Looks good.

I wish we could at least get a rendering of update home side / south stands at GS. I would probably fire up the box buyers and have something for recruits to look at.

Look for a capital campaign to kickoff in early 2017 based on some discussions at the Avaitor Bar last weekend.

(12-22-2016 10:05 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  I love it. I'm not a big proponent of expanding our seating significantly. Maybe a couple more permanent seats, but ultimately we are not going to draw more than 35,000 to Boone unless we get ECU or a Tobacco Road school up there.

I would MUCH rather us just focus on improving the current facility, like above.

It would be nice to at least replace the temporary seats we always put in with permanent seats

(12-22-2016 01:55 PM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 10:05 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  I love it. I'm not a big proponent of expanding our seating significantly. Maybe a couple more permanent seats, but ultimately we are not going to draw more than 35,000 to Boone unless we get ECU or a Tobacco Road school up there.

I would MUCH rather us just focus on improving the current facility, like above.

It would be nice to at least replace the temporary seats we always put in with permanent seats

Also, App could've drawn more than 35,000 for Miami however there was a cutoff limit for attendance. I expect Wake Forest will see a similar crowd next season. It would be great if App could get this project completed and still manage to get an ACC school up to Boone for a better showcase on ESPN.

looking at the infrastructure of Boone, road system, restaurants, hotels, I cant imagine the town could handle more than 35,000 on any given weekend, though having the 4 lane highway from Hickory to Blowing Rock really helps, it is much easier to enter/leave Boone than in previous years. Personally, I would like us in this next building phase to get to 30,000, with plans, if needed to expand to 35,000. Saint I hope your right about a capital campaign kickoff in 2017, get the campaign started, raise the capital, hit your goals then start building in 2019 or 2020. Hate to throw a wet blanket on this, as exciting as this is, we still haven't eliminated our big problem, that is, what to do with the dam track.

(12-22-2016 01:08 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 01:05 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 12:57 PM)moehler Wrote:  I don't know about that, if Sofield and the University are making this public, then at the very least they believe there is a good chance this will happen sooner rather than later, If they get the details worked out I would guess probably in the next 3 or 4 years, but, I do see your point, I keep thinking back to ODU and that brand new 35,000 seat stadium they we're going to build on the river 4 or 5 years ago, fast forward to the present, the river stadium has been scraped, they are now going to renovate the current stadium with maximum seating of 22,000, and at a fraction of what they intended to spend, things change from original intentions, all we can do is hope this gets done.

Sounds like ODU has come down to earth after a few years of actual play. I'm not formality with the detail of the original pan, but it sounds like their needs are more in line with their current plan, obviously. Smart decision on their behalf. This north end zone plan will also facilitate Apps current needs, and is not based on speculation, like ODU's original stadium plan.

This is very early in the project management process and is subject to extreme changes. This is but one rendering likely pitched to the school. At this stage, you are throwing poo at the wall and seeing what sticks. As amazing as that rendering is, there is no way the funds are in place, private or public, to even discuss it being a reality.

This is more in line with Soefield reaching out to the University and not vice versa.

Eric, this was the original concept thrown out several years ago. At that time it matched what you are describing, but all indications are this is much closer to a final plan. I've heard this exact plan being discussed of over a year now. I believe Gillin said the mast plan for athletic facilities would be released after New Years.

(12-22-2016 03:15 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 01:08 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 01:05 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 12:57 PM)moehler Wrote:  I don't know about that, if Sofield and the University are making this public, then at the very least they believe there is a good chance this will happen sooner rather than later, If they get the details worked out I would guess probably in the next 3 or 4 years, but, I do see your point, I keep thinking back to ODU and that brand new 35,000 seat stadium they we're going to build on the river 4 or 5 years ago, fast forward to the present, the river stadium has been scraped, they are now going to renovate the current stadium with maximum seating of 22,000, and at a fraction of what they intended to spend, things change from original intentions, all we can do is hope this gets done.

Sounds like ODU has come down to earth after a few years of actual play. I'm not formality with the detail of the original pan, but it sounds like their needs are more in line with their current plan, obviously. Smart decision on their behalf. This north end zone plan will also facilitate Apps current needs, and is not based on speculation, like ODU's original stadium plan.

This is very early in the project management process and is subject to extreme changes. This is but one rendering likely pitched to the school. At this stage, you are throwing poo at the wall and seeing what sticks. As amazing as that rendering is, there is no way the funds are in place, private or public, to even discuss it being a reality.

This is more in line with Soefield reaching out to the University and not vice versa.

Eric, this was the original concept thrown out several years ago. At that time it matched what you are describing, but all indications are this is much closer to a final plan. I've heard this exact plan being discussed of over a year now. I believe Gillin said the mast plan for athletic facilities would be released after New Years.

Agreed. This was thrown together by Cobb and Co. It was the first step in the right direction.

Ericsaid, this represents the poo throwing stage you were referring to. This was a pitch.

This is going to be a reality. DG has been meeting with architects and funding partners for the past six months. I am amazed how someone who doesn't give a dime to App thinks they have all the answers.

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(12-22-2016 02:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  looking at the infrastructure of Boone, road system, restaurants, hotels, I cant imagine the town could handle more than 35,000 on any given weekend, though having the 4 lane highway from Hickory to Blowing Rock really helps, it is much easier to enter/leave Boone than in previous years. Personally, I would like us in this next building phase to get to 30,000, with plans, if needed to expand to 35,000. Saint I hope your right about a capital campaign kickoff in 2017, get the campaign started, raise the capital, hit your goals then start building in 2019 or 2020. Hate to throw a wet blanket on this, as exciting as this is, we still haven't eliminated our big problem, that is, what to do with the dam track.

Clemson handles 90,000 every home Saturday, and I'm pretty sure there was one road in, and one road out when we were there.

(12-22-2016 11:59 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  In looking at that pic above.....is the stadium on the left?
I can't see where it's fitting. Looks great though.

To answer your question, that little sliver of white visible on the left edge of that rendering is the top corner of the west stands.

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(12-22-2016 06:07 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 02:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  looking at the infrastructure of Boone, road system, restaurants, hotels, I cant imagine the town could handle more than 35,000 on any given weekend, though having the 4 lane highway from Hickory to Blowing Rock really helps, it is much easier to enter/leave Boone than in previous years. Personally, I would like us in this next building phase to get to 30,000, with plans, if needed to expand to 35,000. Saint I hope your right about a capital campaign kickoff in 2017, get the campaign started, raise the capital, hit your goals then start building in 2019 or 2020. Hate to throw a wet blanket on this, as exciting as this is, we still haven't eliminated our big problem, that is, what to do with the dam track.

Clemson handles 90,000 every home Saturday, and I'm pretty sure there was one road in, and one road out when we were there.

I have no doubt that the university and town got a lot of valuable data and experience that miami weekend. Next year it should run smoother for Wake. Every time they'll get a little bit better. Clemson has been handling 85,000 fans for over 20 years....and believe me, it's still a sh*t show getting out of there.

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(12-22-2016 06:35 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 06:07 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 02:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  looking at the infrastructure of Boone, road system, restaurants, hotels, I cant imagine the town could handle more than 35,000 on any given weekend, though having the 4 lane highway from Hickory to Blowing Rock really helps, it is much easier to enter/leave Boone than in previous years. Personally, I would like us in this next building phase to get to 30,000, with plans, if needed to expand to 35,000. Saint I hope your right about a capital campaign kickoff in 2017, get the campaign started, raise the capital, hit your goals then start building in 2019 or 2020. Hate to throw a wet blanket on this, as exciting as this is, we still haven't eliminated our big problem, that is, what to do with the dam track.

Clemson handles 90,000 every home Saturday, and I'm pretty sure there was one road in, and one road out when we were there.

I have no doubt that the university and town got a lot of valuable data and experience that miami weekend. Next year it should run smoother for Wake. Every time they'll get a little bit better. Clemson has been handling 85,000 fans for over 20 years....and believe me, it's still a sh*t show getting out of there.

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I may be the exception to the rule, but I would like to see 28-30,000 seats with an area of seating in the south endzone under the new scoreboard and a bank like Colorado's.

(12-22-2016 06:07 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 02:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  looking at the infrastructure of Boone, road system, restaurants, hotels, I cant imagine the town could handle more than 35,000 on any given weekend, though having the 4 lane highway from Hickory to Blowing Rock really helps, it is much easier to enter/leave Boone than in previous years. Personally, I would like us in this next building phase to get to 30,000, with plans, if needed to expand to 35,000. Saint I hope your right about a capital campaign kickoff in 2017, get the campaign started, raise the capital, hit your goals then start building in 2019 or 2020. Hate to throw a wet blanket on this, as exciting as this is, we still haven't eliminated our big problem, that is, what to do with the dam track.

Clemson handles 90,000 every home Saturday, and I'm pretty sure there was one road in, and one road out when we were there.

I second that, I went to the UNC and Duke football game this year, It took an hour and a half to get in and parked and the same amount of time to leave for just 40 thousand, I have never had that much difficulty at APP.

(12-22-2016 06:07 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 02:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  looking at the infrastructure of Boone, road system, restaurants, hotels, I cant imagine the town could handle more than 35,000 on any given weekend, though having the 4 lane highway from Hickory to Blowing Rock really helps, it is much easier to enter/leave Boone than in previous years. Personally, I would like us in this next building phase to get to 30,000, with plans, if needed to expand to 35,000. Saint I hope your right about a capital campaign kickoff in 2017, get the campaign started, raise the capital, hit your goals then start building in 2019 or 2020. Hate to throw a wet blanket on this, as exciting as this is, we still haven't eliminated our big problem, that is, what to do with the dam track.

Clemson handles 90,000 every home Saturday, and I'm pretty sure there was one road in, and one road out when we were there.

Yeah I've never bought that argument either. Same goes for half the SEC. The High Country infrastructure is suitable for any crowd we could realistically get to Kidd Brewer Stadium. See Miami Hurricanes 2016.

People make it sound like nobody goes to Boone except for football games, when we know that's not the case. We could fit 50,000 fans in town if need be.

(12-23-2016 11:08 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  People make it sound like nobody goes to Boone except for football games, when we know that's not the case. We could fit 50,000 fans in town if need be.

Yep. Fall leaves, Christmas tree farms, cool summer weekends, Floridian summer migration, Blowing Rock on any given weekend, etc. This whole argument that the area can't handle big football games is a head scratcher for me. Would it be congested, yes. But what good college town is not on Saturday's in the fall. Isn't that kind of the point?

(12-23-2016 11:02 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 06:07 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 02:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  looking at the infrastructure of Boone, road system, restaurants, hotels, I cant imagine the town could handle more than 35,000 on any given weekend, though having the 4 lane highway from Hickory to Blowing Rock really helps, it is much easier to enter/leave Boone than in previous years. Personally, I would like us in this next building phase to get to 30,000, with plans, if needed to expand to 35,000. Saint I hope your right about a capital campaign kickoff in 2017, get the campaign started, raise the capital, hit your goals then start building in 2019 or 2020. Hate to throw a wet blanket on this, as exciting as this is, we still haven't eliminated our big problem, that is, what to do with the dam track.

Clemson handles 90,000 every home Saturday, and I'm pretty sure there was one road in, and one road out when we were there.

Yeah I've never bought that argument either. Same goes for half the SEC. The High Country infrastructure is suitable for any crowd we could realistically get to Kidd Brewer Stadium. See Miami Hurricanes 2016.

The Miami traffic wasn't any worse than before. With 321 and 421 both 4 lane highways, Boone has the same infrastructure as most, much larger towns.

I swear about half the App fan's on this message board are stuck in the nostalgia of Boone being some tiny, quaint place no one has ever heard of with only single lane roads filing out in two directions.

(12-22-2016 02:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  looking at the infrastructure of Boone, road system, restaurants, hotels, I cant imagine the town could handle more than 35,000 on any given weekend, though having the 4 lane highway from Hickory to Blowing Rock really helps, it is much easier to enter/leave Boone than in previous years. Personally, I would like us in this next building phase to get to 30,000, with plans, if needed to expand to 35,000. Saint I hope your right about a capital campaign kickoff in 2017, get the campaign started, raise the capital, hit your goals then start building in 2019 or 2020. Hate to throw a wet blanket on this, as exciting as this is, we still haven't eliminated our big problem, that is, what to do with the dam track.

When I have been to games in Boone, I just stay in Wilkesboro. It's much cheaper and not too far away.

(12-23-2016 01:50 PM)PirateJim Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 02:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  looking at the infrastructure of Boone, road system, restaurants, hotels, I cant imagine the town could handle more than 35,000 on any given weekend, though having the 4 lane highway from Hickory to Blowing Rock really helps, it is much easier to enter/leave Boone than in previous years. Personally, I would like us in this next building phase to get to 30,000, with plans, if needed to expand to 35,000. Saint I hope your right about a capital campaign kickoff in 2017, get the campaign started, raise the capital, hit your goals then start building in 2019 or 2020. Hate to throw a wet blanket on this, as exciting as this is, we still haven't eliminated our big problem, that is, what to do with the dam track.

When I have been to games in Boone, I just stay in Wilkesboro. It's much cheaper and not too far away.

4 lane highway straight up 35 minutes and puts you right at the campus. I grew up in Lenoir and know that people stayed as far away as Hickory for the Miami game. If you aren't used to the mountains, that hour drive can actually be much more eventful than most.