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I'll speculate Memphis gets the distribution arm but the HQ goes in Nashville.

Wait. UPS is in Louisville.

South of Nashville on that new leg of interstate. 3 hours to FedEx and UPS centers. Plenty of tech peeps in Nashville.
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(10-20-2017 07:45 PM)Claw Wrote:  I'll speculate Memphis gets the distribution arm but the HQ goes in Nashville.

Wait. UPS is in Louisville.

South of Nashville on that new leg of interstate. 3 hours to FedEx and UPS centers. Plenty of tech peeps in Nashville.

Think Cincinnati fills in a ton of blanks for Amazon. It has an airport that's underutilized and has a former AirborneExpress hub in nearby Wilmington, OH Amazon wants to create another Fed Ex / UPS type subsidiary. Nashville has an underutilized airport too as American withdrew its hub after Nashville built it up. Either city is positioned for an Air Amazon type business. The Ohio-Kentucky-Tennessee region is the natural air hub of North America, as exhibited by FedEx, UPS and Airborne past decisions. Maybe Indianapolis gets strong points too.
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(10-20-2017 09:27 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(10-20-2017 07:45 PM)Claw Wrote:  I'll speculate Memphis gets the distribution arm but the HQ goes in Nashville.

Wait. UPS is in Louisville.

South of Nashville on that new leg of interstate. 3 hours to FedEx and UPS centers. Plenty of tech peeps in Nashville.

Think Cincinnati fills in a ton of blanks for Amazon. It has an airport that's underutilized and has a former AirborneExpress hub in nearby Wilmington, OH Amazon wants to create another Fed Ex / UPS type subsidiary. Nashville has an underutilized airport too as American withdrew its hub after Nashville built it up. Either city is positioned for an Air Amazon type business. The Ohio-Kentucky-Tennessee region is the natural air hub of North America, as exhibited by FedEx, UPS and Airborne past decisions. Maybe Indianapolis gets strong points too.

Minneapolis also has an underutilized airport as it used to be the main hub of North West.
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(10-20-2017 10:17 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(10-20-2017 09:27 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(10-20-2017 07:45 PM)Claw Wrote:  I'll speculate Memphis gets the distribution arm but the HQ goes in Nashville.

Wait. UPS is in Louisville.

South of Nashville on that new leg of interstate. 3 hours to FedEx and UPS centers. Plenty of tech peeps in Nashville.

Think Cincinnati fills in a ton of blanks for Amazon. It has an airport that's underutilized and has a former AirborneExpress hub in nearby Wilmington, OH Amazon wants to create another Fed Ex / UPS type subsidiary. Nashville has an underutilized airport too as American withdrew its hub after Nashville built it up. Either city is positioned for an Air Amazon type business. The Ohio-Kentucky-Tennessee region is the natural air hub of North America, as exhibited by FedEx, UPS and Airborne past decisions. Maybe Indianapolis gets strong points too.

Minneapolis also has an underutilized airport as it used to be the main hub of North West.
Their airport still uses most gates as Delta still uses it as a major hub, but is has nearby former HQ buildings that are underutilized.
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My guess is near Charlotte NC. Small city feel, friendly people and the CLT airport is like the 6th busiest in the world with flights everywhere.
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I think they're talking about a headquarters, not a transportation hub. Which just seems to be totally inviting a DOJ antitrust case.
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(10-21-2017 07:28 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  I think they're talking about a headquarters, not a transportation hub. Which just seems to be totally inviting a DOJ antitrust case.

Both are Amazon goals. They might not coincide with each other.

The whole Amazon retail enterprise could be setting up for DOJ action.
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(10-21-2017 07:28 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  I think they're talking about a headquarters, not a transportation hub. Which just seems to be totally inviting a DOJ antitrust case.

The new Headquarters could be located near the CLT airport to meet employees travel needs. They could also open a close by distribution center and utilize the FedEx hub in Greensboro. FedEx opened it in 2010 and planned over 100 airfreight flights per day. But it has set idle since the economy collapsed months before the ribbon cutting.

http://www.airportimprovement.com/articl...omes-fedex
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(10-20-2017 05:32 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  Deadline to submit was last night if I'm not mistaken. The St. Louis / Kansas City proposal is pathetic, it's 13 pages and relies on a hyperloop. For comparison's sake, Boston's was 109 and even friggin New Hampshire was 78.

Not sure why you'd call it "pathetic", L&H... does it promise tax-write offs or anything? Nope.. it's basically a list of all the pluses that Amazon would be getting in a quick easy to read 'pamphlet'.

Missouri's not about to go about making promises in that regard that it's not going to be able to keep (just the way the state govt. works around here)

(and the hyperloop thing.. that's been proposed forever... I don't think it'll ever get off the ground).
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(09-07-2017 03:57 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 03:44 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.seattletimes.com/business/ama...second-hq/

Austin, Toronto, Denver, Dallas-Fort Worth are some of the cities mentioned in two local reporters' handicap. It has to be a city with a big airport - that's an absolute prerequisite. Or the ability to vastly increase its airport size IMO. Amazon wants to have its own fleet of aircraft for shipping and logistical purposes - ala Fed Ex and UPS. I would also think a central location (or possibly east coast) would help Amazon's infrastructure as well.

My guess is it won't be close to Seattle so I think that will eliminate the rest of the west coast. No one has mentioned Houston but I think we'll be in the running too. It will probably whichever city offers the most to Bezos.

It will be a city that has expansion capacity at the airport. DFW, Houston and Austin are too congested and no way they go to Canada, Trump would crush him. Denver is a possibility but also pretty congested. I'd look at a dark horse with talent and low wages like Salt Lake City or Raleigh, maybe even OKC.

There's a LOT of desert land in El Paso and room to expand the airport to the east. But, unfortunately we have small time thinkers in our government.

Oh, and let me add. We have about 360 days of sunshine year round. No tornadoes, hurricanes, blizzards, etc. We can build a free standing airport to the east of our existing airport where they'll have carte blanche to the land around it. It doesn't take much to cement an 11,000 foot runway for heavy aircraft. Home prices are very, very reasonable and taxes can be negotiated like they also do when they want a business to build here.

The only drawback is that while we'll get the work there'll be outsiders (especially from California) which will contribute to our very, very low crime and murder rate. In El Paso you can walk at all hours of the day and night and not be afraid of being accosted. You can't do that in the majority of cities bidding for Amazon.
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Amazon received 238 proposals! The 238th largest city in the country is Provo, Utah (population about 120K) so that means a lot of small cities wasted their time and money chasing this rainbow's pot of gold.
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(10-23-2017 04:06 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Amazon received 238 proposals! The 238th largest city in the country is Provo, Utah (population about 120K) so that means a lot of small cities wasted their time and money chasing this rainbow's pot of gold.

And keep in mind some of the proposals were from more than one city (Dallas/FW), (MSP), .... So it's fair to say even more cities wasted their resources.
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(10-23-2017 11:16 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  It doesn't take much to cement an 11,000 foot runway for heavy aircraft.

You do realize that laying a slab of concrete for a runway is the easy part right?
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(10-23-2017 11:01 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(10-20-2017 05:32 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  Deadline to submit was last night if I'm not mistaken. The St. Louis / Kansas City proposal is pathetic, it's 13 pages and relies on a hyperloop. For comparison's sake, Boston's was 109 and even friggin New Hampshire was 78.

Not sure why you'd call it "pathetic", L&H... does it promise tax-write offs or anything? Nope.. it's basically a list of all the pluses that Amazon would be getting in a quick easy to read 'pamphlet'.

Missouri's not about to go about making promises in that regard that it's not going to be able to keep (just the way the state govt. works around here)

(and the hyperloop thing.. that's been proposed forever... I don't think it'll ever get off the ground).

Oh I'm not surprised, after all Greitens' whole campaign and regime has been about not giving out special favors and such while the city-county divide keeps St. Louis from really getting anything off the ground. But when you have other cities out there putting together proposals many multiples larger with specifics and testimonials instead of a 'please pick us' document it doesn't exactly look good. I guess it'd be politically difficult to not submit anything whatsoever, especially after the whole Chinese air cargo hub thing fizzled out a while back.
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