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RE: OT: Karma
(04-11-2017 01:44 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 01:23 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 01:19 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 01:13 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 01:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Money talks in FBS the sooner you come to terms with that the better. Having a checkbook is a good thing at the highest level of Football. CUSA is on the verge of exploding because of you guessed it...the lack of money. That is just rumor but given the huge pay cut it would make sense.

I love all of the G5 teams and would love a home and home with anyone of them. But like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us, if you have any say with your AD then make it happen. I won't lose any sleep over it I can promise you that. But I'm sure Coastal and LU will be playing in the near distance future. You know it and I know it.

Actually I don't know that and you don't know that.

But the real question here is this...why would you want to play us? Other than complete desperation on your part to get FBS games on the schedule...

This would hurt your perception battle in your state just like it would hurt ours in SC.

And again...you're agreeing with me so much that you're trying to make it a disagreement. Here it is simply for you: Liberty = absolutely zero leverage to schedule anyone other than paying a huge amount of money. End of story.

I don't know if we will play you for certain but given our long history it's a good guess. Do I care if we play you? No I do not care either way. And unless you have a source other than looking into a crystal ball you don't know who will do a H&H game with LU. If you have a link that you can share that would apply to every school in the FBS saying something to the effect that our school won't play LU in FBS FB then I'll take you seriously. Otherwise you are just a forum poster that is on the outside looking in like 99% of the posters on CSN.

I'm very openly stating that I don't know if we will play and you don't know either. So actually, you're the one claiming to have a crystal ball saying you know for a fact we will be playing soon. Where is your link? Oh I guess you're just an ass clown poster like the rest of us.

I'm going to give this another try. Try real hard to stay focused.

As a Liberty fan, why would you not see a problem with Liberty playing Coastal, outside of the fact that Liberty is desperate for games?

Do you really not think that would look bad for both Liberty and Coastal?

I'll give you a hint as to my end game here....the only motivation (AKA leverage point) here is that Liberty needs games. And that my friend, is negotiating from a place of weakness.

I'm waiting on that link saying all of the FBS won't schedule us. Please provide the link. You must have a source since you keep saying we are desperate. And I said it is a guess we will be playing since we have a long history. If you think that's not a true statement then you be cray cray. The leverage we have is away games are easy to schedule and we need home games. So we can say no to a school that just wants a one and done home game. That's the leverage we have in that situation. In others that are P5's that won't do a H&H we can to a 2 for 1 or a one and done at LU and pay the P5. All of it is doable. And yes I am a outsider looking in but I don't make broad comments like Coastal is desperate for games or whatever and make it sound factual when it's not.

I think Coastal playing LU won't be good or bad it will just be more of the same. What I think will be a negative is your small stadium. I've seen pics it's a very nice stadium and something you should be proud of. But to get those high level P5 teams to do a home will be challenging but not impossible without expanding your seat capacity. To build that name for yourself you need to host some P5's and occasionally beat them. That would apply to any new FBS team.
I guess Liberty teaches its grads as much commons sense, as it does science.
04-13-2017 10:47 PM
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RE: OT: Karma
(04-11-2017 01:13 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 01:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 01:00 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 12:05 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 11:52 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  It actually made me laugh out loud to read this. The fact that you truly believe that you have any leverage whatsoever when it comes to FBS scheduling.

The ONLY thing you have to offer ANYONE is a boat load of money. So prepare to crack open that check book fattened up by your online "school."

You'll get a few home FBS games, but you'll pay a hefty price for them.

Actually we are in a position of power and have quite bit of leverage. We need home and homes and can pay P5 or upper level G5's if we need to do a one and done home game. GSU or any lower level G5 school has zero leverage on us. I'm not saying that as an insult I'm saying we can say no to a one and done at home with GSU. GSU is the one that needs us given their position. Doing away games is the easy part of scheduling.

That aside I'm being told we have our 2018 and 2019 schedules almost done. I'm sure we will have quite a bit of home and home games on it. And maybe some one and done home games at LU. Don't confuse your hate of LU as some widely accepted thing. Most Athletic Directors don't care what Coastal thinks or what a poster on a forum thinks. Like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us. But it's doubtful anyone one this forum has their schools Athletic Director answering to them so in the end tough sh*t.

So what you did with this post is make a long winded effort to repackage what I already said and pretend it was different somehow.

You just admitted that your leverage is your checkbook. And like I stated in the post you are supposedly refuting, you have absolutely zero leverage except for your check book.

You'll pay dearly for the majority of the home FBS games you get.

And the problem I have with Coastal potentially playing liberty has absolutely nothing to do with hatred or politics or anything like that. I'm against it because it will further a perception problem we are fighting in the state of SC that we are still FCS. If we continue playing the same opponent that we played in our FCS days, it is counter productive to what we are trying to do perception wise.

Out of every single team in the Sun Belt, Coastal has the most to lose by even putting liberty on the schedule in my opinion. Much like we shouldn't be playing Furman or SC State any time in the near to intermediate future.

Money talks in FBS the sooner you come to terms with that the better. Having a checkbook is a good thing at the highest level of Football. CUSA is on the verge of exploding because of you guessed it...the lack of money. That is just rumor but given the huge pay cut it would make sense.

I love all of the G5 teams and would love a home and home with anyone of them. But like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us, if you have any say with your AD then make it happen. I won't lose any sleep over it I can promise you that. But I'm sure Coastal and LU will be playing in the near distance future. You know it and I know it.

Actually I don't know that and you don't know that.

But the real question here is this...why would you want to play us? Other than complete desperation on your part to get FBS games on the schedule...

This would hurt your perception battle in your state just like it would hurt ours in SC.

And again...you're agreeing with me so much that you're trying to make it a disagreement. Here it is simply for you: Liberty = absolutely zero leverage to schedule anyone other than paying a huge amount of money. End of story.
Grasshopper, you leap before you think. Do you really want to compare the leverage that Coastal has compared to what LU has? Your points are valid in your opinion in your disdain for LU. It's a position shared by many and has been stated many times. But LU will fill your hopeful stadium expansion like App St or possibly ODU with traveling fans that will drive versus most all other SBC teams. LU's resources are much greater than CCU. Let's hope your FB attendance doubles to 16,000 per game, a figure that LU achieved playing in the lowly BSC with sucky FCS teams.
04-18-2017 11:22 AM
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RE: OT: Karma
(04-11-2017 08:40 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  So on April Fools I made a weak joke about Liberty and GS scheduling a H/H. Yesterday someone broke news that we are hosting Texas Southern in 2018. The article also stated that our home game with Tulsa for 2018 has been cancelled.

Anyways since we got backed out on a short notice we might have to schedule Liberty 03-hissyfit03-hissyfit03-hissyfit if we want a "G5" home game next year. Obviously none of us want to schedule them but if we it ends up happening then I'll have to blame it on karma striking back after what I said.
Some karma thoughts:
- what goes around comes around
- what you resist persist
- karma is both past and future
- karma gives one the opportunity to right a wrong and happens actually between death and rebirth rather than between birth and death
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