(03-07-2017 01:38 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 10:52 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 08:41 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 01:33 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Big 12 adds Houston and Cincy

AAC backfills with NIU and Rice

SBC and CUSA reshuffle into two equal conferences

New SBC (12 small town powers)
East: GS, App, JMU, Marshall, Coastal, MTSU
West: StAte, UL, La Tech, USM, WKU, Troy

New CUSA (12 big city schools)
East: ODU, GAST, UNCC, FIU, FAU, UAB
West: USA, TXST, UNT, UTSA, UTEP, NMSU

1. The day Marshall, WKU and MT is in a conference with Coastal (9K stadium) is the day we should just make are way back to the SoCon and OVC
2. The day UTEP and NMSU are in the same conference is the day the NCAA forces it. UTEP was in the WAC from 1967-2005 (38 YEARS) and kept NMSU out despite El Paso and Las Cruces only 45 miles apart.

38,000 Seats, 100 Teeth, and 5 Last Names. Football Saturdays in Huntington, WV

POI: We are expanding the stadium to over 21,000

Yea. I love when people mention our "9k seat stadium" and conveniently leave out the fact that next week we have a ground breaking ceremony to expand it to over 21k.

I guess people just spew whatever fits their narrative.

I don't think the question with Coastal is whether they can get their stadium to capacity, the question is can it be filled. With Clemson and USC entrenched pretty much across the state, can Coastal get an additional 11,000 fans to come six Saturday's a year? Based on the way Myrtle Beach looks in the off-season, it's hard to tell if the population there will do it.

Personally, I would like to see Myrtle Beach/Horry County invest in attracting permanent businesses there rather than almost exclusively be an area reliant on tourism.

(03-07-2017 02:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 01:38 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 10:52 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 08:41 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 01:33 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Big 12 adds Houston and Cincy

AAC backfills with NIU and Rice

SBC and CUSA reshuffle into two equal conferences

New SBC (12 small town powers)
East: GS, App, JMU, Marshall, Coastal, MTSU
West: StAte, UL, La Tech, USM, WKU, Troy

New CUSA (12 big city schools)
East: ODU, GAST, UNCC, FIU, FAU, UAB
West: USA, TXST, UNT, UTSA, UTEP, NMSU

1. The day Marshall, WKU and MT is in a conference with Coastal (9K stadium) is the day we should just make are way back to the SoCon and OVC
2. The day UTEP and NMSU are in the same conference is the day the NCAA forces it. UTEP was in the WAC from 1967-2005 (38 YEARS) and kept NMSU out despite El Paso and Las Cruces only 45 miles apart.

38,000 Seats, 100 Teeth, and 5 Last Names. Football Saturdays in Huntington, WV

POI: We are expanding the stadium to over 21,000

Yea. I love when people mention our "9k seat stadium" and conveniently leave out the fact that next week we have a ground breaking ceremony to expand it to over 21k.

I guess people just spew whatever fits their narrative.

I don't think the question with Coastal is whether they can get their stadium to capacity, the question is can it be filled. With Clemson and USC entrenched pretty much across the state, can Coastal get an additional 11,000 fans to come six Saturday's a year? Based on the way Myrtle Beach looks in the off-season, it's hard to tell if the population there will do it.

Personally, I would like to see Myrtle Beach/Horry County invest in attracting permanent businesses there rather than almost exclusively be an area reliant on tourism.

Have you been there often during the offseason? I'm in and out of the area quite a bit during the offseason and traffic looks pretty heavy to me. I realize that Memorial Day to Labor Day is a whole different deal but it's much more of a year round area now. I saw a lot of retirees at the App/Coastal BB game so I can see where that market will be tapped going forward. New housing developments are popping up on on 544, 707, and other roads west of 17.

(02-23-2017 12:31 PM)stAte3 Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 12:10 PM)Artemis Silver Bow Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 11:36 AM)Usajags Wrote:  The AD at Texas has made a statement that the Big XII will expand by 2018. Let the rumors begin all over again.

I know how much everyone wanted another expansion thread.

IN
Tulsa
Houston

Maybe
Boise State
BYU

No way Tulsa is in. Their stadium is so small compared to others and they don't draw well.

I dont think any B12 schools consider tulsa or cincy or boise a peer. most likely add in my view would be houston, a 40,000+ school that has recently found some cash to upgrade with and already has a history with nearly all the B12 schools. byu would be the next logical big dog out there to get.

(03-07-2017 02:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 01:38 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 10:52 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 08:41 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 01:33 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Big 12 adds Houston and Cincy

AAC backfills with NIU and Rice

SBC and CUSA reshuffle into two equal conferences

New SBC (12 small town powers)
East: GS, App, JMU, Marshall, Coastal, MTSU
West: StAte, UL, La Tech, USM, WKU, Troy

New CUSA (12 big city schools)
East: ODU, GAST, UNCC, FIU, FAU, UAB
West: USA, TXST, UNT, UTSA, UTEP, NMSU

1. The day Marshall, WKU and MT is in a conference with Coastal (9K stadium) is the day we should just make are way back to the SoCon and OVC
2. The day UTEP and NMSU are in the same conference is the day the NCAA forces it. UTEP was in the WAC from 1967-2005 (38 YEARS) and kept NMSU out despite El Paso and Las Cruces only 45 miles apart.

38,000 Seats, 100 Teeth, and 5 Last Names. Football Saturdays in Huntington, WV

POI: We are expanding the stadium to over 21,000

Yea. I love when people mention our "9k seat stadium" and conveniently leave out the fact that next week we have a ground breaking ceremony to expand it to over 21k.

I guess people just spew whatever fits their narrative.

I don't think the question with Coastal is whether they can get their stadium to capacity, the question is can it be filled. With Clemson and USC entrenched pretty much across the state, can Coastal get an additional 11,000 fans to come six Saturday's a year? Based on the way Myrtle Beach looks in the off-season, it's hard to tell if the population there will do it.

Personally, I would like to see Myrtle Beach/Horry County invest in attracting permanent businesses there rather than almost exclusively be an area reliant on tourism.

Clemson is a four hour drive, South Carolina is a two hour drive.
The average Joe fan with no direct tie to one of the schools is the market.

Within 40 miles of Conway, SC there are 408,000 people and they are all closer to Coastal than the Gamecocks and Tigers. That same radius of Jonesboro the population is 245,000 people.

Coastal can build a local driven program. Will they? That's the great unknown but they have ample population in an area where local TV can't dash over to the local P5 and get interviews and practice video on a regular basis. Work the local media and Coastal will be fine.

(03-08-2017 09:31 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 02:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 01:38 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 10:52 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 08:41 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  1. The day Marshall, WKU and MT is in a conference with Coastal (9K stadium) is the day we should just make are way back to the SoCon and OVC
2. The day UTEP and NMSU are in the same conference is the day the NCAA forces it. UTEP was in the WAC from 1967-2005 (38 YEARS) and kept NMSU out despite El Paso and Las Cruces only 45 miles apart.

38,000 Seats, 100 Teeth, and 5 Last Names. Football Saturdays in Huntington, WV

POI: We are expanding the stadium to over 21,000

Yea. I love when people mention our "9k seat stadium" and conveniently leave out the fact that next week we have a ground breaking ceremony to expand it to over 21k.

I guess people just spew whatever fits their narrative.

I don't think the question with Coastal is whether they can get their stadium to capacity, the question is can it be filled. With Clemson and USC entrenched pretty much across the state, can Coastal get an additional 11,000 fans to come six Saturday's a year? Based on the way Myrtle Beach looks in the off-season, it's hard to tell if the population there will do it.

Personally, I would like to see Myrtle Beach/Horry County invest in attracting permanent businesses there rather than almost exclusively be an area reliant on tourism.

Clemson is a four hour drive, South Carolina is a two hour drive.
The average Joe fan with no direct tie to one of the schools is the market.

Within 40 miles of Conway, SC there are 408,000 people and they are all closer to Coastal than the Gamecocks and Tigers. That same radius of Jonesboro the population is 245,000 people.

Coastal can build a local driven program. Will they? That's the great unknown but they have ample population in an area where local TV can't dash over to the local P5 and get interviews and practice video on a regular basis. Work the local media and Coastal will be fine.

Coastal is dealing with a lot of the same issues that GS has had to deal with: competing with state ACC and SEC schools for fans. As any GS fan can tell you, proximity and population have nothing to do with it. We as G5 schools have to carve out a niche audience of alums and locals which takes a long time to do. That's why GS and App don't have attendance problems compared to Ga State and USA. As far as growing their fanbase and getting them excited, Coastal winning a baseball championship was a homerun (no pun intended) and now they need to channel that momentum into football in order to be successful. It all comes down to the product you put on the field and the atmosphere you create at games. That's what drives ticket sales and fills stadiums. Never in the history of college football has an SEC fan said "hmm I'm closer to this school so I'm going to cheer for them instead now." It doesn't work like that.

(03-08-2017 10:06 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 09:31 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 02:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 01:38 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 10:52 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  38,000 Seats, 100 Teeth, and 5 Last Names. Football Saturdays in Huntington, WV

POI: We are expanding the stadium to over 21,000

Yea. I love when people mention our "9k seat stadium" and conveniently leave out the fact that next week we have a ground breaking ceremony to expand it to over 21k.

I guess people just spew whatever fits their narrative.

I don't think the question with Coastal is whether they can get their stadium to capacity, the question is can it be filled. With Clemson and USC entrenched pretty much across the state, can Coastal get an additional 11,000 fans to come six Saturday's a year? Based on the way Myrtle Beach looks in the off-season, it's hard to tell if the population there will do it.

Personally, I would like to see Myrtle Beach/Horry County invest in attracting permanent businesses there rather than almost exclusively be an area reliant on tourism.

Clemson is a four hour drive, South Carolina is a two hour drive.
The average Joe fan with no direct tie to one of the schools is the market.

Within 40 miles of Conway, SC there are 408,000 people and they are all closer to Coastal than the Gamecocks and Tigers. That same radius of Jonesboro the population is 245,000 people.

Coastal can build a local driven program. Will they? That's the great unknown but they have ample population in an area where local TV can't dash over to the local P5 and get interviews and practice video on a regular basis. Work the local media and Coastal will be fine.

Coastal is dealing with a lot of the same issues that GS has had to deal with: competing with state ACC and SEC schools for fans. As any GS fan can tell you, proximity and population have nothing to do with it. We as G5 schools have to carve out a niche audience of alums and locals which takes a long time to do. That's why GS and App don't have attendance problems compared to Ga State and USA. As far as growing their fanbase and getting them excited, Coastal winning a baseball championship was a homerun (no pun intended) and now they need to channel that momentum into football in order to be successful. It all comes down to the product you put on the field and the atmosphere you create at games. That's what drives ticket sales and fills stadiums. Never in the history of college football has an SEC fan said "hmm I'm closer to this school so I'm going to cheer for them instead now." It doesn't work like that.

Walmart fans will go see a show. Convince them there is a nice reasonably priced day of tailgating and visiting and a decent game to watch, they can be brought in.

AState attendance began growing and the season ticket base started growing before we were fielding good teams.

We spent years marketing tailgating, socializing and reasonably priced entertainment. That started paying off.