(06-16-2017 07:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Could the PAC 12 members to lobby the NCAA to have RMAC moved up to D1 for both men and women's LAX?

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RMAC could also gain in Men's club teams St. Edwards, Fort Lewis, Metro State, Western State.

WCC could wind up sponsoring Men's LAX.
Women's LAX club teams could pop up.

Right now, there are lack of western LAX to really have a good conference. The RMAC might be the key to help jump start new western LAX conferences for the west coast and the plains.

Why would the Pac-12 do anything for a D2 conference. The RMAC schools do NOT want to play D1 lax. The NCAA would never approve it anyway since the sport has a D2 championship. Having a club team means nothing since they are not run by the school. Seriously; just, no!

(06-17-2017 01:29 AM)AZcats Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 07:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Could the PAC 12 members to lobby the NCAA to have RMAC moved up to D1 for both men and women's LAX?

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RMAC could also gain in Men's club teams St. Edwards, Fort Lewis, Metro State, Western State.

WCC could wind up sponsoring Men's LAX.
Women's LAX club teams could pop up.

Right now, there are lack of western LAX to really have a good conference. The RMAC might be the key to help jump start new western LAX conferences for the west coast and the plains.

Why would the Pac-12 do anything for a D2 conference. The RMAC schools do NOT want to play D1 lax. The NCAA would never approve it anyway since the sport has a D2 championship. Having a club team means nothing since they are not run by the school. Seriously; just, no!

Because of the lack of teams on the west coast and central plains area. It could be a start for other schools to join to start growing a west coast D1 LAX conference, and more D2 schools to add the sport. As it is, it would be a compact conference to save money than flying the teams all the way across the country. LAX do not make the money to even field a team at the D1 level in that area because of the lack of schools having the sport.

(06-16-2017 09:04 PM)ManleyPointer Wrote:  Doubt this says much about western interest in the sport. Basically, Utah got a cash gift from David Neeleman for a LAX program. Neeleman is the founder of JetBlue & lives in New England. Has a huge family with several boys who play LAX. He's LDS so he wants to give his kids a chance to attend school in the state of Utah.

One of his boys played for BYU's club team a couple years ago. Easily could have seen him working out a similar deal with us. But he decided to go with Utah for whatever reason. I really don't see BYU investing in the sport.

Wild guess: he approached BYU first, but they said that it just wasn't feasible at this time ... so he went down the road.

(06-16-2017 07:40 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 07:31 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  we shall see. ACC doesn't need autobid but Utah may value that stiff competition. I'm still expecting BC to go varsity. have you heard any rumblings about that?

Looking at a lax expansion board, BC and Florida St are frequently mentioned, but they have been mentioned for more than a decade.

If USC and Stanford start men's lax, everything in the west could go a whole different direction.

BC and VT already have womens' teams so they make sense on that level. Wake Forest is one that rarely gets mentioned but geography + school profile make them seem like a no brainer.

BC did have varsity MLAX at one point didn't they?

(06-17-2017 09:55 AM)gosports1 Wrote:  BC did have varsity MLAX at one point didn't they?

I think so...so did NC St. Really stupid for NC St to drop the sport.

(06-17-2017 02:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 01:29 AM)AZcats Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 07:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Could the PAC 12 members to lobby the NCAA to have RMAC moved up to D1 for both men and women's LAX?

...

RMAC could also gain in Men's club teams St. Edwards, Fort Lewis, Metro State, Western State.

WCC could wind up sponsoring Men's LAX.
Women's LAX club teams could pop up.

Right now, there are lack of western LAX to really have a good conference. The RMAC might be the key to help jump start new western LAX conferences for the west coast and the plains.

Why would the Pac-12 do anything for a D2 conference. The RMAC schools do NOT want to play D1 lax. The NCAA would never approve it anyway since the sport has a D2 championship. Having a club team means nothing since they are not run by the school. Seriously; just, no!

Because of the lack of teams on the west coast and central plains area. It could be a start for other schools to join to start growing a west coast D1 LAX conference, and more D2 schools to add the sport. As it is, it would be a compact conference to save money than flying the teams all the way across the country. LAX do not make the money to even field a team at the D1 level in that area because of the lack of schools having the sport.

Again, no one wants it and it would never get NCAA approval. Keep on dreaming.

(06-17-2017 11:04 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 09:55 AM)gosports1 Wrote:  BC did have varsity MLAX at one point didn't they?

I think so...so did NC St. Really stupid for NC St to drop the sport.

Yes, BC dropped lax in the early 2000's, around the time of the raid.

(06-17-2017 09:14 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 09:04 PM)ManleyPointer Wrote:  Doubt this says much about western interest in the sport. Basically, Utah got a cash gift from David Neeleman for a LAX program. Neeleman is the founder of JetBlue & lives in New England. Has a huge family with several boys who play LAX. He's LDS so he wants to give his kids a chance to attend school in the state of Utah.

One of his boys played for BYU's club team a couple years ago. Easily could have seen him working out a similar deal with us. But he decided to go with Utah for whatever reason. I really don't see BYU investing in the sport.

Wild guess: he approached BYU first, but they said that it just wasn't feasible at this time ... so he went down the road.

He's a Utah alumnus, not a BYU alumnus. Also, if you're going to sponsor an Olympic sport, do you start it at a WCC school or at a PAC school? Anytime Utah gets something the BYU defense mechanism is "we didn't want it anyway". This false narrative that BYU turned down a 15M fully-funded sports endowment is laughable.

It's almost as funny as watching the draft, seeing the typical results then saying putting kids in the NFL puts them at spiritual risk due to playing on Sunday, so BYU doesn't focus on that. Best school in the country for mental gymnastics.

You said "He's LDS so he wants to give his kids a chance to attend school in the state of Utah."

That doesn't imply being an alumni of Utah, it implies being an alumni of BYU or at least wanting to support that school. If you had said he was an alumni of Utah, I wouldn't had made that guess.

(06-18-2017 09:11 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  You said "He's LDS so he wants to give his kids a chance to attend school in the state of Utah."

That doesn't imply being an alumni of Utah, it implies being an alumni of BYU or at least wanting to support that school. If you had said he was an alumni of Utah, I wouldn't had made that guess.

I didn't say that. The BYU guy did.

(06-17-2017 11:48 AM)AZcats Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 02:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 01:29 AM)AZcats Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 07:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Could the PAC 12 members to lobby the NCAA to have RMAC moved up to D1 for both men and women's LAX?

...

RMAC could also gain in Men's club teams St. Edwards, Fort Lewis, Metro State, Western State.

WCC could wind up sponsoring Men's LAX.
Women's LAX club teams could pop up.

Right now, there are lack of western LAX to really have a good conference. The RMAC might be the key to help jump start new western LAX conferences for the west coast and the plains.

Why would the Pac-12 do anything for a D2 conference. The RMAC schools do NOT want to play D1 lax. The NCAA would never approve it anyway since the sport has a D2 championship. Having a club team means nothing since they are not run by the school. Seriously; just, no!

Because of the lack of teams on the west coast and central plains area. It could be a start for other schools to join to start growing a west coast D1 LAX conference, and more D2 schools to add the sport. As it is, it would be a compact conference to save money than flying the teams all the way across the country. LAX do not make the money to even field a team at the D1 level in that area because of the lack of schools having the sport.

Again, no one wants it and it would never get NCAA approval. Keep on dreaming.

You do not know what the NCAA would approve or not. They made exceptions before to tweak their rules.

http://www.collegecrosse.com/2017/6/18/15823796/

(06-18-2017 03:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  You do not know what the NCAA would approve or not. They made exceptions before to tweak their rules.

Again, you wrongly presume to know what I know.

(06-18-2017 03:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 11:48 AM)AZcats Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 02:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 01:29 AM)AZcats Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 07:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Could the PAC 12 members to lobby the NCAA to have RMAC moved up to D1 for both men and women's LAX?

...

RMAC could also gain in Men's club teams St. Edwards, Fort Lewis, Metro State, Western State.

WCC could wind up sponsoring Men's LAX.
Women's LAX club teams could pop up.

Right now, there are lack of western LAX to really have a good conference. The RMAC might be the key to help jump start new western LAX conferences for the west coast and the plains.

Why would the Pac-12 do anything for a D2 conference. The RMAC schools do NOT want to play D1 lax. The NCAA would never approve it anyway since the sport has a D2 championship. Having a club team means nothing since they are not run by the school. Seriously; just, no!

Because of the lack of teams on the west coast and central plains area. It could be a start for other schools to join to start growing a west coast D1 LAX conference, and more D2 schools to add the sport. As it is, it would be a compact conference to save money than flying the teams all the way across the country. LAX do not make the money to even field a team at the D1 level in that area because of the lack of schools having the sport.

Again, no one wants it and it would never get NCAA approval. Keep on dreaming.

You do not know what the NCAA would approve or not. They made exceptions before to tweak their rules.

They will not bastardize the rules to create your concocted POS leagues with midget schools from the backwater.

A high level club team can make a transition but only if the school shows sufficient support.

(06-18-2017 03:23 PM)NoDak Wrote:  http://www.collegecrosse.com/2017/6/18/15823796/

I could see the A10 sponsoring the sport. St. Joe's, UMass, Richmond, St. Bonaventure, Cleveland State, NJIT...maybe even pull Air Force out their current place.

I hear NJIT is working hard on NEC, and it's probably for any Robert Morris talk for Valpo's spot in Horizon. It might not just be a lax-thing.

Hopkins...man, I don't know how they would feel if everyone chases after Utah, including the same ACC who couldn't be bothered to return a call for the legacy program of the sport. I don't know about the Big Ten and how they would feel with the B1G getting them...maybe there's some good news for the Big East or Patriot coming?

(06-16-2017 11:09 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:  UHSAA approved lacrosse on May 4, so it is now an official HS sport in Utah.

LAX is both a boys and girls sport in Utah so imagine women's lacrosse will be coming soon as well. The men's team already hired their coach a few years back and has been recruiting like an NCAA team already. I imagine we'll see women's LAX take similar steps.

Lacrosse will officially become a sanctioned high school sponsored sport in Utah starting spring 2019. The announcement was made in May.

Lacrosse is and has been pretty big in Utah and Oregon high schools for a number of years. While not yet sanctioned, you wouldn't know it if you follow the sport. Local players are recruited by the major players on the East Coast and "recruited" to play on local or regional university club teams.

has there been any mention of when they will announce decision?

By the end of the decade I expect to see not only an A-10 league but also another one out west, possibly under the Pac 12 banner.

I really think the Big Ten and ACC need to pressure additional members of their leagues to start the sport. These leagues need content for their networks and lacrosse provides that. Look at the Big Ten:

Ohio St: hockey, lacrosse
Penn St: hockey, lacrosse
Michigan: hockey, lacrosse
Maryland: lacrosse
Rutgers: lacrosse
Mich St: hockey
Wisconsin: hockey
Minnesota: hockey

The rest of the league needs to step up.

Word has been that Hockey will follow Lacrosse. Now that Lacrosse is a go, I'm excited for the prospects of Hockey following. I'm not sure which conference Lacrosse will join, but barring apAC offering the sports, it would be nice to place both in the same conference.