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RE: OT: Liberty to FBS
Set long contracts with NMSU and UMass. Chase the App, GSU, GS, Charlotte, and ODUs of the regional area. Add a couple body bag games and you are good to go.

I am thinking the only way they ever get a bowl is if there aren't enough spots filled. Maybe they get lucky and get a BYU deal but I think it'll be more like UMass and NMSU.

Is this for all sports or only football?
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RE: OT: Liberty to FBS
(02-16-2017 04:50 PM)slycat Wrote:  Set long contracts with NMSU and UMass. Chase the App, GSU, GS, Charlotte, and ODUs of the regional area. Add a couple body bag games and you are good to go.

I am thinking the only way they ever get a bowl is if there aren't enough spots filled. Maybe they get lucky and get a BYU deal but I think it'll be more like UMass and NMSU.

Is this for all sports or only football?
The Football Bowl Subdivision is only for football.

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RE: OT: Liberty to FBS
(02-16-2017 04:26 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I do not see how a waiver was granted.Thought is was a firm RULE you had to have a conference invite.Puzzled.

BYU, Army, UMass, NMSU beginning in 2018 will all be Indy's. There ain't a judge in America that will uphold that NCAA rule.
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RE: OT: Liberty to FBS
(02-16-2017 04:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 04:50 PM)slycat Wrote:  Set long contracts with NMSU and UMass. Chase the App, GSU, GS, Charlotte, and ODUs of the regional area. Add a couple body bag games and you are good to go.

I am thinking the only way they ever get a bowl is if there aren't enough spots filled. Maybe they get lucky and get a BYU deal but I think it'll be more like UMass and NMSU.

Is this for all sports or only football?
The Football Bowl Subdivision is only for football.

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I get that but will their current conference keep their other sports or tell them to get the heck out?
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RE: OT: Liberty to FBS
(02-16-2017 04:58 PM)slycat Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 04:51 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 04:50 PM)slycat Wrote:  Set long contracts with NMSU and UMass. Chase the App, GSU, GS, Charlotte, and ODUs of the regional area. Add a couple body bag games and you are good to go.

I am thinking the only way they ever get a bowl is if there aren't enough spots filled. Maybe they get lucky and get a BYU deal but I think it'll be more like UMass and NMSU.

Is this for all sports or only football?
The Football Bowl Subdivision is only for football.

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I get that but will their current conference keep their other sports or tell them to get the heck out?

They are still part of the Big South and will be. Don't forget the mutual relationship with that other conference that escapes my memory right now.
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(02-16-2017 04:45 PM)I AM an Eagle! Wrote:  Kind of surprising. I'm very pleased with the addition of Coastal over Liberty. Now let's find UTA and Little Rock new homes and have two SBC schools add soccer so Hartwick and Howard can be trimmed and the conference will be cleeeeaaaannnn.

Nah. We need UTA and Little Rock.
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Cue Nodak explaining how this leads to the Big Sky moving up to FBS.
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RE: OT: Liberty to FBS
(02-16-2017 04:52 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 04:26 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I do not see how a waiver was granted.Thought is was a firm RULE you had to have a conference invite.Puzzled.

BYU, Army, UMass, NMSU beginning in 2018 will all be Indy's. There ain't a judge in America that will uphold that NCAA rule.

What if you tell the judge in the 9th circuit they're a christian organization...05-stirthepot

Congrats to Liberty, they aren't settling. App better get ready for another opponent on the recruiting trail.
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The Flamers were Coastal's biggest rival when we were slumming in the Small South. 03-drunk

Can someone tell me what happened between Liberty and the Sun Belt in the past? It's mentioned on ESPN.com right now that the Flamers tried "unsuccessfully" to join our conference before...
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(02-16-2017 05:15 PM)El Chanto Wrote:  Can someone tell me what happened between Liberty and the Sun Belt in the past? It's mentioned on ESPN.com right now that the Flamers tried "unsuccessfully" to join our conference before...

The story seems to go that they wanted in, and even offered up some extra cash to join, but were rejected due to some combination of political baggage that doesn't sit well with a lot of university presidents and academic baggage that doesn't sit well with a lot of folks in higher education.

EDIT: Oh, and there's the alternative idea that they were rejected because of bias against conservative Christians, so if you'd rather look at it that way, you can.
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Falwell Jr flew his jet to every Sun Belt town and wined and dined with the suits. In the end, "they didn't have the votes" according to our lord and savior Karl Benson. Reasons were their baggage and there was a concern with how they would recruit at an FBS level. Also, the perception of being an online diploma mill hurt them as university presidents aren't going to like that.
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RE: OT: Liberty to FBS
(02-16-2017 05:07 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 04:52 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 04:26 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I do not see how a waiver was granted.Thought is was a firm RULE you had to have a conference invite.Puzzled.

BYU, Army, UMass, NMSU beginning in 2018 will all be Indy's. There ain't a judge in America that will uphold that NCAA rule.

What if you tell the judge in the 9th circuit they're a christian organization...05-stirthepot

Congrats to Liberty, they aren't settling. App better get ready for another opponent on the recruiting trail.

If there is a judge in America that would rule for the NCAA they probably will come from that bunch. 03-banghead But it'll only be a minor set back until Liberty appeals to the Supreme Court. 03-yes
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(02-16-2017 05:22 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 05:15 PM)El Chanto Wrote:  Can someone tell me what happened between Liberty and the Sun Belt in the past? It's mentioned on ESPN.com right now that the Flamers tried "unsuccessfully" to join our conference before...



EDIT: Oh, and there's the alternative idea that they were rejected because of bias against conservative Christians, so if you'd rather look at it that way, you can.

We tried to wear crosses on our helmet and our town is known as "The City of Churches". Our team's slogan has been Faith. Family. Fun.

Our bias against conservative Christians is strange no?
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RE: OT: Liberty to FBS
Question: Since the NCAA is willing to cave on the rule about needing an invite from a conference, does that make rules about FCS teams creating new conference in FBS pretty much moot?
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RE: OT: Liberty to FBS
Which school will be the next to announce their intent to move from FCS to FBS?
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(02-16-2017 05:32 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Question: Since the NCAA is willing to cave on the rule about needing an invite from a conference, does that make rules about FCS teams creating new conference in FBS pretty much moot?

I'm sure an FCS conference could probably pull that off but good luck to them in getting any CFP dollars.

Congrats to Liberty.
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App won't be scheduling them. Anti-neanderthal policy.
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GAMECOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(02-16-2017 05:32 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Which school will be the next to announce their intent to move from FCS to FBS?

Jacksonville State, Kennesaw State, EKU, Montana, NDSU, you name it. Apparently anyone can be FBS now if you just believe hard enough...
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(02-16-2017 05:37 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  App won't be scheduling them. Anti-neanderthal policy.

It entertains me that there are two ways to interpret this, and I'm not sure which one you meant.
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