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Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
Seems like not even man himself would have evolved without their destruction. Seems like we may be the only intelligent life in the Universe because of time and circumstance. It's almost like there was some kind of Divine intervention.
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
In fact, the extinction of Dinosaurs did determine the evolution of man:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...221710.htm
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
From the link above:


Senior author, Professor Anjali Goswami (UCL Genetics, Evolution & Environment and UCL Earth Sciences), said: "Our findings refute those of other studies which overlooked the fossils of placental mammals present around the last mass extinction. Using rigorous methods, we've successfully tracked the evolution of early placental mammals and reconstructed how it changed over time. While the rate differed between species, we see a clear and massive spike in the rates of evolution straight after the dinosaurs become extinct, suggesting our ancestors greatly benefitted from the demise of the dinosaurs. The huge impact of the dinosaur extinction on the evolution of our ancestors really shows how important this event was in shaping the modern world."



So there you have it. Science explains it all.
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
seems legit, but still it all looks to me much more like a coincidence. Evolution is a mastermind but the consequences are impossible to tell anyway
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
(09-05-2017 05:10 AM)petegee Wrote:  seems legit, but still it all looks to me much more like a coincidence. Evolution is a mastermind but the consequences are impossible to tell anyway

What I'm grappling with is the extraordinary events that had to have taken place in order for intelligent man to even exist and how that impacts on the belief that there is other intelligent life out in the universe. One would have to believe that the evolution intelligent life is a given. That "man" is the ultimate conclusion on any habitable planet given time.
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
At the end of the day, math argues against any other intelligent life in the Universe and Science proves it. If a tree falls in the woods.
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(09-05-2017 11:21 PM)Dasville Wrote:  At the end of the day, math argues against any other intelligent life in the Universe and Science proves it. If a tree falls in the woods.
It all does seem true, though extremely hard to prove anyway. Guess we will never know. I recently read Kurt Vonnegut's "The Sirens of Titan" - it just nails it. Vonnegut has quite a sense of humor, and so does the Universe
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
(09-05-2017 11:21 PM)Dasville Wrote:  At the end of the day, math argues against any other intelligent life in the Universe and Science proves it. If a tree falls in the woods.

I don't think so. Based on size alone, the odds are that other intelligent lifeforms have evolved and existed in the past, currently and probably into the future.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/across-cosm...fe-common/
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
(09-06-2017 03:38 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(09-05-2017 11:21 PM)Dasville Wrote:  At the end of the day, math argues against any other intelligent life in the Universe and Science proves it. If a tree falls in the woods.

I don't think so. Based on size alone, the odds are that other intelligent lifeforms have evolved and existed in the past, currently and probably into the future.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/across-cosm...fe-common/

Answer my first question. Did the evolution of intelligent life on earth depend on the extinction of the Dinosaur?
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
Are you saying the dinosaurs were not intelligent? They might disagree.
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
(09-11-2017 09:02 AM)Claw Wrote:  Are you saying the dinosaurs were not intelligent? They might disagree.

Thank you!
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
(09-09-2017 10:50 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 03:38 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(09-05-2017 11:21 PM)Dasville Wrote:  At the end of the day, math argues against any other intelligent life in the Universe and Science proves it. If a tree falls in the woods.

I don't think so. Based on size alone, the odds are that other intelligent lifeforms have evolved and existed in the past, currently and probably into the future.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/across-cosm...fe-common/

Answer my first question. Did the evolution of intelligent life on earth depend on the extinction of the Dinosaur?

I can't answer that question. However, I think it's logical to assume that the extinction of the dinosaur was necessary in order for mammals to multiply and evolve.
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
(09-12-2017 11:27 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(09-09-2017 10:50 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 03:38 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(09-05-2017 11:21 PM)Dasville Wrote:  At the end of the day, math argues against any other intelligent life in the Universe and Science proves it. If a tree falls in the woods.

I don't think so. Based on size alone, the odds are that other intelligent lifeforms have evolved and existed in the past, currently and probably into the future.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/across-cosm...fe-common/

Answer my first question. Did the evolution of intelligent life on earth depend on the extinction of the Dinosaur?

I can't answer that question. However, I think it's logical to assume that the extinction of the dinosaur was necessary in order for mammals to multiply and evolve.


So one factor to the increased pace of evolution after the extinction of the dinosaur is the "thrifty phenotype".
Here is a recent study relating to that:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5438120/
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
(09-12-2017 12:15 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:27 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(09-09-2017 10:50 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 03:38 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(09-05-2017 11:21 PM)Dasville Wrote:  At the end of the day, math argues against any other intelligent life in the Universe and Science proves it. If a tree falls in the woods.

I don't think so. Based on size alone, the odds are that other intelligent lifeforms have evolved and existed in the past, currently and probably into the future.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/across-cosm...fe-common/

Answer my first question. Did the evolution of intelligent life on earth depend on the extinction of the Dinosaur?

I can't answer that question. However, I think it's logical to assume that the extinction of the dinosaur was necessary in order for mammals to multiply and evolve.


So one factor to the increased pace of evolution after the extinction of the dinosaur is the "thrifty phenotype".
Here is a recent study relating to that:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5438120/

For our evolution I'd say it was a component. Even at that, it is only but one component when you consider that virtually all mammals never developed intelligence. YJust because our life evolved in this way, it doesn't automatically make it universally true across all planets in the habital zone.
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RE: Did the evolution of intelligent life depend on Dinosaur extinction?
What is the definition of intelligence here?
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