise hard to turn off. Even before the finale this week it brings back the angry emotions I felt over 16 years ago and in the months following. While my anger is still directed toward the ******** who did it, the series brings to visualization a sense of frustrations and mixed emotions - for me personally - knowing that it could have been stopped.

There are three things to keep your eye on. One is it really wasn't agency vs agency. It was literally a couple of personalities within those agencies. That's probably the most interesting aspect the book written by Lawrence Wright brings to the forefront - aside from just the overall story telling of what happened and why. Those personalities were John O'Neil (played by Jeff Daniels) with the FBI who had a complicated personal life at the time and Michael Scheuer of the agency who perhaps is just crazy. Peter Sarsgaard doesn't actually play him - he's loosely playing a fictional character based on Scheuer and few others in Alec Station, but Sarsgaard plays this role in an award wining capacity. The next is the performance based on Special Agent Ali Soufan (by Tahar Rahim), which was also fantastic. In reality, Soufan was probably the only person who was capable and of clear enough mind to have stopped it. And probably would have had the CIA shared with him. In fact, in the years following Soufan made statements that he believes he would have stopped it, and he eventually quit out of frustration with the bureaucracy. That leads me to the third point and I will try to not to reveal too much. Al-Qaeda made a big mistake. The bombing of the USS Cole and the investigation that followed had enough connection to 9/11 that it should have been figured out. Again, see the previous statement regarding Soufan.

The biggest difference between the book and the series is Wright takes you into the depths of al-Qaeda and illustrates the story through the narrative of what bin Laden and his followers were thinking/doing. The series illustrates the story through the lens of the USG - namely the aforementioned characters.

So, if you like this kind of thing you will really enjoy Looming Towers. It is really well done. Hopefully, I've given you enough insight to decide. Happy watching.

Great post. I have watched most of the TV show and have to say the book is much more enjoyable if not as accessible. And how about Jeff Daniels showing his acting range here and in Godless?!
If the CIA angle is interesting I suggest Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner and Ghost Wars by Steve Coll.

Seems to always be the case when you have a great book - it's difficult to fully replicate that experience with the inherent challenges of making it all fit in the magic box. And Daniels is definitely a long way from Dumb and Dumber.

Very true. I wasn't downing the tv show just pointing out that the detail in the book provides a much richer picture than tv. Of course that is always true.

(04-16-2018 10:16 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(04-16-2018 08:42 PM)WWDog Wrote:  

(04-16-2018 07:08 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  New Lost in space on Netflix is pretty darn entertaining. I like the twist on Smith and Parker Posey does pretty good with the role.

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Danger Will Robinson!

I admit when he said it for the first time I got kind of stoked. My wife had no idea what I was talking about when I started saying it.

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lol. Is there an age difference there--or just differences in television tastes?

(04-17-2018 09:05 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Wrapping up Looming Towers this week on Hulu.

It's mostly an accurate account of the failure of the CIA and FBI (mostly CIA) to coordinate intel in the years leading up to 9/11. Based on the book by the same name which takes you from the seedlings in the 50's that eventually grew al-Qaeda to what it becomes by the mid 90's. The show doesn't go that far back and starts right around the time just before the U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi.

It's not for everyone. If you like the subject matter; however, you will almost assuredly binge the whole thing. Gets a little stale mid way through but is otherwise hard to turn off. Even before the finale this week it brings back the angry emotions I felt over 16 years ago and in the months following. While my anger is still directed toward the ******** who did it, the series brings to visualization a sense of frustrations and mixed emotions - for me personally - knowing that it could have been stopped.

There are three things to keep your eye on. One is it really wasn't agency vs agency. It was literally a couple of personalities within those agencies. That's probably the most interesting aspect the book written by Lawrence Wright brings to the forefront - aside from just the overall story telling of what happened and why. Those personalities were John O'Neil (played by Jeff Daniels) with the FBI who had a complicated personal life at the time and Michael Scheuer of the agency who perhaps is just crazy. Peter Sarsgaard doesn't actually play him - he's loosely playing a fictional character based on Scheuer and few others in Alec Station, but Sarsgaard plays this role in an award wining capacity. The next is the performance based on Special Agent Ali Soufan (by Tahar Rahim), which was also fantastic. In reality, Soufan was probably the only person who was capable and of clear enough mind to have stopped it. And probably would have had the CIA shared with him. In fact, in the years following Soufan made statements that he believes he would have stopped it, and he eventually quit out of frustration with the bureaucracy. That leads me to the third point and I will try to not to reveal too much. Al-Qaeda made a big mistake. The bombing of the USS Cole and the investigation that followed had enough connection to 9/11 that it should have been figured out. Again, see the previous statement regarding Soufan.

The biggest difference between the book and the series is Wright takes you into the depths of al-Qaeda and illustrates the story through the narrative of what bin Laden and his followers were thinking/doing. The series illustrates the story through the lens of the USG - namely the aforementioned characters.

So, if you like this kind of thing you will really enjoy Looming Towers. It is really well done. Hopefully, I've given you enough insight to decide. Happy watching.

Im 3 episodes in and am hooked. Really good show. Im also going to say that Daniels is becoming one of my favorite actors. He has been very good in the last 3 roles Ive seen him in. In "Steve Jobs" he does a great job of playing Apple CEO John Sculley (doesnt hurt that all the dialogue is written by Aaron Sorkin). Most everyone was impressed with his work in "Godless"--and now, Im once again really impressed with him in "The Looming Tower".

Oh---since we are suggesting interesting TV shows----"The Terror" on AMC is well worth a watch. It really starts to hit its stride about episode 4. In 1845 a pair of British ships (Terror and Erebus) led by explorer Sir John Franklin sailed into the arctic to find a "Northwest Passage" that could become a gold mine trade route. The 2 ships became trapped in sea ice and the crew was never heard from again. That parts true--the rest of the show is an entirely fictionalized tale (at least I hope it is)--but its been pretty good so far.

clt says the ohtani show

(04-16-2018 07:46 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Started watching The Ranch on Netflix last night. If you liked That 70's Show and like Sam Elliot, you should give it a shot.

I've seen all episodes of "The Ranch". I like it. I thought the series started out a little rough, but after about 8 or 10 episodes it got into a rhythm and was much better. Don't know what they are going to do now that Danny Masterson has been fired.

(04-17-2018 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-16-2018 10:16 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(04-16-2018 08:42 PM)WWDog Wrote:  

(04-16-2018 07:08 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  New Lost in space on Netflix is pretty darn entertaining. I like the twist on Smith and Parker Posey does pretty good with the role.

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Danger Will Robinson!

I admit when he said it for the first time I got kind of stoked. My wife had no idea what I was talking about when I started saying it.

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lol. Is there an age difference there--or just differences in television tastes?

Hah, not really. I'm 37 she's 35. I just grew up watching reruns of that and star trek.

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I e been watching The Terror on AMC

Yes The Americans has been a very good series and this final season is getting very intense. If you have not seen the series, I highly recommend watching the whole thing.