(08-07-2017 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 02:35 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 02:17 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Tillerson used email alias at Exxon to talk climate: New York attorney general

Effing crook.

I didnt realize that the executives at Exxon were covered by the Freedom of Information Act. Could you please tell me which section of that law covers a requirement extending to private citizens?

That would be a big boon to me, as I could point my clients to that and rake in massive legal fees for that rather obscure requirement that you seem to imply exists where the FOIA is so pervasive as to cover not just public official's communications, but extends that requirement to private citizens.

Be sure and include not just the cite to the act, but a way that I can send you a reward for discovering this amazingly rare and unknown provision of that law!!!

This has nothing to do with the FOIA. The alias was known by Justice Department staffers who handle the FOIA requests and the emails were turned over per the law.

And again, from the article:

Quote:Top federal officials using email aliases is not illegal or new, considering others in the former Obama administration also used them, arguing security concerns and spam to their official email addresses swamping their in-boxes.

Move along...this does not prove jack squat. It's just another bone thrown to you buy your right-wing media overlord to achieve exactly what it did...a thread here and likely on all the other right-wing leaning message boards and websites.

Can you say sheeple?

And actually, having an alias is not as legal as you seemingly think it is. Depends on how and why it is used. Tell Lisa Jackson that. I guess I cant use Lois Lerner as an example because Holder and Lynch did an NHL All-Pro job of goaltending for her on that (among a lot of other items, but I digress...)

I look forward to your cite on the comment about Tillerson. Or is it just your version of spouting intentional bull****?

You know, that is a really interesting and unknown aspect of that law. You may have hit a gold mine there!!!

A G A I N, I never said Tillerson broke any laws or violated any part of the FOIA. Mostly, because he was not subject to that then and everyone knows it! Geez.

Finally, this story has NOTHING to do with the FOIA. Read the whole story. The alias was known about in 2016 before the meeting and was known to justice officials who handled FOIA requests...not to mention it is not illegal for her to have and use an alias as long as she is preserving and she was, as evidences by the fact that YOU HAVE THE DAMNED E-MAILS!

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 02:35 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I didnt realize that the executives at Exxon were covered by the Freedom of Information Act. Could you please tell me which section of that law covers a requirement extending to private citizens?

That would be a big boon to me, as I could point my clients to that and rake in massive legal fees for that rather obscure requirement that you seem to imply exists where the FOIA is so pervasive as to cover not just public official's communications, but extends that requirement to private citizens.

Be sure and include not just the cite to the act, but a way that I can send you a reward for discovering this amazingly rare and unknown provision of that law!!!

This has nothing to do with the FOIA. The alias was known by Justice Department staffers who handle the FOIA requests and the emails were turned over per the law.

And again, from the article:

Quote:Top federal officials using email aliases is not illegal or new, considering others in the former Obama administration also used them, arguing security concerns and spam to their official email addresses swamping their in-boxes.

Move along...this does not prove jack squat. It's just another bone thrown to you buy your right-wing media overlord to achieve exactly what it did...a thread here and likely on all the other right-wing leaning message boards and websites.

Can you say sheeple?

And actually, having an alias is not as legal as you seemingly think it is. Depends on how and why it is used. Tell Lisa Jackson that. I guess I cant use Lois Lerner as an example because Holder and Lynch did an NHL All-Pro job of goaltending for her on that (among a lot of other items, but I digress...)

I look forward to your cite on the comment about Tillerson. Or is it just your version of spouting intentional bull****?

You know, that is a really interesting and unknown aspect of that law. You may have hit a gold mine there!!!

A G A I N, I never said Tillerson broke any laws or violated any part of the FOIA. Mostly, because he was not subject to that then and everyone knows it! Geez.

Finally, this story has NOTHING to do with the FOIA. Read the whole story. The alias was known about in 2016 before the meeting and was known to justice officials who handled FOIA requests...not to mention it is not illegal for her to have and use an alias as long as she is preserving and she was, as evidences by the fact that YOU HAVE THE DAMNED E-MAILS!

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

The Junior Mod has spoken!!!!

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

So why did you bring him into it at all if it was a "joke"? This is standard operating procedure for you. You bring some nonsense into a thread as a "joke" in an attempt to deflect from the main subject.

(08-08-2017 10:30 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

So why did you bring him into it at all if it was a "joke"? This is standard operating procedure for you. You bring some nonsense into a thread as a "joke" in an attempt to deflect from the main subject.

Because I thought it was sort of ironic that using fake e-mail accounts is not new or reserved for use only by democrats. I didn't think people would run with this as some commentary on FOIA requests when that was never any part of the story in the OP. Sorry.

But more importantly...don't EVEN try and pretend for one second that all you and your ilk ever post are replies speaking directly to the topic at hand with nary an attempt for a little levity.

(08-08-2017 10:25 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This has nothing to do with the FOIA. The alias was known by Justice Department staffers who handle the FOIA requests and the emails were turned over per the law.

And again, from the article:

Move along...this does not prove jack squat. It's just another bone thrown to you buy your right-wing media overlord to achieve exactly what it did...a thread here and likely on all the other right-wing leaning message boards and websites.

Can you say sheeple?

And actually, having an alias is not as legal as you seemingly think it is. Depends on how and why it is used. Tell Lisa Jackson that. I guess I cant use Lois Lerner as an example because Holder and Lynch did an NHL All-Pro job of goaltending for her on that (among a lot of other items, but I digress...)

I look forward to your cite on the comment about Tillerson. Or is it just your version of spouting intentional bull****?

You know, that is a really interesting and unknown aspect of that law. You may have hit a gold mine there!!!

A G A I N, I never said Tillerson broke any laws or violated any part of the FOIA. Mostly, because he was not subject to that then and everyone knows it! Geez.

Finally, this story has NOTHING to do with the FOIA. Read the whole story. The alias was known about in 2016 before the meeting and was known to justice officials who handled FOIA requests...not to mention it is not illegal for her to have and use an alias as long as she is preserving and she was, as evidences by the fact that YOU HAVE THE DAMNED E-MAILS!

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

The Junior Mod has spoken!!!!

Seek help.

(08-08-2017 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:25 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And actually, having an alias is not as legal as you seemingly think it is. Depends on how and why it is used. Tell Lisa Jackson that. I guess I cant use Lois Lerner as an example because Holder and Lynch did an NHL All-Pro job of goaltending for her on that (among a lot of other items, but I digress...)

I look forward to your cite on the comment about Tillerson. Or is it just your version of spouting intentional bull****?

You know, that is a really interesting and unknown aspect of that law. You may have hit a gold mine there!!!

A G A I N, I never said Tillerson broke any laws or violated any part of the FOIA. Mostly, because he was not subject to that then and everyone knows it! Geez.

Finally, this story has NOTHING to do with the FOIA. Read the whole story. The alias was known about in 2016 before the meeting and was known to justice officials who handled FOIA requests...not to mention it is not illegal for her to have and use an alias as long as she is preserving and she was, as evidences by the fact that YOU HAVE THE DAMNED E-MAILS!

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

The Junior Mod has spoken!!!!

Seek help.

I'd suggest the same for you, but you think you're better than everyone who posts on this board. So it would obviously fall on deaf ears.

(08-08-2017 12:11 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:25 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  A G A I N, I never said Tillerson broke any laws or violated any part of the FOIA. Mostly, because he was not subject to that then and everyone knows it! Geez.

Finally, this story has NOTHING to do with the FOIA. Read the whole story. The alias was known about in 2016 before the meeting and was known to justice officials who handled FOIA requests...not to mention it is not illegal for her to have and use an alias as long as she is preserving and she was, as evidences by the fact that YOU HAVE THE DAMNED E-MAILS!

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

The Junior Mod has spoken!!!!

Seek help.

I'd suggest the same for you, but you think you're better than everyone who posts on this board. So it would obviously fall on deaf ears.

No, I don't think I'm better than everyone on this board and I've told you this at least three or four times. Now who has deaf ears? Again, seek help.

(08-08-2017 10:30 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

So why did you bring him into it at all if it was a "joke"? This is standard operating procedure for you. You bring some nonsense into a thread as a "joke" in an attempt to deflect from the main subject.

Just ignore the . He wouldn't be worth pissing on if his head were on fire.

(08-08-2017 12:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:30 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

So why did you bring him into it at all if it was a "joke"? This is standard operating procedure for you. You bring some nonsense into a thread as a "joke" in an attempt to deflect from the main subject.

Just ignore the . He wouldn't be worth pissing on if his head were on fire.

Love you too sunshine!

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

So you added something completely superfluous for no reason at all? That seems strange. Hell, why not talk about pink elephants and elf fairies then? I mean either you are implying Tillerson was subject to FOIA, or you just bald-ased added something completely non-germane to the thread just for sh-ts and giggles. Neither prong of that makes you look really good or smart, you do realize that, right?

(08-08-2017 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

So you added something completely superfluous for no reason at all? That seems strange. Hell, why not talk about pink elephants and elf fairies then? I mean either you are implying Tillerson was subject to FOIA, or you just bald-ased added something completely non-germane to the thread just for sh-ts and giggles. Neither prong of that makes you look really good or smart, you do realize that, right?

Dude, you're pretty new around here. Not everyone takes this place as seriously as you appear to be doing. Chillax. I was just trying to have a little fun. Apologies.

(08-08-2017 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

So you added something completely superfluous for no reason at all? That seems strange. Hell, why not talk about pink elephants and elf fairies then? I mean either you are implying Tillerson was subject to FOIA, or you just bald-ased added something completely non-germane to the thread just for sh-ts and giggles. Neither prong of that makes you look really good or smart, you do realize that, right?

Dude, you're pretty new around here. Not everyone takes this place as seriously as you appear to be doing. Chillax. I was just trying to have a little fun. Apologies.

kinda like Frankenstein and the little girl

The epic meltdown that the resident libs on this board would have if Trump or any of his cabinet ever met ANYONE using aliases, they would be calling for impeachment, public executions, etc. The hypocrisy is quite frankly staggering, but not surprising.

(08-08-2017 03:09 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  The epic meltdown that the resident libs on this board would have if Trump or any of his cabinet ever met ANYONE using aliases, they would be calling for impeachment, public executions, etc. The hypocrisy is quite frankly staggering, but not surprising.

You mean like this?

Donald Trump masqueraded as publicist to brag about himself

Paging John Miller...John Barron perhaps?

And FWIW - She did not meet anyone using an alias. She used her alias email account for lots of things that just happened to also cover some communication about the meet and greet with Billy. You're trying way to hard to make this non-story into something...and failing in the process.

(08-08-2017 02:02 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

So you added something completely superfluous for no reason at all? That seems strange. Hell, why not talk about pink elephants and elf fairies then? I mean either you are implying Tillerson was subject to FOIA, or you just bald-ased added something completely non-germane to the thread just for sh-ts and giggles. Neither prong of that makes you look really good or smart, you do realize that, right?

Dude, you're pretty new around here. Not everyone takes this place as seriously as you appear to be doing. Chillax. I was just trying to have a little fun. Apologies.

kinda like Frankenstein and the little girl

Explain? I don't get the reference.

(08-08-2017 03:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 02:02 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Tang, I have already answered your question about Tillerson. Not to mention, please stop ignoring the I added to my initial comment about Tillerson in this thread. I was NEVER implying he was subject to the same requirement as Lynch was in her role as AG. Now kindly move along.

So you added something completely superfluous for no reason at all? That seems strange. Hell, why not talk about pink elephants and elf fairies then? I mean either you are implying Tillerson was subject to FOIA, or you just bald-ased added something completely non-germane to the thread just for sh-ts and giggles. Neither prong of that makes you look really good or smart, you do realize that, right?

Dude, you're pretty new around here. Not everyone takes this place as seriously as you appear to be doing. Chillax. I was just trying to have a little fun. Apologies.

kinda like Frankenstein and the little girl

Explain? I don't get the reference.

dude...Boris Karloff...1930's original movie...playing by the river, throwing flowers in the water, Frankenstein throws girl in water "just trying to have a little fun"...the monsters ignorance exposed.

(08-08-2017 03:38 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 03:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 02:02 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  So you added something completely superfluous for no reason at all? That seems strange. Hell, why not talk about pink elephants and elf fairies then? I mean either you are implying Tillerson was subject to FOIA, or you just bald-ased added something completely non-germane to the thread just for sh-ts and giggles. Neither prong of that makes you look really good or smart, you do realize that, right?

Dude, you're pretty new around here. Not everyone takes this place as seriously as you appear to be doing. Chillax. I was just trying to have a little fun. Apologies.

kinda like Frankenstein and the little girl

Explain? I don't get the reference.

dude...Boris Karloff...1930's original movie...playing by the river, throwing flowers in the water, Frankenstein throws girl in water "just trying to have a little fun"...the monsters ignorance exposed.

Thanks...I guess I've never seen the original for some strange reason.

(08-08-2017 09:48 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Its not FOIA related. Lynch testified under oath tha tshe only used her actual DOJ email address when dealing with DOJ matters. She lied under oath.

Although, it will be very FOIA related if they failed to turn over all emails with the alias.

Over/Under on the # of Bleach-bit downloads at DOJ?

Looking into some stock in Home Depot too, hammer sales are through the roof!

(08-08-2017 03:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 03:09 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  The epic meltdown that the resident libs on this board would have if Trump or any of his cabinet ever met ANYONE using aliases, they would be calling for impeachment, public executions, etc. The hypocrisy is quite frankly staggering, but not surprising.

You mean like this?

Donald Trump masqueraded as publicist to brag about himself

Paging John Miller...John Barron perhaps?

And FWIW - She did not meet anyone using an alias. She used her alias email account for lots of things that just happened to also cover some communication about the meet and greet with Billy. You're trying way to hard to make this non-story into something...and failing in the process.

Be interesting to find out if some or any of this "communication about the meet and greet" took place before the completely coincidental, chance meeting of the two of them at some airport in Arizona...

Will "Elizabeth Carlisle" turn over all the emails? Do we know? How will we know?

Time for a SP with subpoena power.