(08-06-2017 12:47 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:40 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:58 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:54 AM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder in history how common is it a party is actively looking to replace their own guy 7 months into his term.

The regret coming from serious republicans is palpable.

These are the people who really, really didn't want him in the first place.

And a lot of them just don't like him personally (probably pretty easy to do). Most of the Senate has egos that rival not only Trump's, but even Obama's.

So Obama has a bigger ego than Trump?

Is that a trick question?

Does a cartload of pig manure smell worse than a baby's dirty diaper?

Wow!

You really have some hard feelings to believe that after Trump's 40 year public history.

(08-06-2017 06:51 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 06:07 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 05:59 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Count me as one who has a huge man-crush on Ben Sasse. I would love for him to run in 2020.

The problem, perversely, is that the media and progressive criticism of Trump is so over-the-top delusional that the American electorate will instinctively rally around him in in 2020. Solid alternatives, such as Sasse, Cotton, Haley, Scott, or even Pence, will be sidelined, and we will yet again be stuck with another four years of an ego-centric, incompetent president.

After 8 years of Obama, I don't know if this nation can survive more than 4 years of Trump. I hope I am wrong.

So Trump's action deserve no criticism?

Thank you for illustrating my point, swag.

That a right-leaning poster would prefer someone other than first-term President Trump to be the Republican candidate in 2020 would, for most logical thinkers, be an indication dissatisfaction.

But not for the progressive mind. It apparently does not count as criticism unless we are all wearing ****** hats, threatening to burn down the white house, blocking highways in support for those who slander police and labeling anyone who disagrees with us as white supremacists. That's progressive logic for you.

And the result will be another term of Trump.

Congratulations.

You misspelled NeverTrumper. I even highlighted where you misspelled it.

(08-06-2017 01:03 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 06:51 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 06:07 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 05:59 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Count me as one who has a huge man-crush on Ben Sasse. I would love for him to run in 2020.

The problem, perversely, is that the media and progressive criticism of Trump is so over-the-top delusional that the American electorate will instinctively rally around him in in 2020. Solid alternatives, such as Sasse, Cotton, Haley, Scott, or even Pence, will be sidelined, and we will yet again be stuck with another four years of an ego-centric, incompetent president.

After 8 years of Obama, I don't know if this nation can survive more than 4 years of Trump. I hope I am wrong.

So Trump's action deserve no criticism?

Thank you for illustrating my point, swag.

That a right-leaning poster would prefer someone other than first-term President Trump to be the Republican candidate in 2020 would, for most logical thinkers, be an indication dissatisfaction.

But not for the progressive mind. It apparently does not count as criticism unless we are all wearing ****** hats, threatening to burn down the white house, blocking highways in support for those who slander police and labeling anyone who disagrees with us as white supremacists. That's progressive logic for you.

And the result will be another term of Trump.

Congratulations.

You misspelled NeverTrumper. I even highlighted where you misspelled it.

Okay, you got me there. Guilty as charged.

(08-06-2017 05:59 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Count me as one who has a huge man-crush on Ben Sasse. I would love for him to run in 2020.

Ben Sasse is a creep. The hair, the teeth, the high-heeled cowgirl booties. There's just something off with that guy.

(08-06-2017 05:59 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Solid alternatives, such as Sasse, Haley, Scott

LOL, what planet are you on? Trump's base wouldn't touch any of these RINOs with a 10-foot pole. I honestly can't name a single state where any of those candidates would feel confident in winning. You might as well run Paul Ryan.

Clueless.

Ross Perot would have been a better president than Trump.

(08-06-2017 12:57 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:47 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:40 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:58 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:54 AM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder in history how common is it a party is actively looking to replace their own guy 7 months into his term.

The regret coming from serious republicans is palpable.

These are the people who really, really didn't want him in the first place.

And a lot of them just don't like him personally (probably pretty easy to do). Most of the Senate has egos that rival not only Trump's, but even Obama's.

So Obama has a bigger ego than Trump?

Is that a trick question?

Does a cartload of pig manure smell worse than a baby's dirty diaper?

Wow!

You really have some hard feelings to believe that after Trump's 40 year public history.

Trump's lifetime of lying and deceit are pretty much limited to self-promotion -- both financial and just plain bragging.

Obama's lies were less in number, but far more insidious. They were employed for purposes of weaponizing the government against the taxpaying American citizenry.

Both of them have earned a spot in hell, if it exists. Obama's future destination will be several rings deeper than Trump's.

Ben Sasse? Jeff Flake? Umm, sorry, I don't even know who these two jokers are. If they ran for a state seat and lost it tells me not even their people like them.

As far as now, if Donnie keeps up what's he's doing and runs again, he's got my vote. He's done more for OUR country than Oblunder did for his ego, because that's what he only accomplished, upping his stupid ego and thinking only that his port cracklings made noise.

(08-06-2017 12:57 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:47 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:40 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:58 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:54 AM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder in history how common is it a party is actively looking to replace their own guy 7 months into his term.

The regret coming from serious republicans is palpable.

These are the people who really, really didn't want him in the first place.

And a lot of them just don't like him personally (probably pretty easy to do). Most of the Senate has egos that rival not only Trump's, but even Obama's.

So Obama has a bigger ego than Trump?

Is that a trick question?

Does a cartload of pig manure smell worse than a baby's dirty diaper?

Wow!

You really have some hard feelings to believe that after Trump's 40 year public history.

Trump doesn't think he knows everything. He thinks he can hire the best. Obama thinks he personally knows better than everyone else on the planet and thinks he missed his callings as professional golfer or professional basketball player. Obama was the original narcissist-in-chief. Trump is a good imitation, but not quite the real thing.

(08-06-2017 05:59 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Count me as one who has a huge man-crush on Ben Sasse. I would love for him to run in 2020.

The problem, perversely, is that the media and progressive criticism of Trump is so over-the-top delusional that the American electorate will instinctively rally around him in in 2020. Solid alternatives, such as Sasse, Cotton, Haley, Scott, or even Pence, will be sidelined, and we will yet again be stuck with another four years of an ego-centric, incompetent president.

After 8 years of Obama, I don't know if this nation can survive more than 4 years of Trump. I hope I am wrong.

Tom Cotton as President is the only thing that frightens me more than 4 more years of Trump.

(08-06-2017 03:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:57 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:47 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:40 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:58 AM)bullet Wrote:  These are the people who really, really didn't want him in the first place.

And a lot of them just don't like him personally (probably pretty easy to do). Most of the Senate has egos that rival not only Trump's, but even Obama's.

So Obama has a bigger ego than Trump?

Is that a trick question?

Does a cartload of pig manure smell worse than a baby's dirty diaper?

Wow!

You really have some hard feelings to believe that after Trump's 40 year public history.

Trump doesn't think he knows everything. He thinks he can hire the best. Obama thinks he personally knows better than everyone else on the planet and thinks he missed his callings as professional golfer or professional basketball player. Obama was the original narcissist-in-chief. Trump is a good imitation, but not quite the real thing.

He doesn't? He said that he has a great brain and knows all.

(08-06-2017 10:54 AM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder in history how common is it a party is actively looking to replace their own guy 7 months into his term.

I'm only aware of one other example -- Carter in 1977. But as with Trump today, it wasn't a question of Carter's supporters bailing on him. Rather, the people he had never won over in the first place just kept plotting against him as they had been doing all along. This anti-Carter activity eventually turned into the Ted Kennedy campaign of 1979-'80.

Quote:The regret coming from serious republicans is palpable.

They regret that they couldn't stop Trump in the primaries. But none of them actually wish that Hillary! were the President right now.

(08-06-2017 03:32 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 03:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:57 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:47 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:40 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  So Obama has a bigger ego than Trump?

Is that a trick question?

Does a cartload of pig manure smell worse than a baby's dirty diaper?

Wow!

You really have some hard feelings to believe that after Trump's 40 year public history.

Trump doesn't think he knows everything. He thinks he can hire the best. Obama thinks he personally knows better than everyone else on the planet and thinks he missed his callings as professional golfer or professional basketball player. Obama was the original narcissist-in-chief. Trump is a good imitation, but not quite the real thing.

He doesn't? He said that he has a great brain and knows all.

Yeah, I'm sure the voices in your head sound exactly like President Trump.

(08-06-2017 11:45 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:00 AM)bullet Wrote:  I still don't really think he will run again. He will get bored of it. But he might decide to run again just to get back at people, even if he really doesn't want it.

I don't think he will run again either but it will not be because he got bored. He has stated before that he didn't realize how hard and how difficult it is running a country. I think he will not be able to handle another 4 years.

He will cite his own age (74 in 2020) and his doctor's "advice" and claim the country should not have to take a needless risk on the president's health. At least, that's what he will say if he thinks he is going to lose. If he thinks he will win, I honestly believe he will go for it. And then just resign in the 2nd term -- his own personal homage to Nixon! -- if/when he gets bored/frustrated with the whole show.

I still can't believe someone openly admitted to having a man-crush on creepy Ben Sasse.

WTF?!

(08-06-2017 03:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 05:59 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Count me as one who has a huge man-crush on Ben Sasse. I would love for him to run in 2020.

The problem, perversely, is that the media and progressive criticism of Trump is so over-the-top delusional that the American electorate will instinctively rally around him in in 2020. Solid alternatives, such as Sasse, Cotton, Haley, Scott, or even Pence, will be sidelined, and we will yet again be stuck with another four years of an ego-centric, incompetent president.

After 8 years of Obama, I don't know if this nation can survive more than 4 years of Trump. I hope I am wrong.

Tom Cotton as President is the only thing that frightens me more than 4 more years of Trump.

Cotton could be aligning himself to be Pence's VP choice. In that case, you guys may have 23 1/2 years to go.

(08-06-2017 03:51 PM)Kronke Wrote:  I still can't believe someone openly admitted to having a man-crush on creepy Ben Sasse.

WTF?!

And you know what else? That guy's vote, and his donations, count just as much as yours, kronke. How's that for peeing in your Wheaties?

Sasse/Scott, 2020.

(08-06-2017 04:02 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 03:51 PM)Kronke Wrote:  I still can't believe someone openly admitted to having a man-crush on creepy Ben Sasse.

WTF?!

Sasse/Scott, 2020.

Cringe. Nothing worse than an ostracized, political fanboy touting his "dream ticket" as if that means it's actually going to happen.

I do hope he runs, though, just for the sheer entertainment. It will be absolutely priceless watching Trump pummel that creep in the primaries. There's plenty of material, believe me.

and did Kasich not get the memo that his political career is over?

(08-06-2017 06:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  and did Kasich not get the memo that his political career is over?

Maybe he should think about a run as a moderate Democrat. He would probably do well. His positions are mostly centrist anyway.

(08-06-2017 06:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  and did Kasich not get the memo that his political career is over?

He thought a convention full of Trump and Cruz delegates might somehow turn to him in a brokered convention. He lives in as much of a delusional bubble as Hillary. If he had dropped out after South Carolina like he should have, we probably have a President Cruz or President Rubio now.