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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 01:38 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
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(04-18-2017 01:24 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I cannot believe that there are 18 people that think the AAC will get $5-8 million per school. There is nothing to indicate that sort of increase. I hope I am wrong. That would be a good indication for the rest of us.

The AAC and MWC contracts are two completely different entities. Different time zones. Different TV windows. Different ratings histories. Different performance histories. As brands they are on opposite trajectories.

The MWC is in a nosedive.

Whatever you say. Still, people actually think you will get $5-8 million? Unreal. The trend is going in the opposite direction. People on this board remind me of the former CEO of Kodak, who couldn't see that the Kodak Photo was a dying product. Well, their HQs are a dilapidated mess on the side of a Highway in Massachusetts (seriously, drive by it. It is very symbolic of peoples inability or refusal to evolve).

If I ever seen a bad comparison this one here... The Kodak comparison = LOL... has to be it. 03-lmfao
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 01:59 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:38 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:24 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I cannot believe that there are 18 people that think the AAC will get $5-8 million per school. There is nothing to indicate that sort of increase. I hope I am wrong. That would be a good indication for the rest of us.

The AAC and MWC contracts are two completely different entities. Different time zones. Different TV windows. Different ratings histories. Different performance histories. As brands they are on opposite trajectories.

The MWC is in a nosedive.

Whatever you say. Still, people actually think you will get $5-8 million? Unreal. The trend is going in the opposite direction. People on this board remind me of the former CEO of Kodak, who couldn't see that the Kodak Photo was a dying product. Well, their HQs are a dilapidated mess on the side of a Highway in Massachusetts (seriously, drive by it. It is very symbolic of peoples inability or refusal to evolve).

If I ever seen a bad comparison this one here... The Kodak comparison = LOL... has to be it. 03-lmfao

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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 01:55 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:46 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:38 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  The AAC and MWC contracts are two completely different entities. Different time zones. Different TV windows. Different ratings histories. Different performance histories. As brands they are on opposite trajectories.

The MWC is in a nosedive.

Whatever you say. Still, people actually think you will get $5-8 million? Unreal. The trend is going in the opposite direction. People on this board remind me of the former CEO of Kodak, who couldn't see that the Kodak Photo was a dying product. Well, their HQs are a dilapidated mess on the side of a Highway in Massachusetts (seriously, drive by it. It is very symbolic of peoples inability or refusal to evolve).

Well you know fanhood and the g4s biggest nightmare would be the AAC getting paid what it's actually worth and being able to point to not only better performance and better ratings but a much better contractAhhhh

No, not really. I think the AAC will get a solid $3 million. This will be an indicator to the MW, which will get about $2 million. Those of you talking $5-10 million need to be prepared. Wouldn't want to see anyone do something cray cray.

The MWC wont get shhhhhhhheit because it doesn't want to play during hours that normal people watch FB.
Face it dude, the difference in exposure between the two conferences is night and day. Being in those windows has given the AAC the opportunity to develop an audience and a brand.
There are baseline numbers from other contracts that will be an indicator for different parts of the AAC contract.
MWC basketball is dead. MWC football is on life support.

Wait what? The MW doesn't want to play games when normal people watch football? Do you not read about CFB? Damn, I feel like I am communicating with a neophyte. Carry on with your silly $5 to $10 million notion. You know I will be here to say I told you so when you are crying over your $3 million a year contract.
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:55 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:46 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:38 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Whatever you say. Still, people actually think you will get $5-8 million? Unreal. The trend is going in the opposite direction. People on this board remind me of the former CEO of Kodak, who couldn't see that the Kodak Photo was a dying product. Well, their HQs are a dilapidated mess on the side of a Highway in Massachusetts (seriously, drive by it. It is very symbolic of peoples inability or refusal to evolve).

Well you know fanhood and the g4s biggest nightmare would be the AAC getting paid what it's actually worth and being able to point to not only better performance and better ratings but a much better contractAhhhh

No, not really. I think the AAC will get a solid $3 million. This will be an indicator to the MW, which will get about $2 million. Those of you talking $5-10 million need to be prepared. Wouldn't want to see anyone do something cray cray.

The MWC wont get shhhhhhhheit because it doesn't want to play during hours that normal people watch FB.
Face it dude, the difference in exposure between the two conferences is night and day. Being in those windows has given the AAC the opportunity to develop an audience and a brand.
There are baseline numbers from other contracts that will be an indicator for different parts of the AAC contract.
MWC basketball is dead. MWC football is on life support.

Wait what? The MW doesn't want to play games when normal people watch football? Do you not read about CFB? Damn, I feel like I am communicating with a neophyte. Carry on with your silly $5 to $10 million notion. You know I will be here to say I told you so when you are crying over your $3 million a year contract.

Normal people don't watch MWC games on Saturdays. There are too many options. The only people who watch those games are packing coolers to set on the empty seats next to them in MWC stadiums.

You and I both know the MWC isn't getting the TV slots the AAC has presently to prove it has any kind of viewership. That's where it needs to start. The AAC has positioned itself nicely by securing that opportunity.
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:22 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:55 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:46 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:43 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  Well you know fanhood and the g4s biggest nightmare would be the AAC getting paid what it's actually worth and being able to point to not only better performance and better ratings but a much better contractAhhhh

No, not really. I think the AAC will get a solid $3 million. This will be an indicator to the MW, which will get about $2 million. Those of you talking $5-10 million need to be prepared. Wouldn't want to see anyone do something cray cray.

The MWC wont get shhhhhhhheit because it doesn't want to play during hours that normal people watch FB.
Face it dude, the difference in exposure between the two conferences is night and day. Being in those windows has given the AAC the opportunity to develop an audience and a brand.
There are baseline numbers from other contracts that will be an indicator for different parts of the AAC contract.
MWC basketball is dead. MWC football is on life support.

Wait what? The MW doesn't want to play games when normal people watch football? Do you not read about CFB? Damn, I feel like I am communicating with a neophyte. Carry on with your silly $5 to $10 million notion. You know I will be here to say I told you so when you are crying over your $3 million a year contract.

Normal people don't watch MWC games on Saturdays. There are too many options. The only people who watch those games are packing coolers to set on the empty seats next to them in MWC stadiums.

You and I both know the MWC isn't getting the TV slots the AAC has presently to prove it has any kind of viewership. That's where it needs to start. The AAC has positioned itself nicely by securing that opportunity.

Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

At what point have I been making claims that the MW is going to take over any TV slots? I have not. I am just laughing at the crazy predictions here, and using logic to say that when the AAC sets the G5 market in a few years, the MW will get a similarly ****** payout, but certainly more ******. Enjoy. I will be here to laugh at all of us. After all, we are in this together.
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:22 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:55 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:46 PM)fanhood Wrote:  No, not really. I think the AAC will get a solid $3 million. This will be an indicator to the MW, which will get about $2 million. Those of you talking $5-10 million need to be prepared. Wouldn't want to see anyone do something cray cray.

The MWC wont get shhhhhhhheit because it doesn't want to play during hours that normal people watch FB.
Face it dude, the difference in exposure between the two conferences is night and day. Being in those windows has given the AAC the opportunity to develop an audience and a brand.
There are baseline numbers from other contracts that will be an indicator for different parts of the AAC contract.
MWC basketball is dead. MWC football is on life support.

Wait what? The MW doesn't want to play games when normal people watch football? Do you not read about CFB? Damn, I feel like I am communicating with a neophyte. Carry on with your silly $5 to $10 million notion. You know I will be here to say I told you so when you are crying over your $3 million a year contract.

Normal people don't watch MWC games on Saturdays. There are too many options. The only people who watch those games are packing coolers to set on the empty seats next to them in MWC stadiums.

You and I both know the MWC isn't getting the TV slots the AAC has presently to prove it has any kind of viewership. That's where it needs to start. The AAC has positioned itself nicely by securing that opportunity.

Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year? I'll hang up and listen.
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:22 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:55 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  The MWC wont get shhhhhhhheit because it doesn't want to play during hours that normal people watch FB.
Face it dude, the difference in exposure between the two conferences is night and day. Being in those windows has given the AAC the opportunity to develop an audience and a brand.
There are baseline numbers from other contracts that will be an indicator for different parts of the AAC contract.
MWC basketball is dead. MWC football is on life support.

Wait what? The MW doesn't want to play games when normal people watch football? Do you not read about CFB? Damn, I feel like I am communicating with a neophyte. Carry on with your silly $5 to $10 million notion. You know I will be here to say I told you so when you are crying over your $3 million a year contract.

Normal people don't watch MWC games on Saturdays. There are too many options. The only people who watch those games are packing coolers to set on the empty seats next to them in MWC stadiums.

You and I both know the MWC isn't getting the TV slots the AAC has presently to prove it has any kind of viewership. That's where it needs to start. The AAC has positioned itself nicely by securing that opportunity.

Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year?

Ha. It was the only game on, and was on ESPN. Holy ****.....I feel like I am in la la land.
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:32 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:22 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Wait what? The MW doesn't want to play games when normal people watch football? Do you not read about CFB? Damn, I feel like I am communicating with a neophyte. Carry on with your silly $5 to $10 million notion. You know I will be here to say I told you so when you are crying over your $3 million a year contract.

Normal people don't watch MWC games on Saturdays. There are too many options. The only people who watch those games are packing coolers to set on the empty seats next to them in MWC stadiums.

You and I both know the MWC isn't getting the TV slots the AAC has presently to prove it has any kind of viewership. That's where it needs to start. The AAC has positioned itself nicely by securing that opportunity.

Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year?

Ha. It was the only game on, and was on ESPN. Holy ****.....I feel like I am in la la land.
Isn't that kind of the point? The AAC secured a timeslot on ESPN with no competition and a bunch of people watched it. Seems like a recipe for success.
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:32 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:22 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Wait what? The MW doesn't want to play games when normal people watch football? Do you not read about CFB? Damn, I feel like I am communicating with a neophyte. Carry on with your silly $5 to $10 million notion. You know I will be here to say I told you so when you are crying over your $3 million a year contract.

Normal people don't watch MWC games on Saturdays. There are too many options. The only people who watch those games are packing coolers to set on the empty seats next to them in MWC stadiums.

You and I both know the MWC isn't getting the TV slots the AAC has presently to prove it has any kind of viewership. That's where it needs to start. The AAC has positioned itself nicely by securing that opportunity.

Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year?

Ha. It was the only game on, and was on ESPN. Holy ****.....I feel like I am in la la land.

Dude, they think the WAC still exists because the MWC became the WAC. The teams were never wanted by Thompson. Even Boise wasn't wanted by Thompson. Because there never was any money there.

You're trying to compare apples to Oranges. Most of the teams in this conference have been in big boy conferences. The AAC brought them together and the ratings have supported the value of the collective.

If you don't want to believe the ratings, that's on you. The value of AAC MBB and WBB, Baseball, etc, is probably worth more than MWC football because all of those entities are nationally relevant.

And those are just part of the package that the AAC has to offer.
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:35 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:32 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:22 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Normal people don't watch MWC games on Saturdays. There are too many options. The only people who watch those games are packing coolers to set on the empty seats next to them in MWC stadiums.

You and I both know the MWC isn't getting the TV slots the AAC has presently to prove it has any kind of viewership. That's where it needs to start. The AAC has positioned itself nicely by securing that opportunity.

Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year?

Ha. It was the only game on, and was on ESPN. Holy ****.....I feel like I am in la la land.
Isn't that kind of the point? The AAC secured a timeslot on ESPN with no competition and a bunch of people watched it. Seems like a recipe for success.

Not much needed to be said and you our new comrade nailed it here 04-cheers
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:35 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:32 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year?

Ha. It was the only game on, and was on ESPN. Holy ****.....I feel like I am in la la land.
Isn't that kind of the point? The AAC secured a timeslot on ESPN with no competition and a bunch of people watched it. Seems like a recipe for success.

Not much needed to be said and you our new comrade nailed it here 04-cheers

Sure. I have never argued timeslots. The poster created that argument. Just pointed to the obvious point that you will not double or triple or quadruple your TV contrac. You may be a 50% bump. Like I said....around $3 million. I'll be here to say I told you so. Enjoy
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:39 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:32 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:22 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Normal people don't watch MWC games on Saturdays. There are too many options. The only people who watch those games are packing coolers to set on the empty seats next to them in MWC stadiums.

You and I both know the MWC isn't getting the TV slots the AAC has presently to prove it has any kind of viewership. That's where it needs to start. The AAC has positioned itself nicely by securing that opportunity.

Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year?

Ha. It was the only game on, and was on ESPN. Holy ****.....I feel like I am in la la land.

Dude, they think the WAC still exists because the MWC became the WAC. The teams were never wanted by Thompson. Even Boise wasn't wanted by Thompson. Because there never was any money there.

You're trying to compare apples to Oranges. Most of the teams in this conference have been in big boy conferences. The AAC brought them together and the ratings have supported the value of the collective.

If you don't want to believe the ratings, that's on you. The value of AAC MBB and WBB, Baseball, etc, is probably worth more than MWC football because all of those entities are nationally relevant.

And those are just part of the package that the AAC has to offer.

This here ^^^ is a very good point actually... And something that needs to be brought to table discussions along with current available markets most AAC programs reside in.

Well said, BigEastHomer 04-cheers
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:39 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:32 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:22 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Normal people don't watch MWC games on Saturdays. There are too many options. The only people who watch those games are packing coolers to set on the empty seats next to them in MWC stadiums.

You and I both know the MWC isn't getting the TV slots the AAC has presently to prove it has any kind of viewership. That's where it needs to start. The AAC has positioned itself nicely by securing that opportunity.

Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year?

Ha. It was the only game on, and was on ESPN. Holy ****.....I feel like I am in la la land.

Dude, they think the WAC still exists because the MWC became the WAC. The teams were never wanted by Thompson. Even Boise wasn't wanted by Thompson. Because there never was any money there.
- Point 1
You're trying to compare apples to Oranges. Most of the teams in this conference have been in big boy conferences. The AAC brought them together and the ratings have supported the value of the collective. - Point 2

If you don't want to believe the ratings, that's on you. The value of AAC MBB and WBB, Baseball, etc, is probably worth more than MWC football because all of those entities are nationally relevant. - Point 3

And those are just part of the package that the AAC has to offer.

1. The AAC is CUSA (Tulane, SMU, Houston, Memphis, Tulsa, Cincinnati, UCF, East Carolina), one of the worst programs in CFB history that was kicked out of the Big East (Temple), two teams that were cast aside in realignment, have almost zero football history, and had no business being in the BCS anyway (USF and UCONN), plus Navy. Furthermore, UCF and Temple also have the distinction of recently being in the MAC.

2. Big Boy conferences? Really? Like USF and UCONN being in the Big East? See point 1. Like Temple being in the Big East? See point 1. Like Houston, SMU, being in the Southwest Conference? Really? Well, if we want to use history, lets talk about the MW being the best basketball conference in the country five years ago, and the WAC being the original Thursday night show case........but no, lets not do that. Because that is stupid and irrelevant.

3. If you think the value of MBB, WBB and Baseball is close to the value of the MW, I want to do business with you, because I will virtually rob you of everything you are worth.

On that note, back to making money, that I actually see. I will tell you what.....I will not contribute on any thread regarding TV contracts again. I will just be here to laugh at you in a few years. Deal?
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:58 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:39 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:32 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
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(04-18-2017 02:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Dude, normal people don't watch the AAC either. That is the point. Normal people don't know who is in the AAC or the MWC. Normal people still think the WAC exists. If you think normal people can name six teams in the AAC, you are ******* nuts.

AAC is doing well. Nice conference. Good teams. Good coaches. Very competitive.....and you will be rewarded by a $3 million dollar TV contract that Aresco takes as an extension. Enjoy. I will be here to say I told you so.

The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year?

Ha. It was the only game on, and was on ESPN. Holy ****.....I feel like I am in la la land.

Dude, they think the WAC still exists because the MWC became the WAC. The teams were never wanted by Thompson. Even Boise wasn't wanted by Thompson. Because there never was any money there.
- Point 1
You're trying to compare apples to Oranges. Most of the teams in this conference have been in big boy conferences. The AAC brought them together and the ratings have supported the value of the collective. - Point 2

If you don't want to believe the ratings, that's on you. The value of AAC MBB and WBB, Baseball, etc, is probably worth more than MWC football because all of those entities are nationally relevant. - Point 3

And those are just part of the package that the AAC has to offer.

On that note, back to making money, that I actually see. I will tell you what.....I will not contribute on any thread regarding TV contracts again. I will just be here to laugh at you in a few years. Deal?
Speaking of robbing people, that is an incredibly good deal. I accept, on behalf of everyone else. See you in a few years.
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
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(04-18-2017 01:46 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
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(04-18-2017 01:38 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Whatever you say. Still, people actually think you will get $5-8 million? Unreal. The trend is going in the opposite direction. People on this board remind me of the former CEO of Kodak, who couldn't see that the Kodak Photo was a dying product. Well, their HQs are a dilapidated mess on the side of a Highway in Massachusetts (seriously, drive by it. It is very symbolic of peoples inability or refusal to evolve).

Well you know fanhood and the g4s biggest nightmare would be the AAC getting paid what it's actually worth and being able to point to not only better performance and better ratings but a much better contractAhhhh

No, not really. I think the AAC will get a solid $3 million. This will be an indicator to the MW, which will get about $2 million. Those of you talking $5-10 million need to be prepared. Wouldn't want to see anyone do something cray cray.

The MWC wont get shhhhhhhheit because it doesn't want to play during hours that normal people watch FB.
Face it dude, the difference in exposure between the two conferences is night and day. Being in those windows has given the AAC the opportunity to develop an audience and a brand.
There are baseline numbers from other contracts that will be an indicator for different parts of the AAC contract.
MWC basketball is dead. MWC football is on life support.

Wait what? The MW doesn't want to play games when normal people watch football? Do you not read about CFB? Damn, I feel like I am communicating with a neophyte. Carry on with your silly $5 to $10 million notion. You know I will be here to say I told you so when you are crying over your $3 million a year contract.


lol....Thats ok. Just remember you'll have to put your MW digital telecast into a small window so you can post on our board. 04-cheers
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 01:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 01:38 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
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(04-18-2017 01:24 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I cannot believe that there are 18 people that think the AAC will get $5-8 million per school. There is nothing to indicate that sort of increase. I hope I am wrong. That would be a good indication for the rest of us.

The AAC and MWC contracts are two completely different entities. Different time zones. Different TV windows. Different ratings histories. Different performance histories. As brands they are on opposite trajectories.

The MWC is in a nosedive.

Whatever you say. Still, people actually think you will get $5-8 million? Unreal. The trend is going in the opposite direction. People on this board remind me of the former CEO of Kodak, who couldn't see that the Kodak Photo was a dying product. Well, their HQs are a dilapidated mess on the side of a Highway in Massachusetts (seriously, drive by it. It is very symbolic of peoples inability or refusal to evolve).

The AAC and MWC contracts are two completely different entities. - No ****

Different time zones. - Yup, and that works in the MWs favor.

Different TV windows. - Agreed. See above. Look at ratings in the West. They are good.

Different ratings histories. - You mean Temple, Tulsa, USF, and Memphis drive ratings?

Different performance histories. - Not really. Eight teams of the AAC are former CUSA. One was so bad it was kicked out of a BCS conference. Another two (USF and UCONN) were left behind for many reasons, and another (Navy) is, well Navy.

As brands they are on opposite trajectories. - Not sure what "brands" you are referencing. Maybe Navy has a "brand." Maybe UCONN in basketball. Not sure who else.

The MWC is in a nosedive. - Intense words.

Yeah, I knew it wouldn't take much to get you wild eyed and talking crazy. Lol, and yes Memphis, Temple and USF pull in ratings. Heck Memphis bball ratings basically accounted for the entire value of the cusa previous contract. If not for the mwc bending over and taking some Bronco kicks up the rear the mwc wouldn't even exist now. If you'd like to take a little time and research the TV and power ratings of the AAC vs mwc instead of pestering us with that mwc jibber jabber you may not seem so crazy07-coffee3
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
(04-18-2017 02:47 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:35 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:32 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  The AAC Championship game was more watched than the Pac12 Championship game. How many MWC games gained a greater audience than Houston-Cincinnati last year?

Ha. It was the only game on, and was on ESPN. Holy ****.....I feel like I am in la la land.
Isn't that kind of the point? The AAC secured a timeslot on ESPN with no competition and a bunch of people watched it. Seems like a recipe for success.

Not much needed to be said and you our new comrade nailed it here 04-cheers

Sure. I have never argued timeslots. The poster created that argument. Just pointed to the obvious point that you will not double or triple or quadruple your TV contrac. You may be a 50% bump. Like I said....around $3 million. I'll be here to say I told you so. Enjoy

You seem to ignore what the AAC brings to the table... markets, football basketball baseball successes, programs histories, facility continued improvements etc... As much as you probably don't want to admit but the AAC does find itself in a very good position now negotiate finally.

Your 3 million garbage offer theory is just that, garbage.
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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
I think $3M is more realistic than $12M. No doubt about it. All a competitor has to do is throw another low ball number at us that's barely better than what we get now. Thats when we find out what ESPN thinks we are worth. That's exactly how I expect this to work out.

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RE: Speculation: With WSU n the fold what's the objective value of next AAC TV contract?
A MWC fan over on the AAC board is so G4 it hurts.
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<$3mil

Espn doesnt have to pony up. So they wont.
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