Don't feel sorry for us. We feel sorry for ourselves when we miss the better teams in the league. We'll be moaning and crying when the 2018 schedule comes out and fans realize we don't play South Alabama.
And, this league is going to be strong enough to sustain everyone if you play well. I've already called it a four bid league. And, I honestly feel there could be a case made for a fifth.
That's the key. Every year, UTA has done one or the other every year. Our first year, we were sub .500 in OOC, but finished 2nd. Not that the conference is complaining, but one year we won three games against ranked teams, then finished 7th.
(01-19-2017 08:53 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: Don't feel sorry for us. We feel sorry for ourselves when we miss the better teams in the league. We'll be moaning and crying when the 2018 schedule comes out and fans realize we don't play South Alabama.
And, this league is going to be strong enough to sustain everyone if you play well. I've already called it a four bid league. And, I honestly feel there could be a case made for a fifth.
I know most of you don't get to hear Coach Robichaux speak very much so I thought I'd post a couple of conversations. The first if a interview that took place recently on the local radio station that covers Cajun sports. Coach Robichaux has also done a number of speaking engagements at coaches associations in the southern US. The second is a video, but goes to show how his priorities are defined.
I'll admit, this is less exciting than the previous two years' schedules. Some notable home games: West Virginia X2, Illinois X3, College of Charleston--as always, and that's really about it. We travel to Unc, Wake Forest, and Clemson.
In comparison, we hosted NC State, Ole Miss, Virginia, Ohio State, Duke, Cincinnati, Wake Forest, Illinois, and had a three game series at Georgia Tech last year. It's hard to top a schedule like that, but nonetheless it makes this year's schedule a little underwhelming. Of course, our conference play will more than make up for OOC. Beating teams from the Sun Belt will be much more enjoyable than teams like Presbyterian, Longwood (giggity), and Charleston Southern
Fun fact: I don't know if any CCU fans posted this in the past, but South Carolina dropped us from their schedule because one of their boosters demanded it. They're paranoid about losing fans/recruits to us. Imagine us winning a natty and then wiping the floor with them the next year.
(01-29-2017 12:09 PM)CCUstudent Wrote: Fun fact: I don't know if any CCU fans posted this in the past, but South Carolina dropped us from their schedule because one of their boosters demanded it. They're paranoid about losing fans/recruits to us. Imagine us winning a natty and then wiping the floor with them the next year.
I'll admit, this is less exciting than the previous two years' schedules. Some notable home games: West Virginia X2, Illinois X3, College of Charleston--as always, and that's really about it. We travel to Unc, Wake Forest, and Clemson.
In comparison, we hosted NC State, Ole Miss, Virginia, Ohio State, Duke, Cincinnati, Wake Forest, Illinois, and had a three game series at Georgia Tech last year. It's hard to top a schedule like that, but nonetheless it makes this year's schedule a little underwhelming. Of course, our conference play will more than make up for OOC. Beating teams from the Sun Belt will be much more enjoyable than teams like Presbyterian, Longwood (giggity), and Charleston Southern
Fun fact: I don't know if any CCU fans posted this in the past, but South Carolina dropped us from their schedule because one of their boosters demanded it. They're paranoid about losing fans/recruits to us. Imagine us winning a natty and then wiping the floor with them the next year.
It's also worth noting, now that you guys are playing an SBC schedule, you probably don't have to schedule as crazy as you did last year in OOC play to make the tournament.
I'll admit, this is less exciting than the previous two years' schedules. Some notable home games: West Virginia X2, Illinois X3, College of Charleston--as always, and that's really about it. We travel to Unc, Wake Forest, and Clemson.
In comparison, we hosted NC State, Ole Miss, Virginia, Ohio State, Duke, Cincinnati, Wake Forest, Illinois, and had a three game series at Georgia Tech last year. It's hard to top a schedule like that, but nonetheless it makes this year's schedule a little underwhelming. Of course, our conference play will more than make up for OOC. Beating teams from the Sun Belt will be much more enjoyable than teams like Presbyterian, Longwood (giggity), and Charleston Southern
Fun fact: I don't know if any CCU fans posted this in the past, but South Carolina dropped us from their schedule because one of their boosters demanded it. They're paranoid about losing fans/recruits to us. Imagine us winning a natty and then wiping the floor with them the next year.
It's also worth noting, now that you guys are playing an SBC schedule, you probably don't have to schedule as crazy as you did last year in OOC play to make the tournament.
While the SBC is better than the Big South it is not night and day. We will still have to schedule the best programs we can in out of conference play. So while it might be harder to schedule some of those P5 schools we are so going to have to try to do the best we can to get them on our schedule in addition to the best mid-major programs in our region.
(This post was last modified: 01-30-2017 07:45 AM by rokamortis.)
I'll admit, this is less exciting than the previous two years' schedules. Some notable home games: West Virginia X2, Illinois X3, College of Charleston--as always, and that's really about it. We travel to Unc, Wake Forest, and Clemson.
In comparison, we hosted NC State, Ole Miss, Virginia, Ohio State, Duke, Cincinnati, Wake Forest, Illinois, and had a three game series at Georgia Tech last year. It's hard to top a schedule like that, but nonetheless it makes this year's schedule a little underwhelming. Of course, our conference play will more than make up for OOC. Beating teams from the Sun Belt will be much more enjoyable than teams like Presbyterian, Longwood (giggity), and Charleston Southern
Fun fact: I don't know if any CCU fans posted this in the past, but South Carolina dropped us from their schedule because one of their boosters demanded it. They're paranoid about losing fans/recruits to us. Imagine us winning a natty and then wiping the floor with them the next year.
It's also worth noting, now that you guys are playing an SBC schedule, you probably don't have to schedule as crazy as you did last year in OOC play to make the tournament.
While the SBC is better than the Big South it is not night and day. We will still have to schedule the best programs we can in out of conference play. So while it might be harder to schedule some of those P5 schools we are so going to have to try to do the best we can to get them on our schedule in addition to the best mid-major programs in our region.
Sun Belt had eight teams in the top half compared to three for the Big South. Five in the top 100 compared to one. Average rank was 123 compared to 162, almost 40 slots better. Conference rank was 10th versus 17.
And the kicker, most people think 2016 was an under-performing year. Seems to me, that was the Big South's yearly output. This year, even if everything stays the same, the SBC will jump magnitudes just by CCU's addition, as it will raises everyone's.
I'll admit, this is less exciting than the previous two years' schedules. Some notable home games: West Virginia X2, Illinois X3, College of Charleston--as always, and that's really about it. We travel to Unc, Wake Forest, and Clemson.
In comparison, we hosted NC State, Ole Miss, Virginia, Ohio State, Duke, Cincinnati, Wake Forest, Illinois, and had a three game series at Georgia Tech last year. It's hard to top a schedule like that, but nonetheless it makes this year's schedule a little underwhelming. Of course, our conference play will more than make up for OOC. Beating teams from the Sun Belt will be much more enjoyable than teams like Presbyterian, Longwood (giggity), and Charleston Southern
Fun fact: I don't know if any CCU fans posted this in the past, but South Carolina dropped us from their schedule because one of their boosters demanded it. They're paranoid about losing fans/recruits to us. Imagine us winning a natty and then wiping the floor with them the next year.
It's also worth noting, now that you guys are playing an SBC schedule, you probably don't have to schedule as crazy as you did last year in OOC play to make the tournament.
While the SBC is better than the Big South it is not night and day. We will still have to schedule the best programs we can in out of conference play. So while it might be harder to schedule some of those P5 schools we are so going to have to try to do the best we can to get them on our schedule in addition to the best mid-major programs in our region.
Sun Belt had eight teams in the top half compared to three for the Big South. Five in the top 100 compared to one. Average rank was 123 compared to 162, almost 40 slots better. Conference rank was 10th versus 17.
And the kicker, most people think 2016 was an under-performing year. Seems to me, that was the Big South's yearly output. This year, even if everything stays the same, the SBC will jump magnitudes just by CCU's addition, as it will raises everyone's.
SO yea, it does seem night and day to me.
When the 2nd place team from the Big South drops to 6th in the Sun Belt and the 4th and 5th teams are 10th and 11th I'd say its pretty obvious the Sun Belt is a big step up. Coastal is still going to be a top team, but the weekly grind got much harder.
I'll admit, this is less exciting than the previous two years' schedules. Some notable home games: West Virginia X2, Illinois X3, College of Charleston--as always, and that's really about it. We travel to Unc, Wake Forest, and Clemson.
In comparison, we hosted NC State, Ole Miss, Virginia, Ohio State, Duke, Cincinnati, Wake Forest, Illinois, and had a three game series at Georgia Tech last year. It's hard to top a schedule like that, but nonetheless it makes this year's schedule a little underwhelming. Of course, our conference play will more than make up for OOC. Beating teams from the Sun Belt will be much more enjoyable than teams like Presbyterian, Longwood (giggity), and Charleston Southern
Fun fact: I don't know if any CCU fans posted this in the past, but South Carolina dropped us from their schedule because one of their boosters demanded it. They're paranoid about losing fans/recruits to us. Imagine us winning a natty and then wiping the floor with them the next year.
It's also worth noting, now that you guys are playing an SBC schedule, you probably don't have to schedule as crazy as you did last year in OOC play to make the tournament.
While the SBC is better than the Big South it is not night and day. We will still have to schedule the best programs we can in out of conference play. So while it might be harder to schedule some of those P5 schools we are so going to have to try to do the best we can to get them on our schedule in addition to the best mid-major programs in our region.
Sun Belt had eight teams in the top half compared to three for the Big South. Five in the top 100 compared to one. Average rank was 123 compared to 162, almost 40 slots better. Conference rank was 10th versus 17.
And the kicker, most people think 2016 was an under-performing year. Seems to me, that was the Big South's yearly output. This year, even if everything stays the same, the SBC will jump magnitudes just by CCU's addition, as it will raises everyone's.
SO yea, it does seem night and day to me.
That was one year. Do your analysis for 2015 when the Big South was a top ten league and the Sun Belt wasn't. Like I said, it isn't a night and day difference.
I do agree that by adding Coastal that the differences between the two become much greater. But it isn't like the SBC is the ACC, we still have to schedule a strong out of conference schedule and do well.
I'll admit, this is less exciting than the previous two years' schedules. Some notable home games: West Virginia X2, Illinois X3, College of Charleston--as always, and that's really about it. We travel to Unc, Wake Forest, and Clemson.
In comparison, we hosted NC State, Ole Miss, Virginia, Ohio State, Duke, Cincinnati, Wake Forest, Illinois, and had a three game series at Georgia Tech last year. It's hard to top a schedule like that, but nonetheless it makes this year's schedule a little underwhelming. Of course, our conference play will more than make up for OOC. Beating teams from the Sun Belt will be much more enjoyable than teams like Presbyterian, Longwood (giggity), and Charleston Southern
Fun fact: I don't know if any CCU fans posted this in the past, but South Carolina dropped us from their schedule because one of their boosters demanded it. They're paranoid about losing fans/recruits to us. Imagine us winning a natty and then wiping the floor with them the next year.
It's also worth noting, now that you guys are playing an SBC schedule, you probably don't have to schedule as crazy as you did last year in OOC play to make the tournament.
While the SBC is better than the Big South it is not night and day. We will still have to schedule the best programs we can in out of conference play. So while it might be harder to schedule some of those P5 schools we are so going to have to try to do the best we can to get them on our schedule in addition to the best mid-major programs in our region.
Sun Belt had eight teams in the top half compared to three for the Big South. Five in the top 100 compared to one. Average rank was 123 compared to 162, almost 40 slots better. Conference rank was 10th versus 17.
And the kicker, most people think 2016 was an under-performing year. Seems to me, that was the Big South's yearly output. This year, even if everything stays the same, the SBC will jump magnitudes just by CCU's addition, as it will raises everyone's.
SO yea, it does seem night and day to me.
That was one year. Do your analysis for 2015 when the Big South was a top ten league and the Sun Belt wasn't. Like I said, it isn't a night and day difference.
I do agree that by adding Coastal that the differences between the two become much greater. But it isn't like the SBC is the ACC, we still have to schedule a strong out of conference schedule and do well.
In the RPI world, you always have to look at your RPI. The Cajuns are lucky that there are a number of state schools as well as out of state teams that are driving distance so we can usually maximize our RPI numbers.
As to the conference RPI's, I only found back to 2012.
(01-29-2017 08:34 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: It's also worth noting, now that you guys are playing an SBC schedule, you probably don't have to schedule as crazy as you did last year in OOC play to make the tournament.
While the SBC is better than the Big South it is not night and day. We will still have to schedule the best programs we can in out of conference play. So while it might be harder to schedule some of those P5 schools we are so going to have to try to do the best we can to get them on our schedule in addition to the best mid-major programs in our region.
Sun Belt had eight teams in the top half compared to three for the Big South. Five in the top 100 compared to one. Average rank was 123 compared to 162, almost 40 slots better. Conference rank was 10th versus 17.
And the kicker, most people think 2016 was an under-performing year. Seems to me, that was the Big South's yearly output. This year, even if everything stays the same, the SBC will jump magnitudes just by CCU's addition, as it will raises everyone's.
SO yea, it does seem night and day to me.
That was one year. Do your analysis for 2015 when the Big South was a top ten league and the Sun Belt wasn't. Like I said, it isn't a night and day difference.
I do agree that by adding Coastal that the differences between the two become much greater. But it isn't like the SBC is the ACC, we still have to schedule a strong out of conference schedule and do well.
In the RPI world, you always have to look at your RPI. The Cajuns are lucky that there are a number of state schools as well as out of state teams that are driving distance so we can usually maximize our RPI numbers.
As to the conference RPI's, I only found back to 2012.
Coastal is a great add for Baseball but the Sun Belt is a better league no matter what the RPI says. Looking at it from the perspective of any other Big South team Coastal, GS, Troy, USA, ULL, Texas St and UTA would be a gauntlet for most teams each year.
(01-29-2017 08:34 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: It's also worth noting, now that you guys are playing an SBC schedule, you probably don't have to schedule as crazy as you did last year in OOC play to make the tournament.
While the SBC is better than the Big South it is not night and day. We will still have to schedule the best programs we can in out of conference play. So while it might be harder to schedule some of those P5 schools we are so going to have to try to do the best we can to get them on our schedule in addition to the best mid-major programs in our region.
Sun Belt had eight teams in the top half compared to three for the Big South. Five in the top 100 compared to one. Average rank was 123 compared to 162, almost 40 slots better. Conference rank was 10th versus 17.
And the kicker, most people think 2016 was an under-performing year. Seems to me, that was the Big South's yearly output. This year, even if everything stays the same, the SBC will jump magnitudes just by CCU's addition, as it will raises everyone's.
SO yea, it does seem night and day to me.
That was one year. Do your analysis for 2015 when the Big South was a top ten league and the Sun Belt wasn't. Like I said, it isn't a night and day difference.
I do agree that by adding Coastal that the differences between the two become much greater. But it isn't like the SBC is the ACC, we still have to schedule a strong out of conference schedule and do well.
In the RPI world, you always have to look at your RPI. The Cajuns are lucky that there are a number of state schools as well as out of state teams that are driving distance so we can usually maximize our RPI numbers.
As to the conference RPI's, I only found back to 2012.
(01-30-2017 07:40 AM)rokamortis Wrote: While the SBC is better than the Big South it is not night and day. We will still have to schedule the best programs we can in out of conference play. So while it might be harder to schedule some of those P5 schools we are so going to have to try to do the best we can to get them on our schedule in addition to the best mid-major programs in our region.
Sun Belt had eight teams in the top half compared to three for the Big South. Five in the top 100 compared to one. Average rank was 123 compared to 162, almost 40 slots better. Conference rank was 10th versus 17.
And the kicker, most people think 2016 was an under-performing year. Seems to me, that was the Big South's yearly output. This year, even if everything stays the same, the SBC will jump magnitudes just by CCU's addition, as it will raises everyone's.
SO yea, it does seem night and day to me.
That was one year. Do your analysis for 2015 when the Big South was a top ten league and the Sun Belt wasn't. Like I said, it isn't a night and day difference.
I do agree that by adding Coastal that the differences between the two become much greater. But it isn't like the SBC is the ACC, we still have to schedule a strong out of conference schedule and do well.
In the RPI world, you always have to look at your RPI. The Cajuns are lucky that there are a number of state schools as well as out of state teams that are driving distance so we can usually maximize our RPI numbers.
As to the conference RPI's, I only found back to 2012.
I had previously found these conference RPI's (taken from Boyd's World when NCAA was not easily retrievable)
2016:
10 - SBC
17 - BSC
2015:
10 - BSC
13 - SBC
2014:
11 - SBC
19 - BSC
2013:
5 - SBC
14 - BSC
2012:
16 - SBC
17 - BSC
2011:
7 - SBC
16 - BSC
2010:
6 - SBC
14 - BSC
2009:
8 - SBC
19 - BSC
2008:
10 - SBC
16 - BSC
2007:
7 - SBC
13 - BSC
2006:
7 - SBC
15 - BSC
2005:
13 - BSC
16 - SBC
2004:
8 - SBC
13 - BSC
2003:
5 - SBC
15 - BSC
2002:
6 - SBC
15 - BSC
2001:
7 - SBC
15 - BSC
2000:
6 - SBC
12 - BSC
1999:
10 - SBC
15 - BSC
1998:
8 - SBC
19 - BSC
1997:
4 - SBC
17 - BSC
Average conference RPI over the last 20 years:
8.50 - Sun Belt
15.2 - Big South
Sun Belt was better 18 of 20 times.
How many of those better teams in the SBC have moved to other conferences? I think it's more relevemt to compare against the current lineups much as possible. Again, I'm saying the Sun Belt is a better league it just isn't going to make it so we can stop scheduling a tough OOC schedule.
(This post was last modified: 01-30-2017 09:57 PM by rokamortis.)
Sun Belt had eight teams in the top half compared to three for the Big South. Five in the top 100 compared to one. Average rank was 123 compared to 162, almost 40 slots better. Conference rank was 10th versus 17.
And the kicker, most people think 2016 was an under-performing year. Seems to me, that was the Big South's yearly output. This year, even if everything stays the same, the SBC will jump magnitudes just by CCU's addition, as it will raises everyone's.
SO yea, it does seem night and day to me.
That was one year. Do your analysis for 2015 when the Big South was a top ten league and the Sun Belt wasn't. Like I said, it isn't a night and day difference.
I do agree that by adding Coastal that the differences between the two become much greater. But it isn't like the SBC is the ACC, we still have to schedule a strong out of conference schedule and do well.
In the RPI world, you always have to look at your RPI. The Cajuns are lucky that there are a number of state schools as well as out of state teams that are driving distance so we can usually maximize our RPI numbers.
As to the conference RPI's, I only found back to 2012.
I had previously found these conference RPI's (taken from Boyd's World when NCAA was not easily retrievable)
2016:
10 - SBC
17 - BSC
2015:
10 - BSC
13 - SBC
2014:
11 - SBC
19 - BSC
2013:
5 - SBC
14 - BSC
2012:
16 - SBC
17 - BSC
2011:
7 - SBC
16 - BSC
2010:
6 - SBC
14 - BSC
2009:
8 - SBC
19 - BSC
2008:
10 - SBC
16 - BSC
2007:
7 - SBC
13 - BSC
2006:
7 - SBC
15 - BSC
2005:
13 - BSC
16 - SBC
2004:
8 - SBC
13 - BSC
2003:
5 - SBC
15 - BSC
2002:
6 - SBC
15 - BSC
2001:
7 - SBC
15 - BSC
2000:
6 - SBC
12 - BSC
1999:
10 - SBC
15 - BSC
1998:
8 - SBC
19 - BSC
1997:
4 - SBC
17 - BSC
Average conference RPI over the last 20 years:
8.50 - Sun Belt
15.2 - Big South
Sun Belt was better 18 of 20 times.
How many of those better teams in the SBC have moved to other conferences? I think it's more relevemt to compare against the current lineups much as possible. Again, I'm saying the Sun Belt is a better league it just isn't going to make it so we can stop scheduling a tough OOC schedule.
We lost FIU and FAU, which were always reliable for a good RPI.
WKU and MTSU were never baseball powers, but sometimes had decent teams.
UNT doesn't have baseball.
We add Coastal.
What's your point? Adding Coastal gets us back to where we want to be.
