I figured I'd start this thread just as a "look-see".

Two big games tonight that could boost NU's RPI.

Oakland @ Valparaiso on ESPN2 at 9pm. Oakland has a #100 RPI.

Kent State @ Ohio on ESPNU at 9pm. KSU has a #205 RPI. Need them to get into the 100's.

Would be nice to see those as wins.

According to RPI Forecast, the effect on our RPI our OOC opponents have are weighted in this order:

Boston University
Stony Brook
Vermont
Maine
Harvard
LIU Brooklyn
Cornell
Connecticut
Michigan St.
Oakland
Kent St.

So from a purely statistical RPI standpoint, a bu win is much more valuable to us than the others since we played them twice, and after that it goes in that order. Of course, if we make the tourney, the selection committee are going to be looking at where our opponents fall in RPI, and big wins, so Michigan St doing well would be really good for us, and the others moving into different RPI slots (like from 200's to 100's in the example from OP).

However, we aren't going to get an at-large bid (unless we go 18-0 in conference and lose in CAA tourney). So this is all for seeding if we do win down in Charleston, and pride of course.

(01-06-2017 12:40 PM)SomebodyToLove Wrote:  Would be nice to see those as wins.

According to RPI Forecast, the effect on our RPI our OOC opponents have are weighted in this order:

Boston University
Stony Brook
Vermont
Maine
Harvard
LIU Brooklyn
Cornell
Connecticut
Michigan St.
Oakland
Kent St.

So from a purely statistical RPI standpoint, a bu win is much more valuable to us than the others since we played them twice, and after that it goes in that order. Of course, if we make the tourney, the selection committee are going to be looking at where our opponents fall in RPI, and big wins, so Michigan St doing well would be really good for us, and the others moving into different RPI slots (like from 200's to 100's in the example from OP).

However, we aren't going to get an at-large bid (unless we go 18-0 in conference and lose in CAA tourney). So this is all for seeding if we do win down in Charleston, and pride of course.

No one is going 18-0 in any conference. It's not possible and hasn't happened.

16-2 or 15-3 is doable as long as your losses are to top 4 teams and you lose in the final.

(01-06-2017 04:18 PM)geewizNU Wrote:  No one is going 18-0 in any conference. It's not possible and hasn't happened.

18-0 (or other undefeated) D-I teams in conference play since 2010:

* Kentucky (2014-15): 18-0 in SEC
* Wichita State (2013-14): 18-0 in Missouri Valley
* Florida (2013-14): 18-0 in SEC
* Stephen F. Austin (2013-14): 16-0 in Southland
* Gonzaga (2012-13): 16-0 in WCC
* Kentucky (2011-12): 16-0 in SEC
* Butler (2009-10): 18-0 in Horizon League

(01-06-2017 04:18 PM)geewizNU Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:40 PM)SomebodyToLove Wrote:  Would be nice to see those as wins.

According to RPI Forecast, the effect on our RPI our OOC opponents have are weighted in this order:

Boston University
Stony Brook
Vermont
Maine
Harvard
LIU Brooklyn
Cornell
Connecticut
Michigan St.
Oakland
Kent St.

So from a purely statistical RPI standpoint, a bu win is much more valuable to us than the others since we played them twice, and after that it goes in that order. Of course, if we make the tourney, the selection committee are going to be looking at where our opponents fall in RPI, and big wins, so Michigan St doing well would be really good for us, and the others moving into different RPI slots (like from 200's to 100's in the example from OP).

However, we aren't going to get an at-large bid (unless we go 18-0 in conference and lose in CAA tourney). So this is all for seeding if we do win down in Charleston, and pride of course.

No one is going 18-0 in any conference. It's not possible and hasn't happened.

16-2 or 15-3 is doable as long as your losses are to top 4 teams and you lose in the final.

We finish 25-8 (16-2) with a 41 RPI and losses to Cornell, LIU, Harvard, Stony Brook, and bu we arent getting in.

We go 26-7, with a 36 RPI and the same losses, and we still probably aren't getting in. I've seen way worse snubs. Drexel was 27-6 winning 19 of 20 late and didn't get in. There have been teams in the 20's in RPI not to make it with bad losses. We have bad losses.

(01-06-2017 04:59 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 04:18 PM)geewizNU Wrote:  No one is going 18-0 in any conference. It's not possible and hasn't happened.

18-0 (or other undefeated) D-I teams in conference play since 2010:

* Kentucky (2014-15): 18-0 in SEC
* Wichita State (2013-14): 18-0 in Missouri Valley
* Florida (2013-14): 18-0 in SEC
* Stephen F. Austin (2013-14): 16-0 in Southland
* Gonzaga (2012-13): 16-0 in WCC
* Kentucky (2011-12): 16-0 in SEC
* Butler (2009-10): 18-0 in Horizon League

Those are just a handful on instances.
It's never happened in the CAA.

(01-06-2017 08:16 PM)geewizNU Wrote:  Those are just a handful on instances.
It's never happened in the CAA.

Correct. But saying "it's not possible" to go 18-0 was what I was speaking to.

Down goes Michigan st vs. The mighty Nittany Lions

UConn, who REALLY needed a win, beat league leading UCF (12-4, 3-1) 64-49. UConn was teetering on entering the +200 RPI's.

Oakland barely beat UIC.

Vermont beat Hartford.

Stony Brook (another +200 RPI) beat Albany.

BU behind 18 3's, beat Lafayette.

(01-07-2017 01:39 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 08:16 PM)geewizNU Wrote:  Those are just a handful on instances.
It's never happened in the CAA.

Correct. But saying "it's not possible" to go 18-0 was what I was speaking to.

Kenpom gives you a 2.8% chance at 18-0!
http://kenpom.com/blog/candidates-for-co...erfection/

(01-09-2017 07:45 PM)SomebodyToLove Wrote:  

(01-07-2017 01:39 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 08:16 PM)geewizNU Wrote:  Those are just a handful on instances.
It's never happened in the CAA.

Correct. But saying "it's not possible" to go 18-0 was what I was speaking to.

Kenpom gives you a 2.8% chance at 18-0!
http://kenpom.com/blog/candidates-for-co...erfection/

All 5 of our OOC opponents won tonight. Good for our RPI (and the whole CAA in a 2nd degree)

boston univeristy
UConn
Michigan St (as geewiz noted they are tops in the BigTen now!)
Maine
Vermont

Our RPI went up to 71 from 83 according to Live RPI Forecast (seems like a lot?)

Our Pomeroy ranking went from 95 to 90 tonight.

Benchmark for Pomeroy: Matt Janning's senior year we were ranked #71 in the Pomeroy (At large talks for us until we crashed and burned in February). The season prior to that we were #95. We've never been in the top 100 other than that, even our tournament season 2 years ago (#117).

And if you lose to Drexel tonight that will really put a damper on trying to finish in the top 100 of pomeroy