(02-12-2017 10:34 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  GS's heat on their AD must be getting warmer. DG is a magician.

This should be putting the heat on all our AD's for these types of home and home games. For what it's worth, I think GaSo may be the only school that hasn't had a P5 school come to their house. Well, no, GaSt hasn't either IIRC.

(02-12-2017 11:09 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 10:34 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  GS's heat on their AD must be getting warmer. DG is a magician.

This should be putting the heat on all our AD's for these types of home and home games. For what it's worth, I think GaSo may be the only school that hasn't had a P5 school come to their house. Well, no, GaSt hasn't either IIRC.

Georgia State has Vandy and UNC scheduled to travel to Atlanta

(02-12-2017 10:49 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 10:19 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 12:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 10:31 PM)trapdrawApp Wrote:  I've been sitting on this for a couple of months now. Glad it's out.

Yep. This has been bubbling for a while now. While I'm not particularly fond of the Tar Babies and it will honestly nauseate me to see that much light blue in Boone, the positive is this makes it awfully hard for NC State and Duke not to make the trip to Boone. Doug Gillin is gettin it done!

With stadium expansion on the horizon, and Miami, Wake, and UNC at home, this should make scheduling at lot easier. I now see no reason why we can't get any of the in state P5's and regional P5's in Boone moving forward. Next on my wish list in order, NC State, Duke, WVU, GT, Vandy, and Kentucky. Exciting times in Boone. The naysayers are getting less and less every year. GO APP!!

I can think of a reason: They flat out say - No chance. We are very familiar with this reason.

Wow. I did not think of that.

The point is there are now no limitations in state or regionally. Precedents has been set.

This is a serious question, because I don't know the answer. Has Arkansas ever played at State?

(02-12-2017 11:33 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 10:49 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 10:19 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 12:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 10:31 PM)trapdrawApp Wrote:  I've been sitting on this for a couple of months now. Glad it's out.

Yep. This has been bubbling for a while now. While I'm not particularly fond of the Tar Babies and it will honestly nauseate me to see that much light blue in Boone, the positive is this makes it awfully hard for NC State and Duke not to make the trip to Boone. Doug Gillin is gettin it done!

With stadium expansion on the horizon, and Miami, Wake, and UNC at home, this should make scheduling at lot easier. I now see no reason why we can't get any of the in state P5's and regional P5's in Boone moving forward. Next on my wish list in order, NC State, Duke, WVU, GT, Vandy, and Kentucky. Exciting times in Boone. The naysayers are getting less and less every year. GO APP!!

I can think of a reason: They flat out say - No chance. We are very familiar with this reason.

Wow. I did not think of that.

The point is there are now no limitations in state or regionally. Precedents has been set.

This is a serious question, because I don't know the answer. Has Arkansas ever played at State?

Arkansas will not play ANY in-state team in ANY sport.

They have only played Arkansas State in men's basketball one time in the NIT and won in overtime after trailing by double-digits. Their women's basketball team played Arkansas State in the WNIT and lost.

They had an opportunity to play a good UALR team in the men's NIT several years back but declined the invitation because their team "was exhausted".

Which SB schools have had the "flagship" university play at home?

(02-12-2017 10:49 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I can think of a reason: They flat out say - No chance. We are very familiar with this reason.

Lol, always constructive.

It isn't as simple as "well we got A so we should definitely get B because A and B are similar".

Every school is unique because every AD has their own scheduling concerns - budget, home v away balance, future scheduling availability, personal and fan base bias, etc.

This App/UNC series is reportedly a H&H plus a 3rd money game (presumably in Chapel Hill). I would've been a little salty about a 2 for 1 but this is a great deal. Awesome job by the App ADs office to get this done.

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(02-12-2017 11:39 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Every school is unique because every AD has their own scheduling concerns - budget, home v away balance, future scheduling availability, personal and fan base bias, etc.

Arkansas does not base the decisions on year-to-year scheduling concerns. They have a long-standing policy of never playing in-state schools in anything no matter what.

Their baseball coaches have complained about this policy because it makes it very difficult to schedule mid-week games. They have been forced to play teams that HURT THEIR RPI. Playing UCA, UALR, and A-State would have HELPED THEIR TEAM'S RPI in some years but they still chose to play teams that would harm it. In fact, it may very well ahve cost them a post-season slot a few years back.

(02-12-2017 11:43 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:39 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Every school is unique because every AD has their own scheduling concerns - budget, home v away balance, future scheduling availability, personal and fan base bias, etc.

Arkansas does not base the decisions on year-to-year scheduling concerns. They have a long-standing policy of never playing in-state schools in anything no matter what.

Their baseball coaches have complained about this policy because it makes it very difficult to schedule mid-week games. They have been forced to play teams that HURT THEIR RPI. Playing UCA, UALR, and A-State would have HELPED THEIR TEAM'S RPI in some years but they still chose to play teams that would harm it. In fact, it may very well ahve cost them a post-season slot a few years back.

What about neighboring state P5's? Have you been able to attract them?

(02-12-2017 11:47 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:43 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:39 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Every school is unique because every AD has their own scheduling concerns - budget, home v away balance, future scheduling availability, personal and fan base bias, etc.

Arkansas does not base the decisions on year-to-year scheduling concerns. They have a long-standing policy of never playing in-state schools in anything no matter what.

Their baseball coaches have complained about this policy because it makes it very difficult to schedule mid-week games. They have been forced to play teams that HURT THEIR RPI. Playing UCA, UALR, and A-State would have HELPED THEIR TEAM'S RPI in some years but they still chose to play teams that would harm it. In fact, it may very well ahve cost them a post-season slot a few years back.

What about neighboring state P5's? Have you been able to attract them?

Missouri is about the extent of neighboring states recently.

Ole Miss came to Jonesboro in 2001.

(02-12-2017 11:51 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:47 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:43 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:39 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Every school is unique because every AD has their own scheduling concerns - budget, home v away balance, future scheduling availability, personal and fan base bias, etc.

Arkansas does not base the decisions on year-to-year scheduling concerns. They have a long-standing policy of never playing in-state schools in anything no matter what.

Their baseball coaches have complained about this policy because it makes it very difficult to schedule mid-week games. They have been forced to play teams that HURT THEIR RPI. Playing UCA, UALR, and A-State would have HELPED THEIR TEAM'S RPI in some years but they still chose to play teams that would harm it. In fact, it may very well ahve cost them a post-season slot a few years back.

What about neighboring state P5's? Have you been able to attract them?

Missouri is about the extent of neighboring states recently.

Ole Miss came to Jonesboro in 2001.

Wow. Arkansas has no excuse with peers coming to Jonesboro.

shocked if we get a h/h with the Heels, Carolina has always had a policy of not playing in state teams not from the ACC, it took 20 years and the State getting involved to get the heels to travel to ECU, wonder how our AD pulled this off so quickly. If it happens that wonderful, but something had to happen behind the scenes to get them to change their attitude, curious to know what it is. Anyway, our AD and his staff strikes again, this guy really knows what he is doing.

(02-12-2017 11:54 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:51 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:47 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:43 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:39 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Every school is unique because every AD has their own scheduling concerns - budget, home v away balance, future scheduling availability, personal and fan base bias, etc.

Arkansas does not base the decisions on year-to-year scheduling concerns. They have a long-standing policy of never playing in-state schools in anything no matter what.

Their baseball coaches have complained about this policy because it makes it very difficult to schedule mid-week games. They have been forced to play teams that HURT THEIR RPI. Playing UCA, UALR, and A-State would have HELPED THEIR TEAM'S RPI in some years but they still chose to play teams that would harm it. In fact, it may very well ahve cost them a post-season slot a few years back.

What about neighboring state P5's? Have you been able to attract them?

Missouri is about the extent of neighboring states recently.

Ole Miss came to Jonesboro in 2001.

Wow. Arkansas has no excuse with peers coming to Jonesboro.

Oh, they and their fans have plenty of excuses.

(02-12-2017 11:39 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 10:49 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I can think of a reason: They flat out say - No chance. We are very familiar with this reason.

I would've been a little salty about a 2 for 1 but this is a great deal. Awesome job by the App ADs office to get this done.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

You can't be serious. A 2 for 1 with UNC-CHeat would have been a huge coup for ANY 3rd year in state FBS team. One with a $900 payout for that 2nd game in Orange County is extraordinary. In comparison ECU played in CH 9 times before the Tar Babies traveled to Greenville and have played 13 times in CH to only 4 in Greenville. What DG has pulled off is remarkable.

(02-12-2017 12:19 PM)moehler Wrote:  shocked if we get a h/h with the Heels, Carolina has always had a policy of not playing in state teams not from the ACC, it took 20 years and the State getting involved to get the heels to travel to ECU, wonder how our AD pulled this off so quickly. If it happens that wonderful, but something had to happen behind the scenes to get them to change their attitude, curious to know what it is. Anyway, our AD and his staff strikes again, this guy really knows what he is doing.

The key point being "knows what he is doing." I've been following App Athletics since the mid 70's and Gillin is the first AD we've had who actually knows the business of college athletics. He will be a P5 conference commissioner one day.

(02-12-2017 12:19 PM)moehler Wrote:  shocked if we get a h/h with the Heels, Carolina has always had a policy of not playing in state teams not from the ACC, it took 20 years and the State government getting involved to get the Heels to travel to ECU. If it happens, man that wonderful, but something had to happen behind the scenes to get them to change their attitude, curious to know what it is. Anyway, our AD and his staff strike again, man, this guy really knows what he is doing.

Besides us in very recent history, ECU has been the only non-ACC FBS school in the State so there isn't much of a sample size there. It took all the ACC schools, especially NCSU and UNC, awhile to play ECU, but for the past decade one of those two have been playing them every year. UNC has actually come to Boone before in basketball, which is far more than NCSU has ever done. My guess is it will take more to get NCSU to Boone but UNC is the far superior athletic dept. so who cares.

(02-12-2017 12:19 PM)moehler Wrote:  shocked if we get a h/h with the Heels, Carolina has always had a policy of not playing in state teams not from the ACC, it took 20 years and the State getting involved to get the heels to travel to ECU, wonder how our AD pulled this off so quickly. If it happens that wonderful, but something had to happen behind the scenes to get them to change their attitude, curious to know what it is. Anyway, our AD and his staff strikes again, this guy really knows what he is doing.

We should all give thanks to ECU! They have obviously changed the attitudes of UNC and State about playing at in state G5's. Gillin is working his magic, but it would not be possible without ECU. They have paved the way.

(02-12-2017 12:25 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:39 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 10:49 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I can think of a reason: They flat out say - No chance. We are very familiar with this reason.

I would've been a little salty about a 2 for 1 but this is a great deal. Awesome job by the App ADs office to get this done.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

You can't be serious. A 2 for 1 with UNC-CHeat would have been a huge coup for ANY 3rd year in state FBS team. One with a $900 payout for that 2nd game in Orange County is extraordinary. In comparison ECU played in CH 9 times before the Tar Babies traveled to Greenville and have played 13 times in CH to only 4 in Greenville. What DG has pulled off is remarkable.

I didn't think App's deal with ECU (a G5) was that great. This one is a very good deal. All thumbs up from here. Congrats to App State.

(02-12-2017 11:39 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 10:49 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I can think of a reason: They flat out say - No chance. We are very familiar with this reason.

Lol, always constructive.

It isn't as simple as "well we got A so we should definitely get B because A and B are similar".

Every school is unique because every AD has their own scheduling concerns - budget, home v away balance, future scheduling availability, personal and fan base bias, etc.

This App/UNC series is reportedly a H&H plus a 3rd money game (presumably in Chapel Hill). I would've been a little salty about a 2 for 1 but this is a great deal. Awesome job by the App ADs office to get this done.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Anytime a P5 announces a three game series with a G5 they simply announce it as a two for one with no details. The details are that there are millions going to the G5 for the third game. The details on the recent home and home home announcement for Coastal isn't one game at Coastal for two free games. Coastal is probably getting a million or more for that third game. The GaSo folks routinely and mistakenly dismiss that Coastal is already out scheduling them by rationalizing that they can't do a three game series because they need two annual bank/money games. This simply is not true. If GaSo scheduled a three game series with Tech, then they would get a million or more for that third game. ASt, Troy and GaSt have all also done awesome at scheduling recently. U of Ark sucks that they are too chicken to play AState.

(02-12-2017 12:56 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:39 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 10:49 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I can think of a reason: They flat out say - No chance. We are very familiar with this reason.

Lol, always constructive.

It isn't as simple as "well we got A so we should definitely get B because A and B are similar".

Every school is unique because every AD has their own scheduling concerns - budget, home v away balance, future scheduling availability, personal and fan base bias, etc.

This App/UNC series is reportedly a H&H plus a 3rd money game (presumably in Chapel Hill). I would've been a little salty about a 2 for 1 but this is a great deal. Awesome job by the App ADs office to get this done.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Anytime a P5 announces a three game series with a G5 they simply announce it as a two for one with no details. The details are that there are millions going to the G5 for the third game. The details on the recent home and home home announcement for Coastal isn't one game at Coastal for two free games. Coastal is probably getting a million or more for that third game. The GaSo folks routinely and mistakenly dismiss that Coastal is already out scheduling them by rationalizing that they can't do a three game series because they need two annual bank/money games. This simply is not true. If GaSo scheduled a three game series with Tech, then they would get a million or more for that third game. ASt, Troy and GaSt have all also done awesome at scheduling recently. U of Ark sucks that they are too chicken to play AState.

I'm not sure that is correct in all 2 for 1 deals. Either way, I'd take a 2 for 1 with UGA (never going to happen) or Ga Tech no matter what the 3rd game paid.

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(02-12-2017 12:32 PM)Appdoggy Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 12:19 PM)moehler Wrote:  shocked if we get a h/h with the Heels, Carolina has always had a policy of not playing in state teams not from the ACC, it took 20 years and the State government getting involved to get the Heels to travel to ECU. If it happens, man that wonderful, but something had to happen behind the scenes to get them to change their attitude, curious to know what it is. Anyway, our AD and his staff strike again, man, this guy really knows what he is doing.

Besides us in very recent history, ECU has been the only non-ACC FBS school in the State so there isn't much of a sample size there. It took all the ACC schools, especially NCSU and UNC, awhile to play ECU, but for the past decade one of those two have been playing them every year. UNC has actually come to Boone before in basketball, which is far more than NCSU has ever done. My guess is it will take more to get NCSU to Boone but UNC is the far superior athletic dept. so who cares.

If you look back at Carolina's football schedules, they rarely played even the FCS schools from the state, App, WCU and other schools, never got games, but they we're more than wiling to play JMU, Furman, or the Citadel. Atleast NC state had periodically played WCU and App in Raleigh, though probably not as much as they should have. Made me nuts thinking that money that should have been used to support other state schools was going to the likes of Furman.